August 27, 20196 yr 36 minutes ago, Iceman said: The best cheesesteak I've had is waay, waaaay, waaaaaay the fuck better than the best crabcakes I've had...and a shit-ton cheaper. Granted, it was in Philly and that's a hellova commute...but dayum a properly made cheesesteak is a glorious sammich. I had always grown up loving cheese steaks made with provolone or mozzarella and peppers/onion. Had to go to Philadelphia about 15 years ago and decided to try one of those famous Philly cheese steak places. Wait the line, get up and order, and when it comes out it has that fake ass processed cheese whiz shit on it. I asked the guy what the fuck is this and requested some real fucking cheese because I'm not eating fake ass cheese on a cheese steak. After much back and forth cursing I gave the sandwich to a kid that was behind me and left. Should have figured those uneducated, idiot rubes in Philadelphia would willingly choose processed fake cheese over the real deal.
August 27, 20196 yr Fried okra and onion rings. I love them both but am disappointed more times then not by the effort.
August 27, 20196 yr 13 hours ago, HenryJames said: So...all of them? Yea, think the overlying message is just that most restaurants are mediocre.
August 27, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, Junior Miller said: I had always grown up loving cheese steaks made with provolone or mozzarella and peppers/onion. Had to go to Philadelphia about 15 years ago and decided to try one of those famous Philly cheese steak places. Wait the line, get up and order, and when it comes out it has that fake ass processed cheese whiz shit on it. I asked the guy what the fuck is this and requested some real fucking cheese because I'm not eating fake ass cheese on a cheese steak. After much back and forth cursing I gave the sandwich to a kid that was behind me and left. Should have figured those uneducated, idiot rubes in Philadelphia would willingly choose processed fake cheese over the real deal. Pat's or Geno's?
August 27, 20196 yr Regardless of quality, cheez whiz is what goes on a Philly steak. Mozzarella or provolone may be better, but it ain't a Philly steak.
August 27, 20196 yr 23 hours ago, Junior Miller said: Lockhart BBQ. Can't tell if they've gotten shitty or the Texas BBQ game has been raised so far by the Franklin revolution that what we used to think was awesome is now shitty. That’s a good food I loved past tense. It always sucks now. I’ll probably say sushi. It’s really only good when it’s really, really good. Edited August 27, 20196 yr by USCATX
August 27, 20196 yr 33 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said: Pat's or Geno's? Geno's. Then walked across to Pat's and saw the same thing so went and ate something else. Funny how on the Fresh Prince they never mentioned cheese whiz.
August 27, 20196 yr 6 hours ago, Junior Miller said: I had always grown up loving cheese steaks made with provolone or mozzarella and peppers/onion. Had to go to Philadelphia about 15 years ago and decided to try one of those famous Philly cheese steak places. Wait the line, get up and order, and when it comes out it has that fake ass processed cheese whiz shit on it. I asked the guy what the fuck is this and requested some real fucking cheese because I'm not eating fake ass cheese on a cheese steak. After much back and forth cursing I gave the sandwich to a kid that was behind me and left. Should have figured those uneducated, idiot rubes in Philadelphia would willingly choose processed fake cheese over the real deal. So...you never ate it, but decided it sucks???
August 27, 20196 yr 7 hours ago, Junior Miller said: Geno's. Then walked across to Pat's and saw the same thing so went and ate something else. Funny how on the Fresh Prince they never mentioned cheese whiz. That’s like going to Texas and eating at Dickey’s. The only upside is going to the Cannoli King afterwards. (Add cannolis to this list) I had Jim’s Steaks last weekend in Philly and it was good. There is a place called Shorty’s in the FiDi, a short walk from my office, that is very good. Most of the time the meat is bland and dry. Tony Luke’s fits that bill. The sandwich sounds good on paper but it’s rare that I’m impressed with the dripping mess. And sharp provolone and American are acceptable cheeses to use for a proper cheesesteak.
August 27, 20196 yr That’s like going to Texas and eating at Dickey’s. The only upside is going to the Cannoli King afterwards. (Add cannolis to this list) I had Jim’s Steaks last weekend in Philly and it was good. There is a place called Shorty’s in the FiDi, a short walk from my office, that is very good. Most of the time the meat is bland and dry. Tony Luke’s fits that bill. The sandwich sounds good on paper but it’s rare that I’m impressed with the dripping mess. And sharp provolone and American are acceptable cheeses to use for a proper cheesesteak. Not to mention he’s a fucking idiot because even at both those places you can order American or provolone as part of the process.
