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6 minutes ago, TexTexTex said:

Maybe we should try that dead cat method......

Schrödinger's coach?

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    A few things: -If Harrell is the OC, and the rumors are legit but don’t take anything for granted until ink is dry, then Traylor could make a return. Herman would be admitting to a mistake in let

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14 minutes ago, MoJames said:

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That type of aggression is what we need out of our next coordinators.  No timid lapping at all.

5 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I don't know "the plan". They're talking to numerous people and conducting interviews/putting out feelers for various slots. They're not just swinging a dead cat and hiring the first dipshit it hits. 

I remain adamant that guys need to be hired ahead the first signing day. If they don't do that, we're facing Malikmas giftgiving to other programs. Relatively speaking, we may have different views on what "quickly" means. That time frame is quick to me, but that doesn't mean shit needed to have gotten done yesterday. 

I assume we are also just clearing, or coming up to, the mandatory time-periods any AD job posting requires before an announcement of a hire could even be made. THermanos got fired Friday after Thanksgiving. Not much time yet.

1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

Yeah we're not hiring Harrell if Herman gets fired.

Maybe yes.

1 hour ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

So we’re going to promote an assistant on a staff that was just axed due to poor performance? An assistant with no prior HC experience?

yeahhhhh, about that.

Maybe no.

52 minutes ago, XYZ said:

Stop saying “if Harrell comes here and Herman gets fired, he could get the HC job”. That’s just not going to happen. When was the last time that Texas fired a football head coach and promoted an assistant to head coach? That would be never.

Maybe fuck yourself.

49 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said:

Neither of those programs fired their head coaches.

Maybe yes.

38 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said:

No , that is incorrect.  In your scenario, if Texas fired Herman, then Harrell would no way be considered for the HC job at Texas.  No way.

Maybe no.

34 minutes ago, Rhinotx said:

Meyer is technically still employed there as an Assistant AD. Not sure if that means anything but I think he could have stuck it out if he wanted to. 

Maybe fuck yourself.

 

As at least one or two surly assholes pointed out, there are in fact some scenarios in which Harrell might be a viable candidate to replace a fired MensaTom.

For example, Harrell's O puts up 45 a game, but Ash's D fucks up so badly that we lose five of those games, then MensaTom hits the road and Harrell may very well get a shot at the HC. Or, less related to foobaw, MensaTom gets popped for DUI with a live shemale and a dead female in the back seat...

Bottom line, don't turn a range of several possibilities into a binary yes/no resulting in "impossible" instead of "not very probably, but could happen".

 

1 hour ago, Vito Andolini said:

Ok, some heavy duty research here (have you guys heard of something called Wikipedia?) but it seems Harrell’s dad worked for Bob Shipley at Brownwood, his brothers are all coaching in Texas and his wife is from Tyler, where her family may still reside. Decent checkmarks in the “move back to Texas” boxes when compared to SC. 

And something not in the Wikipedia write up (by the way, that site is pretty good, you should check it out), I remember a story from his time in Green Bay, he literally lived in the most bare bones apartment you could imagine, had only a bean bag chair, video console/TV and slept on a mattress that I think was just on the floor. He’s lived in places like Brownwood, Ennis, Lubbock, Green Bay, Denton, for most of his life. He ain’t no LA guy, who needs the fancy lifestyle. Yes, Austin is big, too, but it’s not Los Angeles crazy big. 

Lulz.  Upon a quick search, I graduated high school with his wife.

I’m anxious about several major things in my life at the moment, this is not one of them. This topic is merely an entertaining distraction. It seems the administration is doing a great job of controlling the information surrounding the search process and I hope we’re all pleasantly surprised with the outcome. But, I’m a Texas fan and getting accustomed to let downs. At least I’m not emotionally tied to the Razorbacks program...

3 minutes ago, pearlandhorn said:

Lulz.  Upon a quick search, I graduated high school with his wife.

Go on.

3 minutes ago, pearlandhorn said:

Lulz.  Upon a quick search, I graduated high school with his wife.

