This is why it’s pretty much impossible to have a reasonable discussion about coordinators/play calling on message boards. It’s a bunch of people who have no idea what they’re seeing and are just angry the team gave up big plays. Orlando has a lot of issues, primarily the lack of development of young guys in his scheme for two years. Orlando needs to show improvement by the end of the season, or he should go, but people have been whining even after solid performances, like OSU. Most people on here whine about play calls they don’t understand, when the bigger issues are players understanding Their responsibilities and being assignment sound. A lot of the plays people have complained about (besides 3rd and 17 of course) have been much less about play calling and much more about players failing to execute or honor their assignments.
It’s actually pretty clear. Roach has outside contain, like JBJ explained, while Mitchell has the inside gap. They’re playing a gap, not a man, so they both initially breakdown where they’re supposed to, but Roach gets impatient and loses his mind to dive inside, leaving no one for the RB and forcing Mitchell to ditch his gap and now chase down a faster RB.
the play call was perfect for that run and if Roach just stays home for half a second longer, it’s a negative play. Like I mention later, if Roach had played DE last year too, maybe he makes this play. Instead, he gets over excited and doesn’t trust that the LB, Mitchell, will hold up his responsibility on the play, even though he actually did.
Nope. They’re taught gaps, not covering a specific man, and you have their gaps mixed up.
Also no. He played his assignment perfectly, he got to his gap and broke down, giving Hurts a give read, which should have been a 3 yard loss. if Roach stays home, the RB runs right into him unblocked. Mitchell also reacted pretty quickly by realizing Roach fucked up and chased down a faster RB.
They weren’t frozen. The defensive play is to break down in their gaps, which both did. Roach just needed to stay home. Mitchell wasn’t hesitant, he did what he’s supposed to do in the correct play call for that play.
Also wrong. Mitchell didn’t take a bad angle. He covered his gap like he’s supposed to. After executing the play correctly, he was in a bad spot to chase down a guy in a gap he wasn’t responsible for.
It’s not a cluster fuck at all. It’s pretty obvious what was happening. 10 guys did their job and Roach got over excited on the first play of the game. This is what makes Lincoln’s offense so hard to stop. He gives 3-5 options on every play and makes the D pay for screwing up any one of those 5 or so options. It’s why almost no defense has had much success against him at all in the last three years. He’s the best offensive coach in football by a good margin and people should also take that into account that when trying to jump on Orlando for very single mistake in this game. A decent amount of mistakes are exploited against every DC who faces Riley.
Still no. It’s not a man scheme. No one “has the RB” pre-snap.
They weren’t tentative. They’re coached to break down in their gaps. If Roach had been half a second “more tentative,” then it’s a 3 yard loss.
It’s a good scheme. A lot of good DCs run this scheme. Orlando’s coaching of it is a different story.
Also, it wasn’t developed solely for the RPO. It’s a scheme that has risen In popularity particularly due to spread offenses. Just because you don’t understand how it works doesn’t mean it’s a horrible scheme.
The first play was bad alignment for the counter. The second play was a fine play call. Jones should’ve kept outside contain and the play gets stopped for like 3 yards. Him jumping inside when the ILB was engaging the lead blocker killed the play and there’s no explanation for him doing it, other than he’s only played nickel for like two weeks now.
Orlando hasn’t done a good job of teaching his guys things like leverage and containment. Often times, we’ve had guys in position to make plays (i.e. a good play call/scheme) and they fail to keep contain and we give up a huge gain. Still Orlando’s fault but not for the reason a lot of people aren’t pointing to.
Another big criticism for Orlando is how much he moves his guys around. Roach should’ve started at DE last year over Hager, instead of wasting a year learning LB. Orlando needs to keep his safeties in one spot, instead of moving them around so much. It makes it really difficult for them to know and execute their assignments when they’re loved around this much. IMO, all offseason should’ve been Foster at Joker, Jones at Nickel and Brown and Sterns deep, but even if Orlando picked different spots for those guys, he needs to more consistently rep them at their spots, so they can really learn their position and the scheme.
Lulz. We would’ve gotten murdered with 4 down and bracketing Lamb every play. OU’s offense is way too good to only have 5 available players to cover all their other options. Riley, especially with a running threat at QB, spreads you thin and makes you execute at every single position. 1/11 mis-executing and it’s a big play. That’s what makes Riley so good and there’s no way 4 down linemen and bracketing Lamb would ever work.
What are you talking about? This wasn’t a mobility issue. Roach was right fucking there. His problem was that he moved, not that he had a lack of mobility to make that play.