November 13, 20205 yr 7 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said: Digging the new Stapleton album. He isn't breaking any new ground, but he's doing what he does (and who he is) as well as ever. maggies song really gets you in the feels
November 13, 20205 yr 16 minutes ago, Viper said: maggies song really gets you in the feels It's definitely a testament to his skills. Everyone mocks country as being "songs about your dog", but god damn if that isn't a gut wrenching song about a dog. Edited November 13, 20205 yr by Al_4_ISU
November 14, 20205 yr Not the biggest Paul Thorn fan, but he’ll have a new album out next year and title track release today...damn. https://americansongwriter.com/premiere-paul-thorn-never-too-late-to-call/I like Paul Thorn. Good tunes. Met him one time, good dude too.+1 on that title track.
November 14, 20205 yr On 11/12/2020 at 6:26 PM, Gil Bang said: Not gonna cloak up the music thread, but some interesting things are happening on Isbell's twitter. It's really political, it's also proof-positive that Isbell is a kind and decent man that cares.
November 14, 20205 yr On 11/6/2020 at 9:01 AM, 4th&Five said: If you've never seen it, the Muscle Shoals documentary is a really good watch. I think Isbell actually worked at FAME studios in high school.
November 14, 20205 yr In 2011 or 2012 before he blew up I asked him on Twitter what I should do in MS because I was nearby for work. He basically set up a tour for me at FAME. Pretty amazing.
November 16, 20205 yr On 11/13/2020 at 3:18 PM, Viper said: maggies song really gets you in the feels Very much this. I was in my car by myself when I heard it for the first time and caught myself thinking about my old dog Gus <sign of the cross> and messed around and got a bit emotional. It's a great song.
November 16, 20205 yr On 11/13/2020 at 7:16 PM, tbone_ said: I like Paul Thorn. Good tunes. Met him one time, good dude too. +1 on that title track. EVERYONE who meets him says the same thing. Truly seems like an honestly good dude. Very funny dude.
November 16, 20205 yr EVERYONE who meets him says the same thing. Truly seems like an honestly good dude. Very funny dude. His story about fighting Roberto Duran is always a good one.
November 17, 20205 yr If learning is living, and the truth is a state of mind you’ll find it’s better at the end of the line.
November 17, 20205 yr I grew up in Missouri. I had long since moved to Austin when the floods destroyed multiple towns along the Mississippi River in 1993, but I was well-connected to Uncle Tupelo and other similar bands by that time. When Son Volt released "Tear Stained Eye", my heart broke. That song nailed it.
November 17, 20205 yr And it's now or never, too close to the latter. We're all living proof that nothing lasts. What a great fucking record. Thanks for posting about that @4th and 5 And Kasey Chambers' version of "Tear Stained Eye"....momma. Edited November 17, 20205 yr by hullabelew
November 17, 20205 yr Yep, still wanna have her baby. She'll just need to get me to stop crying first.
November 17, 20205 yr The first time I heard “Drown” I thought “every fucking song should sound like this”.
November 17, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said: The first time I heard “Drown” I thought “every fucking song should sound like this”. Please take this as a compliment: I am not at all surprised to see you say that.
November 17, 20205 yr 25 years. Wow. I think I’m going to add Tear Stained Eye to our Friday night set list.
November 18, 20205 yr Please take this as a compliment: I am not at all surprised to see you say that.No offense taken. It is undoubtedly obvious in my taste.
November 18, 20205 yr 16 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said: The first time I heard “Drown” I thought “every fucking song should sound like this”. My introduction to Son Volt was Cherokee Street Girl but I had a similar thought.
November 18, 20205 yr When the first Wilco and first Son Volt records came out, I really thought Son Volt was going to be the more successful and 'better' of the two. Damn, I love that record.
November 18, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, Shoxthemonkey said: My introduction to Son Volt was Cherokee Street Girl but I had a similar thought. I had been diving into the alt-country thing for a few months when I got to Son Volt. Drive-By Truckers were my first deep dive (I'd loved Old 97's "Too Far to Care" a few years prior but it didn't take me immediately down the rabbit hole). I loved DBT's fierce regional-ity, but not being from the South, I felt a little on the outside of it. Then I hear these guys hammering out Stones riffs, with a nod to country, a little punk snarl, and a heavy dose of Midwestern fatalism and pragmatism and I was hooked. Hard.