Did you bang her?

Chip Brown / Horns 247 / The latest (on the coaching search) - Monday, 12:00 pm

Spoiler

Monday, 12 pm - As we head into Week 2 of Tom Herman’s search for two new coordinators and two receivers coaches, here’s where things stand …

Former Rutgers coach Chris Ash, the co-defensive coordinator at Ohio State on the Buckeyes’ 2014 national title team with Herman, is a leading candidate (if not THE leading candidate) to replace Todd Orlando.

Herman and Ash have talked about the possibility of Ash becoming Texas’ next defensive coordinator (although Ash hasn’t been in Austin to formally interview and wouldn’t need to because he and Herman are so close, sources said).

Ash, however, is interested in seeing if current Ohio State defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley ends up getting the Boston College head-coaching job, sources said. If so, Ash might be in the mix to return to Ohio State, sources said.

Indications are the Boston College coaching search could wrap up this week.

We’ve reported from the beginning that Texas strength coach Yancy McKnight is doing Herman’s advance work - contacting candidates and gauging their interest - and that McKnight contacted Todd Graham as a defensive coordinator candidate.

Graham, a former head coach at Rice, Tulsa and Arizona State, hired McKnight at Rice in 2006. Sources said Graham has interviewed for the vacant New Mexico head-coaching job.

We’ve also heard former Missouri coach Barry Odom as a possible DC candidate, but Odom might be the leading candidate to take over the defense at Virginia Tech under Justin Fuente.

Utah defensive coordinator Morgan Scalley, a Broyles Award finalist this year whom Texas will face in the Alamo Bowl, has also been a name of interest. But sources have indicated Scalley, a devout Mormon who teaches the Latter-day Saints program to Utah football players in addition to serving as DC, is very comfortable at Utah.

The Week 1 main target of Herman’s offensive coordinator search - USC’s Graham Harrell - met with Herman last Wednesday in Houston, according to sources, and the two talked about the possibility of Harrell joining the Texas staff, sources said.

Sources indicated financial parameters of the job (three years guaranteed at roughly $6 million) were discussed and even the possibility of UT’s new offensive coordinator installing his offense during bowl practices.

But Harrell, who interviewed for the UTSA head-coaching job in Dallas last Monday, sources told Horns247, has returned to Los Angeles and continues to recruit for USC, where it’s been announced Clay Helton will remain the coach.

Sources said Harrell has a close relationship with Helton and has enjoyed the autonomy Helton afforded him in their first season together.

Sources said the reason nothing has been officially announced about Harrell’s future because he’s waiting to see if any other head-coaching job opportunities might come open that he would interview for. (Chip Brown)

 

2 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Go on.

Just wikipedia him and find her name.

2 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Did you bang her?

No.

2 minutes ago, Casual Encounter said:

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See first quoted post.

3 minutes ago, Getafix said:

Chip Brown / Horns 247 / The latest (on the coaching search) - Monday, 12:00 pm

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I can see Ash being Option C or D, but if he's Option A then that does not reflect well on Tommy boy.

3 minutes ago, Getafix said:

Chip Brown / Horns 247 / The latest (on the coaching search) - Monday, 12:00 pm

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Monday, 12 pm - As we head into Week 2 of Tom Herman’s search for two new coordinators and two receivers coaches, here’s where things stand …

Former Rutgers coach Chris Ash, the co-defensive coordinator at Ohio State on the Buckeyes’ 2014 national title team with Herman, is a leading candidate (if not THE leading candidate) to replace Todd Orlando.

Herman and Ash have talked about the possibility of Ash becoming Texas’ next defensive coordinator (although Ash hasn’t been in Austin to formally interview and wouldn’t need to because he and Herman are so close, sources said).

Ash, however, is interested in seeing if current Ohio State defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley ends up getting the Boston College head-coaching job, sources said. If so, Ash might be in the mix to return to Ohio State, sources said.

Indications are the Boston College coaching search could wrap up this week.

