#VETTINGBERNIE
Bernie sanders did not in fact support the Contras that committed war crimes and didn't blindly suck the dick of the CIA, now the MSM has VETTED Bernie.
What? I have to get off my laptop now and can't look up polls, but I have seen TONS of polls of Bernie beating Trump head to head. I'll give you that there have been a couple where he hasn't and maybe a swing state or two, but there are tons that contradict this.
Let's also ignore this shit too, Bernie is eating into Biden's insanely lead with the olds.
https://theintercept.com/2020/01/28/joe-biden-older-voters-bernie-sanders/
Bernie inspiring huge turnout in the primary where fewer people vote means that the ever dwindling boomer population is going to successfully rally once again, yes 100% correct. Let's ignore all polling that shows him beating Trump head-to-head. The average voter isn't going to fucking differentiate what a Socialist actually is when they've been fed it the past 12 years.
I'm skeptical this time because they are going to absolutely fracture the party and completely turn a 180 on their #VoteBlueNoMatterWho messaging (which I agree is probably not meant for anyone but Bernie supporters).
I see that account and the fucking Horse Guy in almost every big positive Bernie tweet. Bernie winning is going to melt their brains because of how long they've been pushing the #VoteBlueNoMatterWho crap assuming Bernie didn't have a shot.
You're severely underestimating Bernie's campaign if they think that simply saying "M4A is wonderful" is going to flip skeptics. Half the damn rallies I've watched he's had people speak about their medical debt or trouble dealing with health insurance and there is no shortage of people willing to speak up at all.
There's no doubt in my mind he's cut into lots of middle-aged Iowans' fears over what they'd do if they had a medical emergency because so many of the people I've seen weren't the young hispter millennials that the media acts as if are the only ones who support him.
I don't just want to shit on your regular everyday Americans that are probably much more worried about bills and debts than I am, but what kind of paint-huffing person are you to be deciding between Trump and Warren on the basis of who is more serious?
Even in this election do we have an enormous very disengaged population.
Yeah I've heard multiple Bloomberg ads on the radio here in Georgia. It's clear so much of his polling is due to ad space in states where people aren't even thinking about their primary yet.
Agreed to an extent, but their plans on how they're funded and how it would be theoretically be implemented are different. Warren didn't have to come out with a multi-step process even if that was her idea all along, there's no point in starting negotiations months before Iowa. She also has lots of people backing her who probably didn't care for M4A and why she bled some support to Pete and Klobuchar.
@bad_teammate Not sure if you'll catch this, but if you aren't familiar with Phillip Agnew he's a surrogate who has been in a few Bernie videos, most notably one where he talked to a bunch of PoC in Miami (or maybe South Florida in general) and he helped moderate it. Nina Turner is awesome, but it's so clear he's going to be going on to bigger things.
I'm going to be shocked if this doesn't happen soon. I think it was Morning Edition on NPR, but multiple lawyers and judges were interviewed about this very question and there's even confusion if you can discharge student debt via bankruptcy now and that this notion of "all student debt is frozen from bankruptcy" has caused lots of people to not even try.
This so much better, I really can't see this making a bunch of people not vote for Bernie now in the primary whereas he knows it may give him the nomination and possible presidency reaching a bunch of chuds unfortunately.
A lot of cis and trans women of all races have been more vocal about it being offensive this year. Those three people I follow would probably be more offended about being called Bernie-Bros as opposed to the Sanders' campaign highlighting Rogan's support.
Clymer hates Bernie and always has. Oh look I found trans people who are saying differently, huh
All three of those are people who I've followed well before this. Like B_T said, I'd rather hear from the few trans people we have on this board.
I mean I have actual trans friends who are okay with this, they aren't maybe happy but they understand it's an election. I do eagerly await for you to blame the bros again for helping re-elect Trump if Bernie gets the nomination. For as much as you want to talk about Rogan being a bigot, it'd help your case if you'd drop the Bernie-Bros insult.
I forget how long ago, but Cohn posted about one of the recent Iowa polls where Bernie was up by 3 or 4 points and noted that it included people who either caucused as Republican in 2016 or didn't caucus at all and that Bernie may be getting underestimated in other polls. Going to be funny to see if this pushes him over the edge in Iowa.