December 12Dec 12 5 hours ago, closetojumping said: Well, it’s still early, so you can give it a little time. Not until reading this thread and this story did it even occur to me that “smear the queer” involved a slur. We certainly didn’t think of the guy with the ball as a gay dude when we played it. Exactly The one that actually makes more sense is that you yell peter on a short punt so nobody touches it. Nobody wants to touch a peter.
December 12Dec 12 5 minutes ago, Cruz in Aledo said: I don’t think so but I am in a bizarro world where posters here think homophobic is a good description of what Bijan said. The term (as it was used) is a homophobic pejorative. No one is saying that Bijan is. I'm not sure why that is so confusing. He apologized because of the accidental slight.
December 12Dec 12 4 minutes ago, Zeus said: Exactly The one that actually makes more sense is that you yell peter on a short punt so nobody touches it. Nobody wants to touch a peter. wasn't Peter a pumpkin eater?
December 12Dec 12 I like how two posters said they think Bijan is gay and y'all are still tied up in the "Smear the Queer" debate. This site is 1 of 1.
December 12Dec 12 1 minute ago, ztejas said: I like how two posters said they think Bijan is gay and y'all are still tied up in the "Smear the Queer" debate. This site is 1 of 1. or 1 on 1 . Amiright ?
December 12Dec 12 6 minutes ago, MontereyMX said: wasn't Peter a pumpkin eater? Yeah, and a piper. He was good at multitasking, as the pumpkins and pickled peppers could attest. Edited December 12Dec 12 by Armybrat
December 12Dec 12 I never thought of "smear the queer" as "slay the gay..." Is that what this is about? Look, we are dumb boys. "Tackle the man with the ball" just didn't flow off the tongue quite correctly. We apologize for not knowing we were making fun of gays... (if that is what this is about.) I should probably preemptively apologize again, because I'll probably say it again. I won't be on TV, so nobody will care, but I'm gonna go ahead and apologize. But still..... Y'all some hoes. Edited December 12Dec 12 by Slacks
December 12Dec 12 1 minute ago, Slacks said: I never thought of "smear the queer" as "slay the gay..." Is that what this is about? Look, we are dumb boys. "Tackle the man with the ball" just didn't flow off the tongue quite correctly. We apologize for not knowing we were making fun of gays... (if that is what this is about.) I should probably preemptively apologize again, because I'll probably say it again. I won't be on TV, so nobody will care, but I'm gonna go ahead and apologize. But still..... Y'all some hoes. hoes kill broes... sounds about right!
December 13Dec 13 Queer hasn't always meant gay it's always meant queer it's an actual word with a definition. Just because it was coopted by a group to self describe doesn't mean it's a slur in every context. No kidding. They took the damn rainbow too.
December 13Dec 13 43 minutes ago, Slacks said: I never thought of "smear the queer" as "slay the gay..." Is that what this is about? Look, we are dumb boys. "Tackle the man with the ball" just didn't flow off the tongue quite correctly. We apologize for not knowing we were making fun of gays... (if that is what this is about.) I should probably preemptively apologize again, because I'll probably say it again. I won't be on TV, so nobody will care, but I'm gonna go ahead and apologize. But still..... Y'all some hoes. Don't apologize as apparently you'll upset people. That is what this is about. People being mad that he apologized.
December 13Dec 13 It's just a silly name of a dumb game that rhymes and is catchy. But if you really think about it, wouldn't willfully participating in the "smearing" of the "queer" also be gay?Shit, it might be something they’re in to.
December 13Dec 13 We called it “kill the man with the ball”, but there were neighborhoods nearby that called it “smear the queer” and it had absolutely nothing to do with the sexual preferences of anyone anywhere.
December 13Dec 13 Just now, Harrison Stafford said: “kill the man with the ball” bunch of crackers, nothing rhymes there
December 13Dec 13 I'm not sure what the God stuff has to do with him maybe being gay. Plenty of gay Christians or gay guys that grew up Christian and didn't have a problem with it. Protestants especially don't really persecute the gays anymore. I've thought that he might be gay for awhile now, though. Wait, you think Bijan might be gay, or one of the posters above?
