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Today's shooting resides here in Texas

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/08/us/bryan-texas-shooting/index.html

Police in Bryan, Texas, are searching for a suspect after six people were injured during a shooting at an industrial park on Thursday afternoon, according to Lt. Jason James of the Bryan Police Department.

 

The victims were taken to a local hospital, but James could not speak to the extent of their injuries in a brief interview with CNN Thursday afternoon. He could not say whether all the victims had suffered gunshot wounds.

 

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Patricio Swayze

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Have there been any thoughts and prayers yet?  That should fix the problem.

JimmyJames

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Not. to. worry.  Abbot AND his wife are prayin’ for all the victims. We got this.

thunderlounge

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3 hours ago, immamac said:

I swear my neighborhood flag is never going to stay at full mast...

Now it has something in common with your dick at least. 

Macanudo

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Just a good old boy....  never meaning no harm......

TexasEd

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My cousin's husband and son both work at that cabinet company.  Trying to learn more without hounding them.  He was 40 feet away and spoke to the shooter before he started shooting.

Lerka Lerka

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Damn. Shaggy universe never ceases to amaze. 

Updawg

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My cousin's husband and son both work at that cabinet company.  Trying to learn more without hounding them.  He was 40 feet away and spoke to the shooter before he started shooting.

Damn

52-80

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3 hours ago, TexasEd said:

My cousin's husband and son both work at that cabinet company.  Trying to learn more without hounding them.  He was 40 feet away and spoke to the shooter before he started shooting.

my residence has cabinets, so this hits close to home

Jkwellborn

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My cousin's husband and son both work at that cabinet company.  Trying to learn more without hounding them.  He was 40 feet away and spoke to the shooter before he started shooting.

That’s crazy

thunderlounge

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7 hours ago, Lerka Lerka said:

Damn. Shaggy universe never ceases to amaze. 

We’re fucking everywhere, and everyone. The sun never sets on the Surly Empire. 

atomheartbevo

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6 minutes ago, thunderlounge said:

We’re fucking everywhere, and everyone. The sun never sets on the Surly Empire. 

Avatar kind of checks out.  

thunderlounge

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19 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Avatar kind of checks out.  


That avatar always checks out. Iron Maiden’s gonna get you, no matter how far. 

Newdoc

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This guy has a million dollar bond set. How does a guy who “allegedly” shoots multiple people including a LEO get any type of bond?

Guest Lobo

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(edited)

Good question.  The Atlanta and Boulder shooters are both being held without bail.  The Boulder shooter appears to be much more lethal with a weapon given his kill rate, including a police officer.  But the Atlanta shooter did not appear to be a massive threat to the public at-large.  The old mantra has always been "If they're crazy enough to kill a cop, they're crazy enough to do real damage to the general public."  And this Bryan guy did just that but he could be out on bond soon.  

The Atlanta shooter is the one who appears to be the last dangerous to citizens and he got no bail set immediately despite it being pretty obvious to the judge that his "bad day" was over,  The Boulder shooter had a judge at least stew on it for a few hours before making his decision.  But this Bryan shooter will probably be out of jail before the DPS State Trooper he tried to kill is out of critical condition.  

Seems weird.  But that's Texas for you.  Can you attach conditions to bail like, "If you are within 100 yards of a firearm during your bonded release, you will forfeit the bond and be immediately sent back to jail with increased charges?"   OR would that infringe on his constitutional rights? 

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TexasEd

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5 hours ago, thunderlounge said:

We’re fucking everywhere, and everyone. The sun never sets on the Surly Empire. 

The Eyes of Texas are Upon You

thunderlounge

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Not just that there is a bond period, but only $1M? That’s $100k to a bondsman, and not out of the question for someone to come up with. Not possible for everyone obviously, but take a second on a house or something and it’s not out reach for more people than one would think. (Doesn’t mean they would, just that they potentially could.)

Shouldn’t be one to begin with, but $10M+ would seem more appropriate and pretty much be the same as none. 

thunderlounge

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7 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Seems weird.  But that's Texas for you.  Can you attach conditions to bail like, "If you are within 100 yards of a firearm during your bonded release, you will forfeit the bond and be immediately sent back to jail with increased charges?"   OR would that infringe on his constitutional rights? 


Not 100% sure on what all is possible, but there can be some conditionals at least. For example, having to turn in your passport or having to check in with someone similar to a parole officer. 
 

How far it can go down that rabbit hole I’m not sure. One of the resident lawyers can dial it in, but there may not be much of a reasonable limit? No possession/access to firearms on a shooting wouldn’t appear to be over the line at face value. 

GW Hayduke

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19 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Seems weird.  But that's Texas for you.  Can you attach conditions to bail like, "If you are within 100 yards of a firearm during your bonded release, you will forfeit the bond and be immediately sent back to jail with increased charges?"   OR would that infringe on his constitutional rights? 

What part of 'shall not be infringed' do you not understand?

Guest Lobo

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I thought maybe we could get that temporarily waived for a guy who shoots his friends at work and cops for fun.  Imagine what he does to people he doesn't like?  

SquishMitten

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Can you attach conditions to bail like, "If you are within 100 yards of a firearm during your bonded release, you will forfeit the bond and be immediately sent back to jail with increased charges?"   OR would that infringe on his constitutional rights? 


I think there can be all sorts of conditions. But they at least have to be physically possible. It would be pretty damn hard to remain more than 100 yards from a firearm. Technically, he violate it the second he bonded out due to cops nearby. I believe possessing a firearm while on bond is a violation though

thunderlounge

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59 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:

 


I think there can be all sorts of conditions. But they at least have to be physically possible. It would be pretty damn hard to remain more than 100 yards from a firearm. Technically, he violate it the second he bonded out due to cops nearby. I believe possessing a firearm while on bond is a violation though

 


That’s pretty much my non-lawyer understanding. In the big picture they are allowing you to wade through the legal system outside of custody in exchange for certain conditions. The accused can choose to not accept the conditions, lawyer can haggle with the DA, etc. It’s not a violation as they are accepting the terms willingly. (Not that they wouldn’t have even less rights sitting around in jail instead.)

 

Similar to conditions of parole. If you want out early, here are the rules. Take it or leave it.

I’m still a bit surprised bail was offered at all, especially in a case like this. People accused of far less have been denied outright. Pretty strange deal going on. 
 

Do we have an over/under on how long before he takes himself out if he bonds out?

Helobious

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Wasn’t this technically the last Texas shooting? 

Scheiss Meister

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5 hours ago, Helobious said:

Wasn’t this technically the last Texas shooting? 

It would be great if it was the last, but I doubt that it is.  Sadly, it's just the latest.

TexasEd

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On 4/8/2021 at 11:52 PM, TexasEd said:

My cousin's husband and son both work at that cabinet company.  Trying to learn more without hounding them.  He was 40 feet away and spoke to the shooter before he started shooting.

So my cousin's husband has multiple roles there and one is HR.  Apparently he and another employee were the ones to do clean-up before they let employees back in so there wasn't more trauma when they came in to get their belongings.  Good grief. 

His son also works there and was a work friend of the victim who died.  Go to lunch and stuff.  Apparently the fatality victim was the main target and the rest of the people were collateral injuries. He was near the shooting when it happened but not right there.

 

 

Guest Lobo

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So sorry to hear this.  Hope they can move on in some way

Updawg

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If only the whole warehouse had guns while working

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