August 27, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, Iceman said: So...you never ate it, but decided it sucks??? Peak Surly.
August 27, 20196 yr 10 hours ago, TwiceHorn said: Regardless of quality, cheez whiz is what goes on a Philly steak. Mozzarella or provolone may be better, but it ain't a Philly steak. Depends on what part of Philly I think. Delaware Subs still has the best Philly I ever had. Unfortunately there is only one location left and it is on Mesa. A close 2nd is Sacoone's Pizza on 620. They are Jersey style sandwiches and are delicious. Neither of these offer fake cheez whiz.
August 27, 20196 yr 10 hours ago, Junior Miller said: I had always grown up loving cheese steaks made with provolone or mozzarella and peppers/onion. Had to go to Philadelphia about 15 years ago and decided to try one of those famous Philly cheese steak places. Wait the line, get up and order, and when it comes out it has that fake ass processed cheese whiz shit on it. I asked the guy what the fuck is this and requested some real fucking cheese because I'm not eating fake ass cheese on a cheese steak. After much back and forth cursing I gave the sandwich to a kid that was behind me and left. Should have figured those uneducated, idiot rubes in Philadelphia would willingly choose processed fake cheese over the real deal. None of this happened.
August 27, 20196 yr There is no wider gap than between "how good barbecue can be" and "how barbecue usually is."
August 27, 20196 yr 7 minutes ago, BHMCruiser said: There is no wider gap than between "how good barbecue can be" and "how barbecue usually is." Pizza says Chiao......
August 27, 20196 yr 4 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said: Pizza says Chiao...... Disagree. Even really bad pizza is usually okay. But bad barbecue is disgusting and infuriating. Furthermore, the best barbecue is WAY WAY WAY better than the best pizza. So the gap is wider.
August 27, 20196 yr 6 minutes ago, BHMCruiser said: Disagree. Even really bad pizza is usually okay. But bad barbecue is disgusting and infuriating. Furthermore, the best barbecue is WAY WAY WAY better than the best pizza. So the gap is wider. Well sorry amigo, because bad pizza sucks ass thru a straw and is not OK. And nope, the best BBQ is not way better than the best pizza. BBQ has basically one main flavor, pizza can combine several at once, for a much more complex flavor experience, and I love BBQ. Of course its all personal choice, and your results may vary. Edited August 27, 20196 yr by Onboard 2.0
August 27, 20196 yr 49 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said: Well sorry amigo, because bad pizza sucks ass thru a straw and is not OK. And nope, the best BBQ is not way better than the best pizza. BBQ has basically one main flavor, pizza can combine several at once, for a much more complex flavor experience, and I love BBQ. Of course its all personal choice, and your results may vary. where do you live? because you sound like a yankee
August 27, 20196 yr I’ll take great BBQ and great TexMex over the best pizza. I love pizza, and I agree with not eating shitty pizza, but the good stuff is not better than great Cue or a plate of proper enchimiladas. Edited August 27, 20196 yr by Iceman
August 27, 20196 yr 51 minutes ago, BHMCruiser said: where do you live? because you sound like a yankee There's no need for name callin' here. Pizza, and BBQ are both in my top 5 realm of foods, but Tex Mex is down is more like the top 20. Great seafood is king... long live the king.
August 27, 20196 yr 5 hours ago, Surly Bevo said: Not to mention he’s a fucking idiot because even at both those places you can order American or provolone as part of the process. I thought everyone on this board knew that by now.
August 27, 20196 yr 6 hours ago, Surly Bevo said: Not to mention he’s a fucking idiot because even at both those places you can order American or provolone as part of the process. Either they didn't have that option at the time I went or the guy got pissed and didn't let me know after I said "what the fuck is this?" I didn't know they did that so I was surprised.
August 27, 20196 yr largest deltas: seafood (not the fried stuff) smoked meats/centex bbq xiao long baos paella scrambled eggs
August 27, 20196 yr Scrambled eggs is a good call for something so damn simple. Restaurant chips & salsa is mine, so damn rare to find good stuff.
