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    Has any Penn State coach ever fallen from grace like this??

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  • El Hornarino
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    I continue to support Franklin as Penn State's head coach and hope they give him at least another few years to turn it around.

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2 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

When asked for comment, the Penn State administration replied, “This is just one more reason why we wish we had hired Larry Nassar to be our team physician years ago.”

Advantage: Michigan State?

2 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

When asked for comment, the Penn State administration replied, “This is just one more reason why we wish we had hired Larry Nassar to be our team physician years ago.”

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He seems like such an upstanding good guy and not a total piece of shit. 

From 2014

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/10858666/james-franklin-contacted-alleged-rape-victim-vanderbilt-commodores

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In the filing, the defense says Franklin and strength coach Dwight Galt -- who left Vanderbilt for the same jobs at Penn State this winter -- talked to the accuser during a medical examination four days after the rape.

Franklin and Galt told the woman "that they cared about her because she assisted them with recruiting," according to the filing. Later, the defense said, "Coach Franklin called her in for a private meeting and told her he wanted her to get 15 pretty girls together and form a team to assist with the recruiting even though he knew it was against the rules."

According to The Tennessean, Franklin "added that all the other colleges did it."

 

Between fucking little boys, finger banging gymnasts, getting free tattoos, supporting women beating, and not “playing school” the BIG 10 is not a place for academic prowess or grooming the youth of America.

2 minutes ago, DaggerHorns said:

Between fucking little boys, finger banging gymnasts, getting free tattoos, supporting women beating, and not “playing school” the BIG 10 is not a place for academic prowess or grooming the youth of America.

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38 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

When asked for comment, the Penn State administration replied

"...OK, this looks bad, but-- I mean, he didn't rape any young boys or anything."

57 minutes ago, suddenly shaggy said:

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Well somebody topped it.

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"...OK, this looks bad, but-- I mean, he didn't rape any young boys or anything."

 

Welp... kiss his recruiting class good bye if this gets pushed to the recruits mamas

I hope the physician who filed suit has a security team. IIRC, one of the assistant DAs that was investigating Paterno, Sandusky, and Penn State in the early 2000s went missing by a river. His laptop was found downriver with the hard drive missing.

There's probably no greater recruiting killer than a finding that you were pressing your team doctor to clear injured players.  To the players, that's about the worst thing a coach can do.  It shows he's not concerned with you at all.   He's got to leave if this proves true. 

It really is amazing that Cain was torn enough between Penn State and Texas, that Herman said don't pick us in a phone call before Cain announced.

5 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

There's probably no greater recruiting killer than a finding that you were pressing your team doctor to clear injured players.  To the players, that's about the worst thing a coach can do.  It shows he's not concerned with you at all.   He's got to leave if this proves true. 

 

22 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

There's probably no greater recruiting killer than a finding that you were pressing your team doctor to clear injured players. 

checks bouncing, that might have been what triggered SMU's demise

I always kinda got a douchebag vibe from James Franklin but couldn’t quite put my thumb on it. For some reason this doesn’t surprise me.

2 minutes ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

I always kinda got a douchebag vibe from James Franklin but couldn’t quite put my thumb on it. For some reason this doesn’t surprise me.

He dropped a pretty big hint when he admitted in an interview that he looks at how hot assistant coaches' wives are when making hiring decisions. (Reflects on their recruiting/closing abilities) 

Not necessarily against this in theory, but it takes a douchebag to boast about it in an interview.

This year is critical for Penn State's recruiting going forward (more so than each season is for every school). They've been taking a ton of backup plans for 2020, and they'll miss out on top in state recruits (and ones from NJ, MD, VA, DC) to Bama, tOSU, Clemson, etc. again in 2021 if they go 9-3 or worse. I think Franklin will be able to deflect this on the recruiting trail without much of a negative effect. 

Starting to think they may have an institutional problem there. /ncaa

File it away as will never happen, but it would be hilarious to see Franklin get fired, Elko to get the job, and flip all those Jersey kids from aggy.

4 hours ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

There's probably no greater recruiting killer than a finding that you were pressing your team doctor to clear injured players. 

Apparently, raping little boys wasn't enough to kill recruiting. 

Frankin was Shawn Watson type bad as an OC.  I mean most coordinators aren’t allowed to suck that long.   If his recruiting goes, they are fucked.  

1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

File it away as will never happen, but it would be hilarious to see Franklin get fired, Elko to get the job, and flip all those Jersey kids from aggy.

Pleasepleaseplease.

Maybe he can go to work for urban meyer at usc when he gets dismissed for cause.

