Everything posted by softlynow
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The Supremes
Tap the brakes. Jackson concurred with the majority. I skimmed the majority and the concurrence, and, while I didn't see enough to analyze the opinion itself, that quick read does tell me this will have a very limited impact on 1/6 prosecutions.
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
Trump immunity ruling from SCOTUS stops that cycle.
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Ukraine War
If the election was in July, very.
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
Let me clarify. Undecideds. Like you say, there are lots of indys that are already decided. They aren't likely changing their vote after tonight.
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
Well, it looks like the cooler heads are now prevailing in this thread. Fun while it lasted.
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
To that point, they're usually independent because they don't pay attention until the end.
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
Let's see where things are in a few months, but the bolded seems like a gut shot reaction. I have a couple aggy friends who texted me after learning the Schloss news, and you'd have thought I personally shot their dog, cut off their testicles fed them to their mother and burned down their church. By this evening, they remembered that they barely cared about college baseball, and our conversations normalized. I didn't watch the debate, and haven't bothered with low or highlights yet. I can imagine that those of y'all who did are feeling like aggy upon learning that we played Lucy with the football to their Charlie Brown, yet again. That feeling will fade. If this had been an October debate, different story. It's fucking June.
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
Which leads me to ask again, why the fuck did we have a June debate? I saw somewhere this was at the Dems urging. If true, was it because they wanted a possible first run bomb to be buried 4.5 months before the election, with the nomination serving as a scripted bounce back?
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
Ex-Republicans really are the best allies these days.
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
Nah. That's old news. Stories are new stuff. Hawk tuah, not Scottie Scheffler's arrest. Everyone who may actually watch CNN knows Trump is a liar. That's ancient history by their standards. New drives clicks, sells ads. Run old shit, and you just lost someone to the Stanley Cup or to their TikTok feed. If the Biden campaign is savvy, they'll break the news cycle with something new. Who knows, maybe they needed this to allow some ignored jr. staffer to run with some risky, but high upside stunt?
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Joe Biden 2024 thread - Dark Brandon Where Art Thou?
Why, the fuck, did they even stage one in June?
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
80. I'd nominate him for governor of Nebraska, though.
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
Mack Brown, 72, is tanned, rested and ready.
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
What % of the electorate is paying attention to any of that? 2? 3?
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
I know they talked about it. But they didn't have enough folks to go along with any scheme they could come up with to ignore the votes and put in an also ran. I'm saying that even if Dems DO end up having a sufficient number of people inclined to ditch the rules, they won't because pussy Dems.
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
A vocal push because some were scared of an "unconventional" candidate, sure. But that candidate had enormous support, and did not uniformly scare the power brokers in the party that his candidacy was a threat to democracy. Trump's second term is existential in nature. If the partys were flipped, it was a Dem nominee who was openly campaigning to end the Republic, and a Biden-type was the GOPs guy headed into the convention. I would put money on an event like tonight scuttling that nomination. I can't do that for the Dems.
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
No it isn't. The Democratic Party in the fifth party system ('32-'80) was big enough to hold just about every point of view, other than isolationism and communism. Racist and non-racist. Tax and spend and austerity. Open the borders, close 'em tight. Unto the breach . . . War, huh, what is it good for? There is certainly a centrist/progressive divide on a lot. But in general, those factions are way closer to each other than the extremes in the DNC were in, say, 1972. Hell, Biden got everyone on board before the Super Tuesday vote last time around.
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
Read the orientation material we recieved when crossing the aisle. Dems take that more seriously than they should, while Pubs ...
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
Nah, that's not a problem. The quick news cycle is our ally in this situation. People will be tired of hawk tuah meme's pretty soon. So will it be with negative talk about how disjointed the Dems are right after the convention. Unless somehow the nominee is a Marianne Williamson. Then, yeah, no chance. And this isn't the fractious Dem party of the '70s. Dems are in general alliance on most things, with a couple very notable exception, of course. But this isn't a gigantic tent trying to keep southern conservatives and northeast liberals in voting lockstep.
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
Remember, Dems are pussies. No way they play that game. I agree that in the same situation (it's not the same because Trump cult), the GOP's rules, whatever they may be, are more like guidelines, or even just words that can be rearranged at will.
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
I think Gavin riding with a dramatic convention nomination, a few days after Biden addresses the nation LBJ-style, would be great TV/Social Media, would run his candidate ID up to where it needs to be, and would give all the folks bitching about having two old people to select from a real choice. The right's greatest advantage against a Dem presidential nominee is the slow-drip-drip of turning people against them on their media outlets, in chain emails, and at the watercooler. It's what made Clinton, Bill a great candidate. "Who? Well, I gues I can vote for him." But then made Clinton, Hillary a terrible candidate. "Yeah, Billary. Man is that pants-suit lesbian actually be president. No way!" Dems with little record of being slurred by right-wing media, and the often complicit mainstream media, fare MUCH better than the old hand. Biden won because Trump fucked up COVID. Period. We probably could have, in retrospect, nominated a number of other folks and pulled out that win. Of course, who eles could've made it through the Dem nominating process is a totally different discussion.
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
Delegates elected to the national convention pledged to a presidential candidate shall in all good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them.[12]” —Rule 13(J), 2020 Delegate Selection Rules I think he would have to say, "I'm out" and release the pledged delegates.
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
I think Barack could convince him.
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
This pre-convention debate really seemed odd to me. If this really was the Dems doing, I'm now curious as to whether it was meant to give Joe a chance to stand aside for a new nominee at the convention, should he not be up to the task.
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The WAY too early June Presidential Debate thread
While that is correct, she was not the person to break through that barrier. Jackie Robinson was a brilliant choice to break the baseball color barrier because, among other things, he was an all-timer. Kamala struggled in the early primary debates, and this is coming from someone who thought she might just be the candidate in Dec 2019/Jan 2020. The first black woman to be a presidential nominee of a major party will have to be a great candidate, not just one good enough to win a nomination were she a white male. Not a Dukakis or a Mondale or a Dole or a Biden or a GWB. Obama won because he was political Jackie Robinson. Kamala wasn't that. I guess she might grow and be that if she tries again, but in 2020, no. All that said only reinforces your point. Her candidacy was short-lived because she's a black woman.