August 27, 20196 yr Speaking of eggs - Omelettes. Seems a lot of places will over cook the eggs and you end up with brown, dried out eggs.
August 28, 20196 yr 8 hours ago, Underdog said: You didn’t say shit, quit your lying. You ate what they gave you and enjoyed it. I was 22, in Philadelphia to play an exhibition game, and full of T. I'm a lot calmer now but I still would never eat nasty ass fake cheese.
August 28, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, Deej said: Never had nachos at a baseball game? The most over rated food in the world way too often. Mind you I live in the Mid Atlantic region.
August 28, 20196 yr On 8/26/2019 at 10:02 PM, Surly Bevo said: Pat's or Geno's? wasn't really impressed with either, frankly. beef wasn't particularly well seasoned. gimme my mustard blend.
August 28, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, Deej said: Never had nachos at a baseball game? Or a proper stadium frito pie?
August 28, 20196 yr 13 hours ago, BHMCruiser said: where do you live? because you sound like a yankee virginia or maryland or some other place with shit barbecue. and he probably puts mayonnaise on it because he loves that shit.
August 28, 20196 yr On 8/26/2019 at 2:49 PM, Wiler77 said: Steak. Like a steakhouse steak. It's either under seasoned and/or overcooked. I've stopped ordering steaks at steakhouses, and as a result very rarely eat one anymore. I’m going to have to second this as the most disappointing and when you factor in the cost to expectation ratio, it’s probably not even close. You fuck up a fast food order and I’m pissed but oh well, it was like a $5 fuckup. You fuck up a $50 steak and I’m really let down. I’d say about ⅓ of the steaks from a steakhouse are great and ⅔ are somewhere between average to disappointing. Hell, I think I’ve probably sent back about ⅓ of them because they’re cooked wrong or a bad cut. Even at some of the best places, I’d say they get it wrong about 1 out of 4 times. Sadly, unlike @Wiler77, it hasn’t made me stop. My dumb ass just keeps doubling down hoping for the best.
August 28, 20196 yr 17 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said: Peach Cobbler Feijoada King Ranch Casserole King Ranch casserole sounds like a fabulous south Texas native dish and turns out to be bland, homogenous crap. Good call, Patricio Swayze
August 28, 20196 yr King Ranch casserole sounds like a fabulous south Texas native dish and turns out to be bland, homogenous crap. Good call, Patricio SwayzeI can only think of a couple of times I have gotten it at a restaurant and been truly happy. Would rather make it home or have my mom make it.
August 28, 20196 yr 8 hours ago, elfenix said: wasn't really impressed with either, frankly. beef wasn't particularly well seasoned. gimme my mustard blend. The best sandwich in Philly is DiNic's.
August 28, 20196 yr On 8/27/2019 at 6:03 AM, Spankytoes said: That’s like going to Texas and eating at Dickey’s. The only upside is going to the Cannoli King afterwards. (Add cannolis to this list) I had Jim’s Steaks last weekend in Philly and it was good. There is a place called Shorty’s in the FiDi, a short walk from my office, that is very good. Most of the time the meat is bland and dry. Tony Luke’s fits that bill. The sandwich sounds good on paper but it’s rare that I’m impressed with the dripping mess. And sharp provolone and American are acceptable cheeses to use for a proper cheesesteak. Is it? I don't see a Pat's in every fucking strip mall in the country.
August 28, 20196 yr Fajitas. IMO, the skillet should be smoking hot, and the onions should be caramelized. Believe it or not, the two best fajita plates I've had in the past 20 years were in Knoxville. Though, I will add the disclaimer that one of them was a molcajete-style fajita.