November 18, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, hullabelew said: When the first Wilco and first Son Volt records came out, I really thought Son Volt was going to be the more successful and 'better' of the two. Damn, I love that record. Trace is still the best album either of those guys ever put out. Tweedy obviously "won" the more lucrative and lauded career, but Trace is just on a little different level. At the end of the day, what Jay Farrar wanted musically was never going to have that wide of an appeal. Tweedy always had more pop sensibility and was more connected to what the critical community would embrace. And I say this as someone who loves the first 5 Wilco albums dearly, and has seen Wilco many times live.
November 18, 20205 yr I gotta be honest, I don't get the Wilco love. I'll also be honest and say that the first few tunes I heard didn't hook me and I never dove any deeper.
November 18, 20205 yr How about Jay singing with Kelly Willis on one of Bruce's early songs. And Jay singing with Kelly on one she cowrote with Gary Louris from The Jayhawks.
November 18, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, hullabelew said: When the first Wilco and first Son Volt records came out, I really thought Son Volt was going to be the more successful and 'better' of the two. Damn, I love that record. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/uncle-tupelos-anodyne-at-25-oral-history-wilco-733327/ Quote Coomer: Jay put out Trace. That was an amazing record. I don’t know if I can tell you this story, but when we all first heard Trace, you know, we’re in the vans. And it’s Tony and the whole band in one van and the crew is in the other van. … Some people in the van had edibles. A cookie. A pleasurable cookie. And so, then, Tony says, “I’ve got it! I’ve got his record.” Tony pops it in the CD player. Nobody says a word. An absolute word. Tony is driving. We’re running down the highway, the record ends, nobody says a word. Ten minutes. Tony rolls down the window, pops out that CD and throws it out. I thought I was going to pee my pants. 2 hours ago, Shoxthemonkey said: I gotta be honest, I don't get the Wilco love. I'll also be honest and say that the first few tunes I heard didn't hook me and I never dove any deeper. Next time you're cooking or something put this album on and just let it go. Trying to link to the playlist for "Kicking Television", their live album that I think is mostly songs from A Ghost is Born and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.
November 18, 20205 yr 20 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said: The first time I heard “Drown” I thought “every fucking song should sound like this”. I remember my first time too. And I agree. Saw them twice, not too long after "Trace," came out. Once at Satellite Lounge in Houston. (Great freaking show, loud as F, and got a pair of drumsticks afterward)
November 18, 20205 yr I gotta be honest, I don't get the Wilco love. I'll also be honest and say that the first few tunes I heard didn't hook me and I never dove any deeper.This is exactly where I’ve always been RE: Wilco. I’ve tried several times. Doesn’t do it for me.
November 18, 20205 yr Next time you're cooking or something put this album on and just let it go. Trying to link to the playlist for "Kicking Television", their live album that I think is mostly songs from A Ghost is Born and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot. If I was sending a Son Volt fan to Wilco, I’d suggest something more similar to Son Volt, I guess. I LOVE KT, but not sure that the best starting point.I’d recommend the following Wilco tracks for SV fans:Box Full of LettersCasino QueenMondayELTI’m Always in LovePretty accessible and kinda moves you from Uncle Tupelo towards peak Tweedy
November 18, 20205 yr Everything I have heard of Wilco was on YHF. No thanks. Edit to add that there is probably a better thread to discuss this. Sorry, Jason. Sorry, Sturgill. Edited November 18, 20205 yr by Shoxthemonkey
November 18, 20205 yr Everything I have heard of Wilco was on YHF. No thanks. Edit to add that there is probably a better thread to discuss this. Sorry, Jason. Sorry, Sturgill.I didn’t suggest a single YHF song.
November 19, 20205 yr I think I actually got in YHF first, but AM and Being There really made me a Wilco fan.
November 19, 20205 yr I think Being There is a great jumping off point. It's also their "best" record in many ways. Deeper than AM but no less hooky. My fave Wilco tune at the moment is "Jesus, Etc.". Such a smooth vibe. Ask me later today and I'll say something else.
November 19, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said: I think Being There is a great jumping off point. It's also their "best" record in many ways. Deeper than AM but no less hooky. My fave Wilco tune at the moment is "Jesus, Etc.". Such a smooth vibe. Ask me later today and I'll say something else. Spot on.