We’ve reported from the beginning that Texas strength coach Yancy McKnight is doing Herman’s advance work - contacting candidates and gauging their interest - and that McKnight contacted Todd Graham as a defensive coordinator candidate.

Graham, a former head coach at Rice, Tulsa and Arizona State, hired McKnight at Rice in 2006. Sources said Graham has interviewed for the vacant New Mexico head-coaching job.

We’ve also heard former Missouri coach Barry Odom as a possible DC candidate, but Odom might be the leading candidate to take over the defense at Virginia Tech under Justin Fuente.

Utah defensive coordinator Morgan Scalley, a Broyles Award finalist this year whom Texas will face in the Alamo Bowl, has also been a name of interest. But sources have indicated Scalley, a devout Mormon who teaches the Latter-day Saints program to Utah football players in addition to serving as DC, is very comfortable at Utah.

The Week 1 main target of Herman’s offensive coordinator search - USC’s Graham Harrell - met with Herman last Wednesday in Houston, according to sources, and the two talked about the possibility of Harrell joining the Texas staff, sources said.

Sources indicated financial parameters of the job (three years guaranteed at roughly $6 million) were discussed and even the possibility of UT’s new offensive coordinator installing his offense during bowl practices.

But Harrell, who interviewed for the UTSA head-coaching job in Dallas last Monday, sources told Horns247, has returned to Los Angeles and continues to recruit for USC, where it’s been announced Clay Helton will remain the coach.

Sources said Harrell has a close relationship with Helton and has enjoyed the autonomy Helton afforded him in their first season together.

Sources said the reason nothing has been officially announced about Harrell’s future because he’s waiting to see if any other head-coaching job opportunities might come open that he would interview for. (Chip Brown)

 

 

Chip can't be bothered to keep up with actual college football news.  V-Tech has already named their new DC, and it isn't Odom.  Odom is going to be announced as the new Memphis HC.

2 minutes ago, Getafix said:

Chip Brown / Horns 247 / The latest (on the coaching search) - Monday, 12:00 pm

  Reveal hidden contents

Monday, 12 pm - As we head into Week 2 of Tom Herman’s search for two new coordinators and two receivers coaches, here’s where things stand …

Former Rutgers coach Chris Ash, the co-defensive coordinator at Ohio State on the Buckeyes’ 2014 national title team with Herman, is a leading candidate (if not THE leading candidate) to replace Todd Orlando.

Herman and Ash have talked about the possibility of Ash becoming Texas’ next defensive coordinator (although Ash hasn’t been in Austin to formally interview and wouldn’t need to because he and Herman are so close, sources said).

Ash, however, is interested in seeing if current Ohio State defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley ends up getting the Boston College head-coaching job, sources said. If so, Ash might be in the mix to return to Ohio State, sources said.

Indications are the Boston College coaching search could wrap up this week.

We’ve reported from the beginning that Texas strength coach Yancy McKnight is doing Herman’s advance work - contacting candidates and gauging their interest - and that McKnight contacted Todd Graham as a defensive coordinator candidate.

Graham, a former head coach at Rice, Tulsa and Arizona State, hired McKnight at Rice in 2006. Sources said Graham has interviewed for the vacant New Mexico head-coaching job.

We’ve also heard former Missouri coach Barry Odom as a possible DC candidate, but Odom might be the leading candidate to take over the defense at Virginia Tech under Justin Fuente.

Utah defensive coordinator Morgan Scalley, a Broyles Award finalist this year whom Texas will face in the Alamo Bowl, has also been a name of interest. But sources have indicated Scalley, a devout Mormon who teaches the Latter-day Saints program to Utah football players in addition to serving as DC, is very comfortable at Utah.

The Week 1 main target of Herman’s offensive coordinator search - USC’s Graham Harrell - met with Herman last Wednesday in Houston, according to sources, and the two talked about the possibility of Harrell joining the Texas staff, sources said.

Sources indicated financial parameters of the job (three years guaranteed at roughly $6 million) were discussed and even the possibility of UT’s new offensive coordinator installing his offense during bowl practices.