December 13Dec 13 16 minutes ago, MontereyMX said: bunch of crackers, nothing rhymes there In the mid 60’s, rap was something you did on a door to get the hell inside.
December 13Dec 13 Popular Post I'm queer. I played smear the queer. I don't recall knowing what it meant as a kid. Bijan goofed in saying it, but it was innocent and good on him for the quick apology. He's welcome to smear me as penance.
December 13Dec 13 Popular Post 1 hour ago, ztejas said: I like how two posters said they think Bijan is gay and y'all are still tied up in the "Smear the Queer" debate. This site is 1 of 1. This is very funny tbh. For my part, I have no opinion whether Bijan is gay or not. It’s possible I guess? To suggest he could be isn’t offensive to me. Posters saying he’s weak for apologizing for saying something that could be hurtful to a group of people? Fuck that. Edited December 13Dec 13 by UncleSonny
December 13Dec 13 45 minutes ago, UncleSonny said: This is very funny tbh. For my part, I have no opinion whether Bijan is gay or not. It’s possible I guess? To suggest he could be isn’t offensive to me. Posters saying he’s weak for apologizing for saying something that could be hurtful to a group of people? Fuck that. Agreed.
December 13Dec 13 Something I always wondered. What was the enticement to pick up the ball? My understanding is it was only queer if you let them tackle you
December 13Dec 13 Enticement to pick up the ball? Be the toughest MFer - if only for a moment - in the game. It helped with kid toughness pecking order and, to a lesser extent, kid smarts pecking order. I was horrible at it and got crushed all the time, but it was fun as hell.
December 13Dec 13 "Always make sure you are tackled from behind." – Dale, Queer person, maybe. Probably. Who knows?
December 13Dec 13 7 hours ago, HornOnTheBayou said: For any of you that think saying "queer" is no big deal, can y'all please start using that term around your office and then report back on what happens? Anyone who still works in an office is queer.
December 13Dec 13 5 hours ago, ztejas said: I like how two posters said they think Bijan is gay and y'all are still tied up in the "Smear the Queer" debate. This site is 1 of 1. Is he not? I assumed he was.
December 13Dec 13 4 hours ago, Orale said: I'm queer. I played smear the queer. I don't recall knowing what it meant as a kid. Bijan goofed in saying it, but it was innocent and good on him for the quick apology. He's welcome to smear me as penance. Just to make sure I’m not totally ignorant here, we’re talking about wall-ball, right? Even 20 years ago it was half the time called smear the queer but I would agree that as a 5th grader or whatever, it was never thought of in the way that we as adults would think of it now. Good for Bijan protecting his brand, and of course we (or most of us) don’t talk this way as adults, but geez what a non story. also I grew up in rural east Texas so YMMV Edited December 13Dec 13 by Etexhorn13
December 13Dec 13 2 minutes ago, Etexhorn13 said: Just to make sure I’m not totally ignorant here, we’re talking about wall-ball, right? Even 20 years ago it was half the time called smear the queer but I would agree that as a 5th grader or whatever, it was never thought of in the way that we as adults would think of it now. Good for Bijan protecting his brand, and of course we (or most of us) don’t talk this way as adults, but geez what a non story. also I grew up in rural east Texas so YMMV Nah its basically unstructured rugby where one kid has the ball and everyone else tries to tackle him until he fumbles and somebody else gets to be the queer
December 13Dec 13 25 minutes ago, Etexhorn13 said: Just to make sure I’m not totally ignorant here, we’re talking about wall-ball, right? Even 20 years ago it was half the time called smear the queer but I would agree that as a 5th grader or whatever, it was never thought of in the way that we as adults would think of it now. Good for Bijan protecting his brand, and of course we (or most of us) don’t talk this way as adults, but geez what a non story. also I grew up in rural east Texas so YMMV You're thinking of buns up.