November 19, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said: I think Being There is a great jumping off point. It's also their "best" record in many ways. Deeper than AM but no less hooky. My fave Wilco tune at the moment is "Jesus, Etc.". Such a smooth vibe. Ask me later today and I'll say something else. Having been a Wilco fan from AM days (as well as Son Volt), this is the correct answer. As a double album, Being There has more of what makes AM great - accessible alt-country/rock tunes - and the songs that are headed in the more experimental directions of YHF and a Ghost is Born (both of which I love) aren't so experimental as to be alienating. Rather, they're different enough to be engaging. I mean, Outta Mind Outta Sight is fantastic and it has a similar bendy hook in it to "Drown." Well alright/I know you don't love me but you still been thinkin of me/ Well alright, I know you probably hate me/ that's OK with me... That said, I've always had a soft spot for Summerteeth. Maybe because I love mellotron. Maybe because it reminds me of good times at UT and a sweet sweet girl I was dating at the time. Either way, it's a good record.
November 19, 20205 yr 11 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said: Having been a Wilco fan from AM days (as well as Son Volt), this is the correct answer. As a double album, Being There has more of what makes AM great - accessible alt-country/rock tunes - and the songs that are headed in the more experimental directions of YHF and a Ghost is Born (both of which I love) aren't so experimental as to be alienating. Rather, they're different enough to be engaging. I mean, Outta Mind Outta Sight is fantastic and it has a similar bendy hook in it to "Drown." Well alright/I know you don't love me but you still been thinkin of me/ Well alright, I know you probably hate me/ that's OK with me... That said, I've always had a soft spot for Summerteeth. Maybe because I love mellotron. Maybe because it reminds me of good times at UT and a sweet sweet girl I was dating at the time. Either way, it's a good record. Summerteeth is really good too. It has some of their best power pop moments.
November 19, 20205 yr That doc "I Am Trying To Break Your Heart" is terrific, too. I wanted to slap Jay Bennett for being such a douchebag, but then he died several years after getting the boot, so I sorta felt bad.
November 19, 20205 yr That doc "I Am Trying To Break Your Heart" is terrific, too. I wanted to slap Jay Bennett for being such a douchebag, but then he died several years after getting the boot, so I sorta felt bad.That doc confirmed for me Tweedy was kind of an asshole to work with and Jay lacked the awareness of his insistence upon himself. That guy was super talented. But you could just feel the other guys in the band being done with him. After reading Tweedy’s book, apparently they were enabling each other’s worst tendencies. It’s a shame because I think they were also a great creative team.
November 19, 20205 yr I just kept thinking "shut the fuck up, Jay, shut the fuck up". Bands are rarely democracies, and he way overestimated his value. That said, I do prefer his contributions to Wilco over Nels Cline's.
November 19, 20205 yr 43 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said: I just kept thinking "shut the fuck up, Jay, shut the fuck up". Bands are rarely democracies, and he way overestimated his value. That said, I do prefer his contributions to Wilco over Nels Cline's. As an arranger, I agree. The solo on "Impossible Germany" is probably the pinnacle of Wilco's musicality though.
November 19, 20205 yr 14 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said: As an arranger, I agree. The solo on "Impossible Germany" is probably the pinnacle of Wilco's musicality though. The tone on that solo always reminded me of John Croslin's tone (The Reivers): '
November 19, 20205 yr Good discussion on this page. Time to resume my spin through this 4+ hours of greatness https://www.rhino.com/article/wilcos-summerteeth-gets-deluxe-treatment
November 19, 20205 yr 22 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said: The tone on that solo always reminded me of John Croslin's tone (The Reivers): ' I don't hear it, but that's a pretty good song that I'd never heard before. So thanks for that!
November 20, 20205 yr 17 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said: I don't hear it, but that's a pretty good song that I'd never heard before. So thanks for that! @Al_4_ISU If you can't find any of the Reivers stuff, let me know. Their first album was under the band name, Zeitgeist. That band in one of my very, very favorites of all time. From 87-91...right in my wheelhouse. Edited November 20, 20205 yr by hullabelew
November 22, 20205 yr 25 years. Wow. I think I’m going to add Tear Stained Eye to our Friday night set list. Short clip was all I got. Pretty sure no one in the crowd knew the song but I did get a couple of questions about it after.
November 22, 20205 yr https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/mavis-staples-chris-stapleton-musicians-on-musicians-1088367/
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