Jump to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

Surly Horns

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.
Football ... Basketball ... Baseball ... Other Sports ... Futbol ... 🤫995🤫 ... Gambling ... Movies & TV ... Music ... Hobbies ... Lulz ... Food & Travel ... Daily Texan ... Business & Markets ... Cloak Room ... Help ... For Sale ... Board Discussion ... Advertise... Tailgate Donations

Featured Replies

15 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

 

That considered, there is not a single thing to point to with this hire that points to the best guy out there getting the offer. There were no leaks on other names because there were no other interviews. Odom and Scalley were thrown out to look like work was being done. Not a single NFL staffer was researched. This has every hallmark of a sham hire by a fucking fraud of a HC. 

Yup.   And I know you don't think those tools at OB's have any sources but I figured this was a done deal as soon as Bianco or whomever told Fat Ketch to write an Ash puff piece like 10 days ago. I'm not going to say Ash will definitely suck, and hell, it can't get much worse, but I would have strongly preferred Odom.  This was definitely a sham 'search' from day 1.

  • Replies 11.7k
  • Views 1.5m
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Most Popular Posts

  • Minor Orangeblack
    Minor Orangeblack

    Blue Bell is announcing the release of a new flavor, Gordita Latina to be served exclusively at Texas Athletic facilities and DKR, it will feature hints of Canela, White Apples and Mexican vanilla. 

  • closetojumping
    closetojumping

    A few things: -If Harrell is the OC, and the rumors are legit but don’t take anything for granted until ink is dry, then Traylor could make a return. Herman would be admitting to a mistake in let

Posted Images

I have zero fucking knowledge of Odom’s thought process, but he seems like a macho dude, and I suspect no amount of money would allow him to ever work a day under Tom Backpack Herman, especially if he’s getting paid serious bank elsewhere.

I don't think Ash is necessarily a bad coach, but who on Earth would think he would be a good fit in today's Big 12?  This is going to be a big departure from the type of defense we've been running, so there could be an extended learning curve for the players, and it's a style of defense that may not be well suited to the Big 12 even if executed at a satisfactory level.  

Just now, GreenspointTexas said:

Could be worse

In a vacuum? Maybe. But as another bolt tacked onto the last 10 years of irrelevance and multiple instances of shit coaches given blank checkbooks and choosing to shop at the fucking dollar store for dented cans of Vienna sausages,  well, it feels pretty fucking shitty and hopeless to me. 

This goes beyond Herman being an arrogant prick that wants to hire the closest guy next to him because he knows everything. CDC was fighting a real push to get rid of Herman right now. If we get an Ash/Long combo or something like it our AD can rightfully go fuck himself too. If things go as I think most here are predicting CDC should not be allowed to hire our next coach without adult supervision. 

OSU fans want him. We don't want him. Sounds like I'm just gunna watch it play out. He either helps us get back to Dallas and hopefully to a playoff, or he helps lead Tom out the door via suck.

My body is ready.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Ash went 8-32 as the head coach at Rutgers. 

Ok?

1 minute ago, Neonmoon said:

The Big 12 is going to eat Ash 

They certainly took an Orlando vacation.

 

Quote

Ash went 8-32 as the head coach at Rutgers

Good thing he's not going to be the head coach here.

Edited by Cajun

Ash went 8-32 as the head coach at Rutgers. 



We’re Texas.
Anwar alluding to talent already at tOSU when Ash hired there...
 
Here are some essential Chris Ash stats from his time as an defensive coordinator at Ohio State. He wasn't the DC in 2013, but it shows what he inherited

EL2E3sQWwAIu9r9?format=jpg&name=900x900

Edited by LTtxfan

Put me in the camp that this is a good hire. Not because it will help Herman turn this program into an elite program with him at the helm, but that it will help reveal the truth of Herman.  His ego and superiority made him think he could get through this year with no coaching changes. His ego and superiority makes him think hiring a friend as opposed to the best at the position will cost him next year.  So I think the hire makes next year inevitable.  The good news is that hopefully we can maintain as it relates to recruiting and our next head coach won't have as big a hole as Mack left Charlie and Charlie left Herman. 

