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Jason Isbell, Sturgill Simpson, Chris Stapleton, and Other Good Stuff

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now i'm curious what his cancer thing was actually about? either way - I gave tropicana about a spin and a half and left it, not the vibe of his that I really love. But the new album sounds like it might be more up that alley, looking forward to it.

I low key love Tropicana.  It's kind of a pastiche, but he is so earnest and unflinching that he pulls it off.

I might try and go to this Cats Cradle show

 

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The Band of Heathens formed 20 years ago in '05, but it was this weekend in '08 that we "discovered" them.

This was the weekend that they rescheduled the Arkansas game in Austin because of Hurricane Ike, and may have been the first time a home game was played during the then 1-weekend ACL Festival.  Limited hotel capacity used to be a thing in Austin.

They played a day show at the Festival...we went to the game, regrouped, and looked through the Chronicle for live music.  Saw "The Band of Heathens" listed as an ACL Aftershow at the Saxon Pub, and decided that sounded cool.

Holy Mother of God that show was the best small venue show I've ever been to.  The dudes were juiced up from the ACL show and brought the house down at Saxon.  Shit I was 42 years old then and it changed (or at least fine tuned) the way I listen to music.  

The band has changed, grown, evolved over the years since then....but at their core, they are still the same band.  They regularly play all over Texas in the Fall, and I encourage y'all to catch them if you can.

https://bandofheathens.com/tour/

2 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

The Band of Heathens formed 20 years ago in '05, but it was this weekend in '08 that we "discovered" them.

This was the weekend that they rescheduled the Arkansas game in Austin because of Hurricane Ike, and may have been the first time a home game was played during the then 1-weekend ACL Festival.  Limited hotel capacity used to be a thing in Austin.

They played a day show at the Festival...we went to the game, regrouped, and looked through the Chronicle for live music.  Saw "The Band of Heathens" listed as an ACL Aftershow at the Saxon Pub, and decided that sounded cool.

Holy Mother of God that show was the best small venue show I've ever been to.  The dudes were juiced up from the ACL show and brought the house down at Saxon.  Shit I was 42 years old then and it changed (or at least fine tuned) the way I listen to music.  

The band has changed, grown, evolved over the years since then....but at their core, they are still the same band.  They regularly play all over Texas in the Fall, and I encourage y'all to catch them if you can.

https://bandofheathens.com/tour/


I’ve seen them twice. Once at kessler and once at longhorn saloon. The kessler is such an intimate venue that it appears some bands tone it down there. The longhorn saloon show earlier this year was really good.

They’re playing the saloon again in nov with jamestown revival. I’m in for that show.

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On 9/29/2025 at 9:40 PM, MirrOlure said:

The Band of Heathens formed 20 years ago in '05, but it was this weekend in '08 that we "discovered" them.

This was the weekend that they rescheduled the Arkansas game in Austin because of Hurricane Ike, and may have been the first time a home game was played during the then 1-weekend ACL Festival.  Limited hotel capacity used to be a thing in Austin.

They played a day show at the Festival...we went to the game, regrouped, and looked through the Chronicle for live music.  Saw "The Band of Heathens" listed as an ACL Aftershow at the Saxon Pub, and decided that sounded cool.

Holy Mother of God that show was the best small venue show I've ever been to.  The dudes were juiced up from the ACL show and brought the house down at Saxon.  Shit I was 42 years old then and it changed (or at least fine tuned) the way I listen to music.  

The band has changed, grown, evolved over the years since then....but at their core, they are still the same band.  They regularly play all over Texas in the Fall, and I encourage y'all to catch them if you can.

https://bandofheathens.com/tour/

The old man down in the Quarter slowly turns his head. 
Takes a drink from his whiskey bottle, and this is what he says….  
 

10 minutes ago, Ten Bears said:

 

She seems a little "off" in her SM posts.  Hope she is ok.

She came off that way in the documentary too.

Just now, Al_4_ISU said:

She came off that way in the documentary too.

She's always come across as a nut to me.  I'm sure Jason is no easy partner, but she's out there.

I’m highly wary of being the parasocial middle aged man in Jason Isbell underwear taking his side or against the woman or whatever but she has so much anxious energy and I don’t understand how someone in recovery could manage it.

great cover I’d never seen

 

I never understood why Ray LaMontagne would write a song called "Jolene".  I'm a huge Ray fan, but man, that's like writing a song called "Hey Jude".

7 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I never understood why Ray LaMontagne would write a song called "Jolene".  I'm a huge Ray fan, but man, that's like writing a song called "Hey Jude".

Here’s a hot take….his is better than dolly’s. But not better than the white stripes cover. 

8 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I never understood why Ray LaMontagne would write a song called "Jolene".  I'm a huge Ray fan, but man, that's like writing a song called "Hey Jude".

Or calling an album Let It Be

17 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

I’m highly wary of being the parasocial middle aged man in Jason Isbell underwear taking his side or against the woman or whatever but she has so much anxious energy and I don’t understand how someone in recovery could manage it.

great cover I’d never seen

 

I’ve come to the conclusion that Isbell can be a self righteous prick regardless of his chemical state, but it definitely rubbed me the wrong way how she was either smoking weed or drinking in every single scene as her partner is trying to stay sober.

6 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Or calling an album Let It Be

Grrr . . . that one was justifiable.

4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Grrr . . . that one was justifiable.

