August 22, 20196 yr 4 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said: Bama is a significantly bigger brand than Texas. No one would have said that 15 years ago. Jesus, they lost a coach to fucking aggy. In 15 years from now, damn good chance we are a much bigger brand.
August 22, 20196 yr Texas still outsells Bama when it isn't winning... in no universe is Bama a "bigger brand" https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Texas-Ohio-State-Alabama-Michigan-college-football-most-valuable-programs-128030289/ https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/ https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-much-is-your-college-football-team-worth-11546875092
August 22, 20196 yr You guys are responding to the current holder of the "Often Wrong but Never In Doubt" title. Dude is a terrible poster with terrible opinions, and he should feel terrible.
August 22, 20196 yr 10 hours ago, HtownHorn said: My hope is once they expand the playoffs to include every P5 champion, the Big 12 will drop the shitty conference championship game. There’s about 30 million reasons why they won’t. Oh, and the Big 12 may not be a conference by the time the playoff expands to 8.
August 22, 20196 yr 9 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said: There’s about 30 million reasons why they won’t. Oh, and the Big 12 may not be a conference by the time the playoff expands to 8. I'm looking forward to the day of the SEC super conference where we play aggy, LSU, arky, and OU every year.
August 22, 20196 yr 13 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said: This would be like asking who has the bigger brand, the Cowboys or the Patriots. But assume the Patriots had the historical success of Dallas, Pittsburgh and Green Bay combined. That’s Bama. Should we crowdfund a houndstooth suit and crimson tie for you? Bama can lick my nuts. Saban is winning on borrowed time.
August 22, 20196 yr Author 56 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said: Bama is a significantly bigger brand than Texas.
August 22, 20196 yr 19 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said: This would be like asking who has the bigger brand, the Cowboys or the Patriots. But assume the Patriots had the historical success of Dallas, Pittsburgh and Green Bay combined. That’s Bama. I mean, this just ain't true man. Bama will always be held back by being in Alabama, not Dallas or Boston or completely owning a major American region like Appalachia (in that NFL analogy). They're a huge brand, maybe bigger than UT at the moment in pure sporting terms. But they're not all that.
August 22, 20196 yr I think the Big 10 getting left out again this year would also hasten the expansion. That would be 3 consecutive years. And it's not even that far fetched. If UT or OU wins the Big 12 with one loss, they're in. No one is beating Clemson in the regular season. And if anyone beats Bama, that team and Bama are both likely in. With the amount of money, living alumni, etc that the Big 10 has, I don't think they're going to accept 3 straight years of being left out.
August 22, 20196 yr 46 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said: There’s about 30 million reasons why they won’t. Oh, and the Big 12 may not be a conference by the time the playoff expands to 8. Expanding the playoffs to 8 would all but guarantee that OU or UT never leave the Big 12 (permanently stabilizing the status quo). And if they moved before that, you'd see the 4x16 realignment junky wet dream and have no reason to expand. Edited August 22, 20196 yr by Al_4_ISU
August 22, 20196 yr 25 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said: Ironic lulz. You were provided links to independent valuations of various college football programs as well as a link to their most recent total athletic revenues. In both cases the University of Texas was higher than Alabama. This is within the current environment where Alabama is in the middle of perhaps the greatest run of success in college football history and Texas is at the (hopefully) tail end of one of the shittier decades in its program's history. And this doesn't even get into the fact that the brand of a university and its athletic program is bigger than just football. It's already been proven that your opinion was factually incorrect and that you're a moron. The fact that you're internet laughing at my pointing it out just strengthens my argument. Edited August 22, 20196 yr by Huckleberry
August 22, 20196 yr Author 41 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: You were provided links to independent valuations of various college football programs as well as a link to their most recent total athletic revenues. In both cases the University of Texas was higher than Alabama. This is within the current environment where Alabama is in the middle of perhaps the greatest run of success in college football history and Texas is at the (hopefully) tail end of one of the shittier decades in its program's history. And this doesn't even get into the fact that the brand of a university and its athletic program is bigger than just football. It's already been proven that your opinion was factually incorrect and that you're a moron. The fact that you're internet laughing at my pointing it out just strengthens my argument.