Except he wont because Ohio state and Penn state care more about football than humans. Yankee baylor.

It still makes me cringe when I’m with someone who says they went to Penn State.

Part of the collateral damage...but it’s there.

 

28 minutes ago, Tailgate said:

It still makes me cringe when I’m with someone who says they went to Penn State.

Part of the collateral damage...but it’s there.

 

When we were hiring a few years ago, I personally blackballed an applicant who had a PSU degree and I still feel OK about it. 

16 hours ago, DaggerHorns said:

Between fucking little boys, finger banging gymnasts, getting free tattoos, supporting women beating, and not “playing school” the BIG 10 is not a place for academic prowess or grooming the youth of America.

Bah. Their just rusty.

15 hours ago, Laxtonto said:

Welp... kiss his recruiting class good bye if this gets pushed to the recruits mamas

Got any Running Backs on the list?

 

12 hours ago, crash_davis said:

Big 10 is trying to outdo SEC in sleaze.

Penn State single handedly won that with sandusky. Now PSU is aiming for the cherry on top.

40 minutes ago, Izhmash said:

Got any Running Backs on the list?

Certainly there is one that picked PSU over Texas last year. Noah Cain?

 

9 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

When we were hiring a few years ago, I personally blackballed an applicant who had a PSU degree and I still feel OK about it. 

So you prevented someone, that more than likely is disgusted by what happened, from getting a job because members of the administration and athletic staff at that school were pieces of shit and you like to hold a grudge against the school for it? You seem like a pretty level headed person outside of this so I’m going to assume that they were otherwise unqualified for the job and you just like to claim that this is the reason they  were cut from the running. If not, you’re a piece of shit. But no doubt you’ll get plenty of pats on the back for it in here. 

Looks like an opening for Matt Campbell is opening up.

Or does Cristobal move over from Oregon?

1 hour ago, heso said:

So you prevented someone, that more than likely is disgusted by what happened, from getting a job because members of the administration and athletic staff at that school were pieces of shit and you like to hold a grudge against the school for it? You seem like a pretty level headed person outside of this so I’m going to assume that they were otherwise unqualified for the job and you just like to claim that this is the reason they  were cut from the running. If not, you’re a piece of shit. But no doubt you’ll get plenty of pats on the back for it in here. 

Yeah, this is horrible management behavior, but it's also a great example of the collateral damage that can result from such a massive tragedy. Like I'm sure a lot of people will never eat at Subway again regardless of the chain's behavior or quality post-Jared. And if Beau Vine is a POS, which I kind of doubt, then that applicant is better off not working there.

I can actually understand his sentiment more than the tOSU and Pitt fans trying to propagate anti-PSU threads on a Texas board year after year. So many links to the derpiest of PSU boards, or toothless "scandals" like the one to start this thread.

But since we're here, I think PSU loses at least 3 games this year, and Franklin will skate into a lower pressure job rather than keep treading water as the 3rd-5th best team in the league.

I guess not many people here had the misfortune of running into groups of Penn State fans after what came out in Happy Valley with Paterno, or in the following years. I had the misfortune on several occasions. To a person they were all in denial, and as time went on more and more of them that I've encountered have dismissed it entirely and gone back to canonizing a child rape enabling Joe Paterno. If you bring it up, they get real aggressive. Which suits me fine. 

I haven't yet, NOT ONCE, met a Baylor alum that has shown any embarrassment, contrition, or even acceptance of any wrongdoing that takes place at Baylor. Not even the women, although I'm sure there are PLENTY of women that do feel that way, considering that statistically there's a great chance many of them were victims of a culture designed to marginalize and attack women. But I haven't met one yet, and I live and work in Houston and I run into a lot of them. 

I can pick an aggy out of a a crowd at 50 paces, and aggy jokes exist for a reason. If you don't think that there are consistent traits that more often than not exist across different people because of a common cultural environment, then I don't know what the fuck to tell you. Maybe stop by the Zach Smith thread and ask Parliament to tell you how he feels about Courtney Smith. 

What I do know, is that if I have two candidates for a position and they are both similarly qualified, guess what, I'm going to err on the side of caution and hire the one that doesn't have ties to a fucking amoral institution that willingly and repeatedly allows innocent people to be victimized, and specifically raped. 

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4 minutes ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

Mt. Hushmore in South Dickota. 

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Just remember, our coaching choices after Mack finally left were Strong, Franklin, Fedora, and Gruden.  What a shit show of a coaching search by our proud and illustrious AD. 

 

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