Now let’s see Herman’s stats as OC at ohio state. Combine that with Ash and MNC in 2020.

Whoop!


1 minute ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

<Checks his track record at assembling a staff>

not good, bob

I'm sure the nation's top assistants were champing at the bit to go coach at Rutgers 

I'm sure the nation's top assistants were champing at the bit to go coach at Rutgers 



There is a silver lining for me. Not attending 2020 Texas football saves me a nice amount of money. I’m using it to upgrade my place in Jersey City. And yeah, Rutgers is ass.


1 minute ago, trythisathome said:

I'm sure the nation's top assistants were champing at the bit to go coach at Rutgers 

There is a gap between assembling what might be the worst staff ever assembled at a P5 program and having a staff of less than the primary option because of lack of brand value in Rutgers. But, whatever, fuck it, let’s see what this troglodyte puts together now that he has a massive brand behind him. Sure. Right. Fuck yeah, let’s go. 

Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

Could be raining

Also, nobody has died so far. Although actually, I’d be okay with some hypertargeted carnage, I guess. 

18 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

There is a gap between assembling what might be the worst staff ever assembled at a P5 program and having a staff of less than the primary option because of lack of brand value in Rutgers. But, whatever, fuck it, let’s see what this troglodyte puts together now that he has a massive brand behind him. Sure. Right. Fuck yeah, let’s go. 

depositphotos_21594215-stock-illustratio

Edited by LTtxfan

14 hours ago, GOAT said:

Pretty sure Charlie Strong is still available...

Well there are some BMDs who think he would be fine as a coordinator. 

Edited by jTower



Sure. Right. Fuck yeah, let’s go. 


Facetious apathy is motto worthy.

We are going to win.
  • Author
10 minutes ago, trythisathome said:

I'm sure the nation's top assistants were champing at the bit to go coach at Rutgers 

Yes, we’re a magnet for top coaching talent right now. I expect to see some lateral moves from some of the top position coaches in the country.

 

1 minute ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Yes, we’re a magnet for top coaching talent right now. I expect to see some lateral moves from some of the top position coaches in the country.

 

Delusion. 

2 minutes ago, Joker said:

Delusion. 

sarcasm

Edit: nevermind, I saw who wrote it and accidentally gave him too much credit

Edited by Rimbo

Well there some BMDs who think he would be fine as a coordinator. 

Know it wouldn't happen, but I'd be all for it.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm thinking this Ash hire is a good thing.

Aside from his Rutgers stint as HC, his track record is pretty good.

His quarters pass defense will allow our stud DBs to shine.

Plus he runs four man front, which will allow us to bitch about not running a three man front.

The Ash hire was a foregone conclusion when he started consultating, unless MensaTo__ managed to right the ship, which he didn't. No surprise to anybody in these parts.

The real problem, anyway, was the O, not the D. We only lost one single game in which we scored at least 30 points, and that was LSU. Our five losses were by an average of 8 points, and only that high because Baylor (well, and TCU, but what else is new?). If the O picks up just one TD per game, we're 10-2 instead of 7-5. 

The disaster is not that we lost but rather how we lost.

Ash seems like he must be at least moderately competent, or the Pope would've excommunicated him, so I'm not completely pissed about him being the man for 2020.

I'm a lot more concerned about the offense. Offering cigars, rum, and (when in CO) ganja to Papa Legba, because we look a whole lot like a team at a crossroads.

People know Herman is a dead man walking. The only reason Graham Harrell is considering it is because he’s in the same situation at USC. At least he would be back home in Texas at UT for a year or 2. 




There is a silver lining for me. Not attending 2020 Texas football saves me a nice amount of money. I’m using it to upgrade my place in Jersey City. And yeah, Rutgers is ass.