August 28, 20196 yr On 8/25/2019 at 10:56 PM, CurlyDumps said: Bloody Marys. Salt on the rim is the first sign it’s gonna let you down. This may be better for the unpopular opinion's thread, but I absolutely cannot stand a fancy Bloody Mary. I just want Vodka, a cheap to mediocre store bought mixer and a traditional garnish of celery (even though I'd prefer a lime). Salt on the rim is a red flag for me, too. More red flags are pickles, olives, and basically any shit visibly floating in the glass that isn't ice. It's gotten to the point where the only place I'm able to enjoy a Bloody Mary's is at my house or on an airplane. Edited August 28, 20196 yr by dcbc
August 28, 20196 yr On 8/26/2019 at 2:49 PM, Wiler77 said: Steak. Like a steakhouse steak. It's either under seasoned and/or overcooked. I've stopped ordering steaks at steakhouses, and as a result very rarely eat one anymore. 1 hour ago, Landomatic said: I’m going to have to second this as the most disappointing and when you factor in the cost to expectation ratio, it’s probably not even close. You fuck up a fast food order and I’m pissed but oh well, it was like a $5 fuckup. You fuck up a $50 steak and I’m really let down. I’d say about ⅓ of the steaks from a steakhouse are great and ⅔ are somewhere between average to disappointing. Hell, I think I’ve probably sent back about ⅓ of them because they’re cooked wrong or a bad cut. Even at some of the best places, I’d say they get it wrong about 1 out of 4 times. Sadly, unlike @Wiler77, it hasn’t made me stop. My dumb ass just keeps doubling down hoping for the best. Yep; all of both of these. Thanks to the sage advice of The Shag The Surl and the "I Pledge to Post More Pictures of This Steak" thread, my steak game has gotten to the point where I'm producing much better results for substantially cheaper than most steakhouses. I don't order it anymore either. Edited August 28, 20196 yr by Dutch
August 28, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, dcbc said: This may be better for the unpopular opinion's thread, but I absolutely cannot stand a fancy Bloody Mary. I just want Vodka, a cheap to mediocre store bought mixer and a traditional garnish of celery (even though I'd prefer a lime). Salt on the rim is a red flag for me, too. More red flags are pickles, olives, and basically any shit visibly floating in the glass that isn't ice. A lot of places disguise a bad Bloody Mary with excess garnish, but lack of garnish is an equally bad sign. There's an appropriate amount, and is limited to the following items: pickled vegetables, olives, cheese, cured meat. Beyond that, and you're out of line. My favorite Bloody Mary will contain the following: -Vodka -Campbell's or Sacramento tomato juice -Worcestershire sauce -A1 -Tabasco -Horseradish -Pickle juice -Cavender's -Black pepper -Celery salt Garnish with an olive, pickle, and cheese hunk on a stick suspended atop the drink. Chase with an 8 oz pour of a simple, clean, but not shitty beer.
August 28, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, Al_4_ISU said: A lot of places disguise a bad Bloody Mary with excess garnish, but lack of garnish is an equally bad sign. There's an appropriate amount, and is limited to the following items: pickled vegetables, olives, cheese, cured meat. Beyond that, and you're out of line. My favorite Bloody Mary will contain the following: -Vodka -Campbell's or Sacramento tomato juice -Worcestershire sauce -A1 -Tabasco -Horseradish -Pickle juice -Cavender's -Black pepper -Celery salt Garnish with an olive, pickle, and cheese hunk on a stick suspended atop the drink. Chase with an 8 oz pour of a simple, clean, but not shitty beer. It's entirely possible that I'm a most uncultured plebe when it comes to the topic, but I've been to some nice places, which, I'm told, do it right, and I've always been disappointed to the point of not wanting to finish it. What you posted may be the best Bloody Mary ever, but I've been burned so many times, I probably wouldn't order it, except for the "not shitty beer."
August 28, 20196 yr 8 hours ago, elfenix said: virginia or maryland or some other place with shit barbecue. and he probably puts mayonnaise on it because he loves that shit. You can bite me Sparky. I detest mayonnaise unless there's a shitload of horseradish mixed in. PRO TIP: Good BBQ needs no additional sauce, you're welcome.
August 28, 20196 yr 10 minutes ago, dcbc said: It's entirely possible that I'm a most uncultured plebe when it comes to the topic, but I've been to some nice places, which, I'm told, do it right, and I've always been disappointed to the point of not wanting to finish it. What you posted may be the best Bloody Mary ever, but I've been burned so many times, I probably wouldn't order it, except for the "not shitty beer." Bloody Marys are borderline religion in this part of the world, but you're right in that places that tend to try to fancy it up often fuck it up and over complicate things. What I'm posting is something you would find in a Midwestern dive bar where people show up at 10AM on Sunday and call it "going to church".
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