August 22, 20196 yr Can you fucks please stop quoting Rex Kramer. Changing his username hasn't changed his IQ, and some of us would rather avoid his drivel.
August 22, 20196 yr Just now, Reynolds Woodcock said: Can you fucks please stop quoting Rex Kramer. Changing his username hasn't changed his IQ, and some of us would rather avoid his drivel. Now it all makes sense
August 22, 20196 yr Heard a podcast that Rece Davis appeared on and the host questioned him on voting Aggy 6th in the preseason top 25. His response was basically, "I love Jimbo Fisher. I think they might go 2-3 against Clemson, Bama, LSU, Georgia, Auburn, but they could go 3-2 and have no other stumbles and then they'll be in the conversation for the playoff." I like Rece but if Aggy goes 10-2 I'll eat my hat. Edited August 22, 20196 yr by LonghornSean
August 22, 20196 yr 6 hours ago, ztejas said: Yes. Gata, OU and Texas were clearly the 3 best teams in the country that season. Maybe there would have been drama regarding the fourth spot but I'm not sure 2008 is the best example. I doubt anyone wins a 4 team playoff save one of those 3 that season. (we were closer to a Texas/OU rematch than either B12 team being left out of the top 4 in any final poll) There was a huge gulf between Bammer and Texas. The only controversy would have been do we take SC or do we take Bama for the 4th spot? Bama had one good win on the season and lost H2H in the SEC title game against Gata. That was the year they proceeded to lose to Utah in the Sugar Bowl. SC had one good win (tOSU in week 2) and a bad loss@ Beaver. Texas had the best win and best loss of any of the 1 loss teams. Easily. (also a shit kicking of Mizzou and a win against 7th ranked OSU) in 2008 USC gets the 4th slot as a reigning dynasty + Conf Champ.
August 22, 20196 yr 5 hours ago, Dr. Beeper said: Bama is a significantly bigger brand than Texas. you don't understand how brands work
August 22, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, notre dame joe said: in 2008 USC gets the 4th slot as a reigning dynasty + Conf Champ. They definitely should have gotten it because they were better than Alabama, too. In fact in all honesty I think Texas/USC in 2008 is a pick'em and I loved our 2008 team.
September 3, 20196 yr Texas moves up one spot to #9 https://www.apnews.com/APTop25CollegeFootballPoll 1. Clemson (1-0) 2. Alabama (1-0) 3. Georgia (1-0) 4. Oklahoma (1-0) 5. Ohio State (1-0) 6. LSU (1-0) 7. Michigan (1-0) 8. Notre Dame (1-0) 9. Texas (1-0) 10. Auburn (1-0) 11. Florida (1-0) 12. Texas A&M (1-0) 13. Utah (1-0) 14. Washington (1-0) 15. Penn State (1-0) 16. Oregon (0-1) 17. Wisconsin (1-0) 18. UCF (1-0) 19. Michigan State (1-0) 20. Iowa (1-0) 21. Syracuse (1-0) 22. Washington State (1-0) 23. Stanford (1-0) 24. Boise State (1-0) 25. Nebraska (1-0) Edited September 3, 20196 yr by Hiphopopotamos
September 3, 20196 yr 3 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said: Texas moves up one spot to #9 https://www.apnews.com/APTop25CollegeFootballPoll Procedural question - with Nebraska and Iowa State having the same number of points, how did they decide UNL gets #25?
September 3, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, texifornia said: Procedural question - with Nebraska and Iowa State having the same number of points, how did they decide UNL gets #25? If it takes you 3 Ot’s to win against a FCS team.... you lose the tie-breaker?
September 3, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, texifornia said: Procedural question - with Nebraska and Iowa State having the same number of points, how did they decide UNL gets #25? Name on the helmet. I can't bitch much, I wouldn't have put us in the Top 25.
September 3, 20196 yr 3 minutes ago, texifornia said: Procedural question - with Nebraska and Iowa State having the same number of points, how did they decide UNL gets #25? They didn't. Both are listed as (tied at) #25. Were they showing it wrong at first? Edited September 3, 20196 yr by Huckleberry
September 3, 20196 yr Just now, Huckleberry said: They didn't. Both are listed as (tied at) #25. Were they showing it wrong at first? I heard we fell out.