You can also save when you bundle your home and auto with Progressive.

f2a38d032636750cc7d91e07920dba89.jpg
Just now, Joker said:

People know Herman is a dead man walking. The only reason Graham Harrell is considering it is because he’s in the same situation at USC. At least he would be back home in Texas at UT for a year or 2. 

Ash and Harrell would at least allow me to renew my season tickets with a minimum of teeth grinding.

 

6 minutes ago, Joker said:

People know Herman is a dead man walking. The only reason Graham Harrell is considering it is because he’s in the same situation at USC. At least he would be back home in Texas at UT for a year or 2. 

tenor.gif?itemid=11203269

As long as he coaches fundamentals and doesn't call poorly timed delayed blitzes, Ash should be fine

The fake search is the insult to players and fans. Dude seems like a good coach to be our co-dc, why not celebrate the hire right away vs. having a fake interview process. 

I'll be curious to see how the players react, they've been around him and the players always know. Herman & Lovo seem to be the ones out of touch with reality.

On the one hand, Herman's track record with comfort hires speaks for itself (not in a good way), and if he wants to stick with a base 4-3 both the roster and schedule are going to make that tough.

On the other hand, the list of realistic candidates who are equally or better qualified is short. He's known as a fundamentals guy with a DB specialization and if he just performs that role competently, that's going to add wins right there. A lot of defensive improvement is really low hanging fruit.

The $9.95 crowd is worthless so it's hard to know who was a real candidate. I'm sure they called and made Morgan Scalley say no, but if you ever thought that had a chance of happening then you are very, very stupid. There was a lot of smoke around Odom, but he's a Mizzou lifer with the exception of a brief stint at Memphis. That fact that he held out for familiarity - HC job at Memphis and the DC down the road at piggy with that fell through - isn't a shock and makes me think he wouldn't have viewed Texas as a good fit if there were conversations. His resume also isn't leaps and bounds better than Ash's. I'd have like them to take a look at Mike Macintyre but his name never came up. Beyond that, who's the obviously better hire?

I guess my ultimate take is that I understand the consternation around Ash, but he's one of the better available candidates. I'd feel a lot better if I knew Herman made an effort to go outside of his circle - that's not really clear either way. That's a bigger concern than Ash's competence. We'll see how it goes. If it's a mediocre hire the whole thing is getting blown up next year anyway, so whatever.

 

 

7 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

The Ash hire was a foregone conclusion when he started consultating, unless MensaTo__ managed to right the ship, which he didn't. No surprise to anybody in these parts.

The real problem, anyway, was the O, not the D. We only lost one single game in which we scored at least 30 points, and that was LSU. Our five losses were by an average of 8 points, and only that high because Baylor (well, and TCU, but what else is new?). If the O picks up just one TD per game, we're 10-2 instead of 7-5. 

The disaster is not that we lost but rather how we lost.

Ash seems like he must be at least moderately competent, or the Pope would've excommunicated him, so I'm not completely pissed about him being the man for 2020.

I'm a lot more concerned about the offense. Offering cigars, rum, and (when in CO) ganja to Papa Legba, because we look a whole lot like a team at a crossroads.

I'm way more concerned about the defense in this conference.  I believe Herman has the ability to fix the O given more focus.  he has no such ability on D.  The Ash hire was a foregone conclusion as soon as Herman said that "after 2 years in the program I expect our DB's to know how to run quarters coverage".   

that said hopefully we are healthier and deeper next year on D.  the losses were pretty much evenly split in O and D responsibility.  there was no reason to lose to TCU and ISU.

 

38 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

this troglodyte

It's too early to start arm hair discussions.  Maybe let the guy get his office set up before we start making Chewbacca sounds.  

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...
Football ... Basketball ... Baseball ... Other Sports ... Futbol ... 🤫995🤫 ... Gambling ... Movies & TV ... Music ... Hobbies ... Lulz ... Food & Travel ... Daily Texan ... Business & Markets ... Cloak Room ... Help ... For Sale ... Board Discussion ... Advertise... Tailgate Donations

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.