But Harrell, who interviewed for the UTSA head-coaching job in Dallas last Monday, sources told Horns247, has returned to Los Angeles and continues to recruit for USC, where it’s been announced Clay Helton will remain the coach.

Sources said Harrell has a close relationship with Helton and has enjoyed the autonomy Helton afforded him in their first season together.

Sources said the reason nothing has been officially announced about Harrell’s future because he’s waiting to see if any other head-coaching job opportunities might come open that he would interview for. (Chip Brown)

 

Lol. FCB basically just said Harrell isn't coming to Texas, but waiting to announce he is returning to USC just in case other HC opportunities present themselves. 

Oh, so we’re trying to woo Ash because he is so in demand that Ohio State wants him back. The unnamed source for this one is either Herman trying to shine the turd or Ash’s agent.

Suuuuuure

20 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

Maybe yes.

Maybe no.

Maybe fuck yourself.

Maybe yes.

Maybe no.

Maybe fuck yourself.

 

As at least one or two surly assholes pointed out, there are in fact some scenarios in which Harrell might be a viable candidate to replace a fired MensaTom.

For example, Harrell's O puts up 45 a game, but Ash's D fucks up so badly that we lose five of those games, then MensaTom hits the road and Harrell may very well get a shot at the HC. Or, less related to foobaw, MensaTom gets popped for DUI with a live shemale and a dead female in the back seat...

Bottom line, don't turn a range of several possibilities into a binary yes/no resulting in "impossible" instead of "not very probably, but could happen".

 

No, it’s impossible.

Todd Graham hasn't coordinated a defense in 15 years.  HHis defenses got worse every single year he was the HC at Arizona St - his last year they had the 104th ranked scoring defense in the country.   He's also, possibly, allegedly, an even bigger asshole than Herman.

3 minutes ago, UncleBuck said:

Lol. FCB basically just said Harrell isn't coming to Texas, but waiting to announce he is returning to USC just in case other HC opportunities present themselves. 

Such bullshit.  If he told USC he was declining Herman's offer they would have put up a billboard announcing his return.

6 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

 

Chip can't be bothered to keep up with actual college football news.  V-Tech has already named their new DC, and it isn't Odom.  Odom is going to be announced as the new Memphis HC.

Chip passed out Friday happy hour while writing this update and just came to and hit send.

1 minute ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Todd Graham hasn't coordinated a defense in 15 years.  HHis defenses got worse every single year he was the HC at Arizona St - his last year they had the 104th ranked scoring defense in the country.   He's also, possibly, allegedly, an even bigger asshole than Herman.

That can't be real.  If it were I would hope our AD would have the sense to fire Herman if he tried to pull something like that.  

Sounds like Traylor to UTSA as head coach 

1 minute ago, Fud said:

Sounds like Traylor to UTSA as head coach 

Best of luck.

Just now, Fud said:

Sounds like Traylor to UTSA as head coach 

So that's one head job Harrell won't be getting. 

4 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Todd Graham hasn't coordinated a defense in 15 years.  HHis defenses got worse every single year he was the HC at Arizona St - his last year they had the 104th ranked scoring defense in the country.   He's also, possibly, allegedly, an even bigger asshole than Herman.

The only part of it that was believable is the idea that Herman would be looking at connections from all the way back in his Rice days. I can believe that. It's just that none of them are, you know, qualified candidates or anything.

 

56 minutes ago, Bevo said:

You guys cats are keep caterwauling like a clowder of deranged crazed civets in heat.

51 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

ftfy for alliteration

 

1 hour ago, Bevo said:

You guys cats are keep caterwauling like a clowder of deranged crazed civets in cheat.

FTF Surly.

My favorite take so far is the "Harrell is a country boy at heart, and thus will eschew the bright lights of LA for the small-town environment of . . . Austin, Tx."

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1 minute ago, UncleBuck said:

So that's one head job Harrell won't be getting. 

Only other job we know he has interviewed for is UNLV - and if he takes that job over the USC or Texas OC positions then he's crazy.