December 13Dec 13 28 minutes ago, Etexhorn13 said: Just to make sure I’m not totally ignorant here, we’re talking about wall-ball, right? Even 20 years ago it was half the time called smear the queer but I would agree that as a 5th grader or whatever, it was never thought of in the way that we as adults would think of it now. Good for Bijan protecting his brand, and of course we (or most of us) don’t talk this way as adults, but geez what a non story. also I grew up in rural east Texas so YMMV Wall-ball is different from tackle the man with the football, which is different from buck buck
December 13Dec 13 I guess STQ in its fully developed form hadn’t made its way to east Texas by then, because i definitely remember that being the playground name for wall-ball, but the point still stands. That was never a game we played during football practice but maybe we wee just way behind all the Dallas/austin/houston enlightened kids. Edited December 13Dec 13 by Etexhorn13
December 13Dec 13 1 hour ago, Dahobbs said: You're thinking of buns up. At Bedichek we called it 'butts up'. Just heard they're closing Bedichek. Wow. That place is a got damn national treasure.
December 13Dec 13 We all played it, we all know the name of the game. Nobody has ever cared. Pearlclutchers will clutch pearls and they can fuck right off
December 13Dec 13 Luckily that isn’t the stance Bijan chose to take on the situation. He knew Surlys culture warriors would take care of it.
December 13Dec 13 7 hours ago, cmontexas said: Something I always wondered. What was the enticement to pick up the ball? My understanding is it was only queer if you let them tackle you Childhood pride, man.
December 13Dec 13 3 hours ago, Gidnik said: We all played it, we all know the name of the game. Nobody has ever cared. Pearlclutchers will clutch pearls and they can fuck right off You’re referring to all the outrage about the apology right?
December 13Dec 13 18 hours ago, kingkoopa6 said: It just rhymed. That’s why I thought we said it When we started playing this and calling it stq in our neighborhood around d the time I turned 6 or 7 we didn't even know what "gay" was. But i understand why it's frowned upon now. I definitely don't think Bijan had any ill intent but it would be a stupid hill to die on.
December 13Dec 13 7 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said: When we started playing this and calling it stq in our neighborhood around d the time I turned 6 or 7 we didn't even know what "gay" was. But i understand why it's frowned upon now. I definitely don't think Bijan had any ill intent but it would be a stupid hill to die on. Same for us as kids. Needs a better name but “Tackle the Guy With the Ball” doesn’t exactly roll out.
December 13Dec 13 The "victims" and the "pearlclutchers" in this thread seem to be the ones that were upset that Bijan apologized, which is what this whole thing is about in the first place.
December 13Dec 13 16 hours ago, Harrison Stafford said: We called it “kill the man with the ball”, but there were neighborhoods nearby that called it “smear the queer” and it had absolutely nothing to do with the sexual preferences of anyone anywhere. Yep. Same here in the ‘70’s in SETX. Shortened to “Kill the Man” or even just “Kill.”
December 13Dec 13 10 hours ago, wood said: At Bedichek we called it 'butts up'. Just heard they're closing Bedichek. Wow. That place is a got damn national treasure. A counselor at our YMCA summer camp called it spread eagle. Upon reflection, I’m a little concerned.
December 13Dec 13 Kill the man with the ball. Throw up tackle. Smear the queer. It’s all the same. Apologize for offending the weak. Move on the next day it will be forgotten except on message boards and reddits where faux outrage will billow until the next person says. That’s gay. And wash rinse repeat.
December 13Dec 13 12 hours ago, Da Fino said: Is he not? I assumed he was. If he’s gay he’s allowed to use queer. No need to apologize.
December 13Dec 13 We called it- Give the Obviously Gay Kid the Ball So We Could Take Turns Knocking the Piss Out of Him. Those were simpler times and there was nothing homophobic about it.
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