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#1951
9 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

So the smoking gun is “evidence” Rudy got from Ukraine, after Ukraine was blackmailed by Trump, of which we have a phone call documented as evidence of the extortion. 
 

seems rock-solid. republicans will believe it anyway because they want to believe it. 

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#1956
27 minutes ago, Grade of D as in David said:

Being spit roasted by junior and Rudy while fish lips Guilfoyle sits in the corner rubbing her bean?

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#1957
51 minutes ago, Grade of D as in David said:

Being spit roasted by junior and Rudy while fish lips Guilfoyle sits in the corner rubbing her bean?

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#1958
10 hours ago, Celery Man said:

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A buddy of mine who went to TCU bumped into her at a bar in FW and said she was actually pretty fun and had some funny stories about becoming a meme /csb

#1959
Rudy Giuliani has HORRIFIC rizz

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#1964
8 hours ago, The Dog said:
Rudy Giuliani has HORRIFIC rizz

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The last two cut off: 

...they were 16 but looked 20.

xii:   "I think of you as my daughter.  Is that weird?" - which Giuliani said will engaging in sexual contact with Ms. Dunphy.  

 

#1967

5 should.  I can sort of understand that some mistakes can be made when the age is undetermined.  You can rot in a hole forever for 5.

#1969
21 hours ago, Red Five said:

Some pretty good lines in there. I'm gonna give them a shot.

Even when I think about how smart you are, I get hard. 

There's a man who understands the female psyche and realizes how important it is to respect their mind and intellect. 

#1970

Why isn’t he in jail ?

Rudy: “You can’t really tell the difference between the FBI, DOJ and the State Police in E. Germany or Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia or in China. They work at the behest of the Dictator.”

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#1971
On 6/8/2023 at 7:45 AM, Captainant said:

A buddy of mine who went to TCU bumped into her at a bar in FW and said she was actually pretty fun and had some funny stories about becoming a meme /csb

I was just reading up on her.  Didn't realize she's from Denton.

  • 2 weeks later...
#1972
Sources are telling me that Rudy Giuliani is have a meltdown and drinking heavily. After being sanctioned he fears that he is about to get indicted and doesn’t now who to turn to for help. It’s time to pay the piper Rudy! #LevRemembers

 

#1973
4 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:
Sources are telling me that Rudy Giuliani is have a meltdown and drinking heavily. After being sanctioned he fears that he is about to get indicted and doesn’t now who to turn to for help. It’s time to pay the piper Rudy! #LevRemembers

 

Is that the Fraud Guarantee guy?

#1974
18 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:
Sources are telling me that Rudy Giuliani is have a meltdown and drinking heavily. After being sanctioned he fears that he is about to get indicted and doesn’t now who to turn to for help. It’s time to pay the piper Rudy! #LevRemembers

 

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#1975
1 hour ago, Gil Bang said:
Sources are telling me that Rudy Giuliani is have a meltdown and drinking heavily. After being sanctioned he fears that he is about to get indicted and doesn’t now who to turn to for help. It’s time to pay the piper Rudy! #LevRemembers

 

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#1976
12 hours ago, Gil Bang said:
Sources are telling me that Rudy Giuliani is have a meltdown and drinking heavily. After being sanctioned he fears that he is about to get indicted and doesn’t now who to turn to for help. It’s time to pay the piper Rudy! #LevRemembers

 

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#1977
Jack Smith is reportedly criminally indicting Rudy Giuliani even after his proffer interview https://t.co/xDxJ4E23xQ

 

#1979
2 hours ago, The Dog said:
Jack Smith is reportedly criminally indicting Rudy Giuliani even after his proffer interview https://t.co/xDxJ4E23xQ

 

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#1980

Don't get your hopes up people. Rudy is two steps ahead of us.

He's just going to go hide out in Chinatown, because everybody knows China doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US. 

#1984
13 hours ago, Bookman said:

Further to this, here is the "opinion" of the DC Bar discipline committee.  https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23868906/2023-07-07-issuance-letter-and-hearing-committee-report-giuliani.pdf

It looks like the Board of Discipline has the opportunity to modify the findings of the committee before making a final ruling and then the Board's ruling is subject to court review.  But it's unclear what the standard of review may be, that is, a "do over" or a more restrained appeal-type review confined to error by the Committee or Board.

With these high-profile 1/6 lawyer disbarment proceedings, it has been interesting to see the "quasi judicial" processes of the various state bars.  It looks like DC and Cali (Giuliani and Eastman, respectively) have pretty judicial processes (formal hearings, rules of evidence, etc.) that are before "dedicated" (meaning discipline only) hearing panels.

Contrast this with Texas, which fairly recently switched its system to one of two tracks:  an informal hearing with a dedicated panel of attorneys and lay people, or, alternatively, a court trial in a district court of general jurisdiction (no special familiarity with the rules of conduct, etc.).