I agree, I just couldn’t pass on it 

9 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I’ve come to the conclusion that Isbell can be a self righteous prick regardless of his chemical state, but it definitely rubbed me the wrong way how she was either smoking weed or drinking in every single scene as her partner is trying to stay sober.

I think my take on this is that Isbell has terminal fat kid energy. Tyler, Sturgill - both those dudes have big dick energy. Jason Isbell is *probably* the smartest and best songwriter but deep inside he’s a fat kid.

17 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I’ve come to the conclusion that Isbell can be a self righteous prick regardless of his chemical state, but it definitely rubbed me the wrong way how she was either smoking weed or drinking in every single scene as her partner is trying to stay sober.

Yeah, that bothered me too.  Beyond that, he's just a superior writer.  He was agonizing over tense and other composition details and she couldn't be bothered to care.  The guy has a degree in English, he's not unaware.

17 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

I think my take on this is that Isbell has terminal fat kid energy. Tyler, Sturgill - both those dudes have big dick energy. Jason Isbell is *probably* the smartest and best songwriter but deep inside he’s a fat kid.

That is so fucking accurate 

He was vaping a lot in that thing too and plenty of videos since. I’m not going to assume what either of them were smoking. 

As an alcoholic myself, I feel like if I had a normal drinking wife or one who had a healthy relationship with weed, it would be no big deal for me now fucking years into continuous sobriety. The anxiety thing though - addicts/alcoholics usually have this kind of anxiety or rage or whatever the manifestation is of how they can’t handle lack of control and needing everything to be just so and etc, and this is why recovery is so involved with stuff that is more complicated than “don’t use”. You have to rewire your brain so that you can exist as a sober person without needing to lean on your crutch or you’ll just be crawling out of your skin. And whenever I see her on the doc or in an interview or whatever she looks like she’s about to crawl out of her skin, she looks like how I felt before sobriety, and that shit puts me on edge. I couldn’t live with that.

Shires interview with Rhett, maybe I’m being “unkind” to her as she seems in pretty OK shape here on the anxious scale. Kinda interesting clip on Wish the Worst.

 

you guys are very polite.


Shires seems like a giant pain in the fucking ass, and I'm willing to wager he's infinitely happier without her.

It was four days after Father’s Day. Midway through the Drive-By Truckers‘ informal late-night acoustic show in their hometown of Athens, Georgia, their 23-year-old guitarist and budding songwriter named Jason Isbell decided to premiere a song he’d just written as a Father’s Day gift for his dad.

That song was called “Outfit,” and the performance that followed that night at the Flicker Bar — the first time, as far as the band can remember, that Isbell ever performed the song — would end up becoming a piece of Drive-By Truckers’ history. 

The live “Outfit” is a revelation: You can hear the audience react in real time to the first few lines, cheering along as Isbell sets the scene of a young couple conceiving a child in the back seat of a Mustang in the first verse. In the second verse, you can hear Isbell still tinkering with the verse melody. By the time he’s singing about “a bucket of wealthy man’s paint,” the crowd roars back in affirmation.

“The perspective of that song is maybe not as earnest as a lot of people take it to be,” Isbell told the writer Stephen Deusner for the reissue’s liner notes. “I’m not trying to tell everyone how they should raise their children. I’ve written a lot of advice songs, because that is a very Southern tradition to me. But not all that advice is good advice, because I’m trying to create characters and paint a picture of people. Looking back, the arrangement’s so bizarre. It loops back in on itself in a really weird way. But I was trying to write a very particular kind of song for FAME to pitch to country singers, and I wanted to do the exact opposite of that with the Truckers. I was like, Let’s just make a mess. Let’s just roll around in it and let the song go wherever it wants to go.”

 

Someone should start a new thread for Isbell and Shires relationship talk

I was drunk af when I listened to it last night but Todd Snider's new album is... not good. At all.

57 minutes ago, Ten Bears said:

I was drunk af when I listened to it last night but Todd Snider's new album is... not good. At all.

Nope.

Last one sucked too.  He might be out of gas.

13 hours ago, Viper said:

on that note, anyone checked out Ryan Adams re-recording Heartbreaker? I didn't care for it.

Didn’t even know it was released. Why mess with excellence. 

I’ve seen reports about him being a fucking mess on his latest tour. Even for someone who was metoo’d and was always a piece of shit it’s crazy how much he’s lost it.

 

 

I wish Waxahatchee had opened for Rilo Kiley on the NC leg of their tour.

watching the world series pregame.

Freddie Freeman and Jason must have the same dentist.

the fuck is that bass

 

ok yeah, Gibson grabber bass, similar but not identical to the ripper played by Rick Danko

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yeah, I got a notification that he's playing out here...one of the spots is a casino in Temecula. Nice theater.   I'll try to get tix.

Weird, I was just watching Isbell on Nora Jones's youtube channel and he has a half full mug of what appears to be beer. Could be near beer of course but it was a startling image.

 

Screenshot_20251029_182309_YouTube.jpg

Looks like water to me. I think the color is the floor through the glass. 

50 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Looks like water to me. I think the color is the floor through the glass. 

Yeah, I can’t imagine he’d casually just start drinking again on film.  Sobriety is a HUGE part of his brand, and he’s an actual alcoholic.

1 minute ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Yeah, I can’t imagine he’d casually just start drinking again on film.  Sobriety is a HUGE part of his brand, and he’s an actual alcoholic.

They’ve got Sark drinking again on the football board…..  

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