September 3, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, Huckleberry said: They didn't. Both are listed as (tied at) #25. Were they showing it wrong at first? Yes. When I first copied the link they had Iowa State in the 'other receiving votes' section.
September 3, 20196 yr Last I checked Bowlsby doesn't hand over that coveted big12 trophy fer rankings
September 3, 20196 yr On 8/22/2019 at 9:27 AM, 'stache said: Win your damn conference to make the playoff. It's that fucking simple. Yeah, sometimes a "better" team will be left out, but newsflash, that shit happens in pro sports all the time. How many Western Conference teams in the NBA are left out which are better than the bottom half of the Eastern Conference playoff seeds? Shit happens, but at least its objective. Well, my problem with that argument is that it's inconsistently applied. In '08, Texas beat OU head-to-head on a neutral field, and our only loss was a last-play-from-scrimmage loss on the road to a top-10 team. We had tougher schedule, "better" loss, and won head-to-head vs OU, and would have won conference tiebreaker in every P5 league except the big 12. In the Tech-OU-Texas round-robin, we were the only team that didn't play a true home game, and OU was the only team that didn't play a true road game. We were told, "None of that matters. Win your league or STFU." A couple years later, Bama finds themselves in an end-of-year beauty contest, in a year when they didn't play in their conference championship game -- a year where they scored six fucking points in a home loss -- and virtually nobody in the fucking media made that point, and Bama got a mulligan. It's another example of how the "SEC! SEC!" bullshit is self-fulfilling, just like ranking 6 of their teams in the top-12 to start every season.
September 3, 20196 yr 14 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said: I heard we fell out. Week 1 and all but I would certainly have a hard time putting ISU above OSU on my ballot. But ISU has a chance to make a statement this weekend for sure.
September 3, 20196 yr Just now, Skipper said: Week 1 and all but I would certainly have a hard time putting ISU above OSU on my ballot. But ISU has a chance to make a statement this weekend for sure. Yeah, I'd put OK State ahead of us too. If we beat Iowa, I'd flip it.
September 3, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, Paul Wesley said: Well, my problem with that argument is that it's inconsistently applied. In '08, Texas beat OU head-to-head on a neutral field, and our only loss was a last-play-from-scrimmage loss on the road to a top-10 team. We had tougher schedule, "better" loss, and won head-to-head vs OU, and would have won conference tiebreaker in every P5 league except the big 12. In the Tech-OU-Texas round-robin, we were the only team that didn't play a true home game, and OU was the only team that didn't play a true road game. We were told, "None of that matters. Win your league or STFU." A couple years later, Bama finds themselves in an end-of-year beauty contest, in a year when they didn't play in their conference championship game -- a year where they scored six fucking points in a home loss -- and virtually nobody in the fucking media made that point, and Bama got a mulligan. It's another example of how the "SEC! SEC!" bullshit is self-fulfilling, just like ranking 6 of their teams in the top-12 to start every season. That was pre-playoff. For what it's worth, I believe that season was the "mock" season the first CFP committee played out and I believe their voting had us seeded #1.
September 3, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, Skipper said: That was pre-playoff. I'm aware of that, but it was still an end-of-year beauty contest in the hands of voters, and all these same arguments were in play.
September 3, 20196 yr 7 minutes ago, Paul Wesley said: Well, my problem with that argument is that it's inconsistently applied. In '08, Texas beat OU head-to-head on a neutral field, and our only loss was a last-play-from-scrimmage loss on the road to a top-10 team. We had tougher schedule, "better" loss, and won head-to-head vs OU, and would have won conference tiebreaker in every P5 league except the big 12. In the Tech-OU-Texas round-robin, we were the only team that didn't play a true home game, and OU was the only team that didn't play a true road game. We were told, "None of that matters. Win your league or STFU." A couple years later, Bama finds themselves in an end-of-year beauty contest, in a year when they didn't play in their conference championship game -- a year where they scored six fucking points in a home loss -- and virtually nobody in the fucking media made that point, and Bama got a mulligan. It's another example of how the "SEC! SEC!" bullshit is self-fulfilling, just like ranking 6 of their teams in the top-12 to start every season. It sounds like you should agree with me. Bama should have been out for not winning their damn conference. They would make all sorts of arguments why they were “better,” same as you’re 2009 example, but it would at least be consistent why both were excluded. Complain all you want about the tiebreaker in place at the time, but it was a written rule easy to apply. Shit happens. No beauty contests about who looks better. Apply the tie breakers as written, conference champs only. Like every other damn form of team sports.