Congrats to Traylor. Excited about that because I always pull for our satellite schools. 

Well except for our agricultural and mechanical branch. 

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2 minutes ago, Walden Ponderer said:

The only part of it that was believable is the idea that Herman would be looking at connections from all the way back in his Rice days. I can believe that. It's just that none of them are, you know, qualified candidates or anything.

They didn't have any overlap at Rice - but i do believe that he (or someone on his staff) might have  reached out to him for consultation.

Or Chip Brown is just full of shit.

You probably have me blocked or ignored but I like your reply here.

Suck up.

As stated in the recruiting thread, that Chip Brown article was propoganda bullshit to prop up Chris Ash. 

probably look like 

OC: Lashlee

QB: Tim Beck

WR: Samples

OL: Hand

RB: Drayton

TE: [insert whomoever]

DC: Chris Ash

DE: Giles (lol)

DB: [insert whomoever]

DT: [insert whomoever]

See you guys at the 2020 Next Coach thread. 

 

7 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Such bullshit.  If he told USC he was declining Herman's offer they would have put up a billboard announcing his return.

Harrel waiting out the HC market before making a decision is really the only thing that makes sense though.   Otherwise he would have either taken the Texas job, or as you mentioned, announced he was staying at USC.

10 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Todd Graham hasn't coordinated a defense in 15 years.  HHis defenses got worse every single year he was the HC at Arizona St - his last year they had the 104th ranked scoring defense in the country.   He's also, possibly, allegedly, an even bigger asshole than Herman.

There's no possibly or allegedly to it. Todd Graham is a gaping asshole.

10 minutes ago, Fud said:

Sounds like Traylor to UTSA as head coach 

Happy for him that he gets to return to the state and glad that he really can't hurt Texas in recruiting while at UTSA.

2 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Harrel waiting out the HC market before making a decision is really the only thing that makes sense though.   Otherwise he would have either taken the Texas job, or as you mentioned, announced he was staying at USC.

I think you're right that the only reason we haven't heard anything is because Harrell is seeing what shakes loose - but I think if Harrell has told us 'no thanks' and is staying at USC unless a HC offer comes (as Chip is implying) that we would have heard that from the USC side.

7 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

 

This seems like positive news for Texas. You'd think if it's a choice between Traylor and Harrell, Harrell has to have an edge because of his experience at USC. So did Harrell turn them down? Who the hell knows, but at least that means he's still a candidate for us. Maybe he has other options as well. 

5 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

As stated in the recruiting thread, that Chip Brown article was propoganda bullshit to prop up Chris Ash. 

probably look like 

OC: Lashlee

QB: Tim Beck

WR: Samples

OL: Hand

RB: Drayton

TE: [insert whomoever]

DC: Chris Ash

DE: Giles (lol)

DB: [insert whomoever]

DT: [insert whomoever]

See you guys at the 2020 Next Coach thread. 

 

I think that's a better coaching staff than the one that got us to 10 wins.

59 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Agree except Nebraska fires solich after a nine win season

And look where that got them. 

I think that's a better coaching staff than the one that got us to 10 wins.


Maybe but Surly never passes up an opportunity to bitch about something. I think some people here would rather have Herman fail so they can say “I told you so”.
3 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

I think you're right that the only reason we haven't heard anything is because Harrell is seeing what shakes loose - but I think if Harrell has told us 'no thanks' and is staying at USC unless a HC offer comes (as Chip is implying) that we would have heard that from the USC side.

I'm sure his Agent is advising him to not tell anyone anything.  Even if he was to get a HC offer he didn't want to take (UNLV for example) he could try to leverage that.  

Just now, Mo Horn said:

This seems like positive news for Texas. You'd think if it's a choice between Traylor and Harrell, Harrell has to have an edge because of his experience at USC. So did Harrell turn them down? Who the hell knows, but at least that means he's still a candidate for us. Maybe he has other options as well. 

I can't see Harrell turning down that job - I think maybe Traylor was just a better fit.  He 's got more experience and has a ton of HC experience (albeit at the HS level).

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