I didn't have a strong opinion on Texas' "new" system until this came up in the context of Sidney Powell's case.  I don't think I like it.  It seems to me that courts of general jurisdiction should have pretty limited involvement in disciplinary cases   Probably confined to a traditional appeal for legal and factual error.

 

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#1985
BREAKING overnight: Rudy Giuliani concedes in a court filing that he made “false” statements about Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss and no longer contests the factual allegations in their defamation lawsuit. Details TK

 

and some ridiculous spin:

Statement from Giuliani advisor Ted Goodman characterizes Giuliani’s stipulation as simply a way to move past the fact-gathering stage of the lawsuit and into the legal phase, where he can still try to dismiss the matter.

So the latter is how it will be played in the right-wing news bubble.

#1986

In other words, "look discovery would be incredibly fucking embarrassing and damaging so let's just all acknowledge that yes I defamed the shit out of y'all."

 

#1987

I pled guilty to robbing the convenience store so that we could move on to the sentencing phase where my attorney could file a motion to dismiss.

#1988

Not a bad move for Rudy.  Certainly more rationale than the strategy he employed in the election challenges.  It might also be sane to argue against damages with something along the lines of, "Look, everybody knows I'm shithouse crazy, so nobody really believed my bullshit lies, and therefore you weren't damaged." 

#1989

I am going to go ahead and predict Rudy's cranial oil lines are going to spring a leak again.

#1990
2 hours ago, The Dog said:
BREAKING overnight: Rudy Giuliani concedes in a court filing that he made “false” statements about Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss and no longer contests the factual allegations in their defamation lawsuit. Details TK

 

and some ridiculous spin:

Statement from Giuliani advisor Ted Goodman characterizes Giuliani’s stipulation as simply a way to move past the fact-gathering stage of the lawsuit and into the legal phase, where he can still try to dismiss the matter.

So the latter is how it will be played in the right-wing news bubble.

Some sort of 14D chess?

#1991
57 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

In other words, "look discovery would be incredibly fucking embarrassing and damaging so let's just all acknowledge that yes I defamed the shit out of y'all."

 

Legal questions: Is discovery required to occur?  Can this actually get him out of discovery?  Or can the judge require discovery even if the facts aren't disputed?

 

#1992
6 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Legal questions: Is discovery required to occur?  Can this actually get him out of discovery?  Or can the judge require discovery even if the facts aren't disputed?

 

apparently up to the judge:

Big remaining question: what is the damning discovery Rudy is hiding and trying to avoid producing? He has already been sanctioned by Judge Howell for this failure; now he is trying to say it is unnecessary as he is conceding the facts. Judge Howell won't fall for that. https://t.co/mKO642RxnN— Andrew Weissmann (weissmann11 on Threads/Insta)🌻 (@AWeissmann_)

 

#1993
5 hours ago, The Dog said:

apparently up to the judge:

Big remaining question: what is the damning discovery Rudy is hiding and trying to avoid producing? He has already been sanctioned by Judge Howell for this failure; now he is trying to say it is unnecessary as he is conceding the facts. Judge Howell won't fall for that. https://t.co/mKO642RxnN— Andrew Weissmann (weissmann11 on Threads/Insta)🌻 (@AWeissmann_)

 

Rudy agrees that the statements were defamatory per se.  Assuming the defamation suit was filed timely, the only thing left is for Rudy to find out how much he owes.

#1994

And holy shit- he is actually trying to say “OK, I lied my ass off, and none of this is true, but only for the purpose of this litigation…where I’m being sued for lying.”

That means the fucker will be saying it again the next chance he gets. 

#1995
12 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

And holy shit- he is actually trying to say “OK, I lied my ass off, and none of this is true, but only for the purpose of this litigation…where I’m being sued for lying.”

That means the fucker will be saying it again the next chance he gets. 

is that like some weird double jeopardy bullshit he's trying to pull or something? is there any substance behind this tactic?

#1996
8 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

is that like some weird double jeopardy bullshit he's trying to pull or something? is there any substance behind this tactic?

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#1997
8 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

is that like some weird double jeopardy bullshit he's trying to pull or something? is there any substance behind this tactic?

Well, alcohol is a substance…

#1999

Without admitting to the truth of the allegations, I don’t contest the statements where the plaintiff says I lied…

I understand that he is doing this in an effort not to give up documents.   I don’t know if punitive damages are in play in this particular state, but if they are, the egregiousness of the defamation and the knowledge of untruth should go to damages.  It seems to me the documents he does not want to give them would be relevant, if only for damages.

I have not followed this one, but I would be disappointed if the plaintiffs and the judge let him off the hook like this. Lets see what he has. 

 

#2000
1 minute ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I was told there were no dumb questions!

This is a safe space.  I’m no law dog, but admitting to the accusations would seem to be a non-winning strategy to me.

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