September 3, 20196 yr 18 minutes ago, 'stache said: It sounds like you should agree with me. I'd probably have mixed feelings if there were a championship-or-no-playoff rule. I definitely think that two of the top-4 teams could come from the same conference. That rule would probably protect teams that playoff-worthy, but don't have a blue-blood brand. For example, conference champion Oklahoma State getting zero love vs non-champion Bama. Or TCU/Baylor getting leapfrogged at the podium by Ohio State. (edit to add). Yes, I know that 2014 Ohio State was also a conference champion. Just saying: Blue-bloods have a huge built-in advantage in end-of-year polls and committee votes. Edited September 3, 20196 yr by Paul Wesley
September 3, 20196 yr There should never be any 0-1 teams in the top 20. Drop your first game, GTFO, and claw your way back in later on.
September 3, 20196 yr So, hypothetically, if we played LSU in Week 1 and lost by 1 point, you think we should drop out of the top 20? Behind teams that barely managed to win against an FCS opponent?
September 4, 20196 yr the upcoming tOSU vs. Cincy game might reveal something about the Bucks. Cincy is pretty good, won't win , but could make the Bucks think about things.
September 4, 20196 yr 7 minutes ago, NowThis said: the upcoming tOSU vs. Cincy game might reveal something about the Bucks. Cincy is pretty good, won't win , but could make the Bucks think about things. Think? Think???? You think those jort sporting poontangs are capable of thinking?
September 4, 20196 yr 6 hours ago, SquishMitten said: So, hypothetically, if we played LSU in Week 1 and lost by 1 point, you think we should drop out of the top 20? Behind teams that barely managed to win against an FCS opponent? If we lose to a bunch of meth-addled, sister fucking, Slingblade-sounding, Waterboy-imitating, dropped-on-their-heads-repeatedly-as-babies, illiterate, swamp-dwelling, big-brothers-of-aggy our first game out, 21st place sounds right.
September 4, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, Dr. Beeper said: That’s one of those things that sounds cool in your head but incredibly dumb out loud. Let’s say LSU gets beat on a last second FG in a thriller against Texas in Week 1. You’re saying LSU ought to drop from 6 to at least 21? How about YOU GTFO with your basic populist horse hockey. If everyone is held to that specific standard then it works. If you can't prove you're a top 20 team with the rest of the season after week 1, that's on you. Edited September 4, 20196 yr by USMCHorn
September 4, 20196 yr The nature of a poll is generally to summarize the thoughts of a group. Imposing one person’s opinion on how everyone else should vote is almost, but not quite, 100% inconsistent with the idea of a poll. If someone wishes to publish his own top 20, the Internet awaits; go right ahead.
September 4, 20196 yr 11 hours ago, atomheartbevo said: If we lose to a bunch of meth-addled, sister fucking, Slingblade-sounding, Waterboy-imitating, dropped-on-their-heads-repeatedly-as-babies, illiterate, swamp-dwelling, big-brothers-of-aggy our first game out, 21st place sounds right. Ryben, pay attention, this is the way you gripe.
September 4, 20196 yr Is everyone in the universe hoping these two fuck up and don't make the playoffs?
September 4, 20196 yr 19 hours ago, USMCHorn said: Notre Dame is not a top 10 team but whatever. Texas used to always get the benefit of the doubt but 10 yrs in obscurity seems to have cured that. ND, not so much...I didn't see anything remotely top 10 in their performance against Louisville. I think the expression on Kelly's face toward the end of the 1st half against the Cardinals told the true story on ND this year.
September 4, 20196 yr 29 minutes ago, Zavala said: Is everyone in the universe hoping these two fuck up and don't make the playoffs? Not really. I would rather knock one out in the semis and the other in the finals.
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