October 17, 20196 yr So this is one of the biggest weaknesses of our cook team. Being a yankee, my only experience is with the sweet baked beans, not the pinto beans you get a Texas bbq places. Anyone have a good recipe? Ideally I'd chop up some burnt ends to throw in the pot, but since the bean turn-in time is about 2 hours before brisket, they wouldn't have enough time to get to know eachother before I had to submit them. I'm firing up the pit next week for a small employee appreciation thing to cook some ribs and chicken wings and was wondering if there was another cut of meat I could smoke ahead of time in that same 4-6 hour time frame and reserve/freeze to use in my beans when the BBQ competition arrives. I was thinking like a chuck roast or some other fatty beef cut.
October 17, 20196 yr Author This is probably a good place to start.https://www.homesicktexan.com/2015/07/pinto-beans-aaron-franklin-barbecue.html
October 17, 20196 yr pound of beans washed and picked through. let soak overnight with water ( or google quick soak method) 1 onion rough chop 2 jalapenos left whole 3 or 4 cloves garlic chopped quarter pound or so of salt pork diced 1 smoked ham hock water salt to taste at the very end in a pot on medium heat render the salt pork and ham hock for maybe 3 to 5 minutes. Add the garlic, jalapenos and onion. cook for 8 to 10 minutes. add the beans and water to cover the beans by 1 to 2 inches above the beans. bring to a boil and turn down to a slow simmer. at this point I like to partially cover and let cook for at least 2 hours or really more. stir occasionally. add more water as necessary. you want to cook long enough to see the "gravy" form. beans cooked right should be a little thick and not watery. once you see the gravy form add the salt to taste. good beans should take 3 to 4 hours.
October 17, 20196 yr It’s interesting that Aaron soaks his beans in already spiced water. Also, soaking in chicken stock instead of water gives a richer dish.
October 17, 20196 yr I typically scoop a couple tablespoons of frozen apple juice concentrate on to give 'em just a hint of sweet without being cloying.
October 17, 20196 yr Author How much cook time is available?Plenty. Cooking can start around 6pm, bean turn in is 11:30am. I’d probably soak the beans overnight and start cooking them around 5AMish.
October 17, 20196 yr you have enough time to use serious eats' cassoulet method. do that. just use bbq seasonings and meats instead of french. i made red beans using camelia brand beans and cajun meats (smoked andouille, fresh andouille, tasso) and creole seasonings (cayenne, sage, trinity). absolutely finominole. https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2014/10/traditional-french-cassoulet-recipe.html edit: i should just come cook the beans for you Edited October 17, 20196 yr by elfenix
October 18, 20196 yr You can order "Ranch Style Beans" online. I have been putting stew meat on the smoker, for about an hour covered in a rub, then I chop those chunks to bit and add to the beans.
October 18, 20196 yr 57 minutes ago, hopkinsnhorns said: Anyone have a preferred brand? Jose Madragon's illegal variety is best.
October 18, 20196 yr don't over think this hop : pinto beans (of course) also use half chicken broth / half water large tub of HEB HOT pico de gallo (one tube per 1lb of beans) two meaty chunks of pork salt or some good smoked sausage generous amount of Bolner's Pinto Bean Seasoning extra garlic powder little extra chili powder salt << be careful here because salty beans are horrible, but so are beans with no salt two packets of GOYA Sazon seasonings optional : can of rotel optional : small can of mild jalepenos or a little bit of chopped carrots and celery give them plenty of time to cook, you want them nice and soft Edited October 18, 20196 yr by tx 3 putt
October 18, 20196 yr 28 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said: don't over think this hop : pinto beans (of course) also use half chicken broth / half water large tub of HEB HOT pico de gallo (one tube per 1lb of beans) two meaty chunks of pork salt or some good smoked sausage generous amount of Bolner's Pinto Bean Seasoning extra garlic powder little extra chili powder salt << be careful here because salty beans are horrible, but so are beans with no salt two packets of GOYA Sazon seasonings optional : can of rotel optional : small can of mild jalepenos or a little bit of chopped carrots and celery give them plenty of time to cook, you want them nice and soft Yes to the Sazon.
October 18, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, elfenix said: you have enough time to use serious eats' cassoulet method. do that. just use bbq seasonings and meats instead of french.
October 18, 20196 yr 1 lbs soaked pinto beansFiesta pinto bean seasoning2 packs Sazon Large yellow onion4 jalapeños Smoked ham hockBeef stockSimple and delicious. To turn it up to 11:Smoke a pack pork country “ribs”. Finish by braising in bbq sauce and onions on the smoker until tender. Remove and put the beans on the smoker. About half way, put the ribs and braising liquid in the beans and finish cooking. Best pork and beans ever.
October 18, 20196 yr Don’t stir em to often, makes them more creamy, I like the bean juice to be more clear.
October 18, 20196 yr For those who are like me and forget to plan ahead, 1 hour in the Instant Pot turns out some good pinto beans as well.
October 18, 20196 yr All of those are fine but the best pinto beans are as follows........ Salt Pepper 3 or 4 whole pieces of bacon That's it. That's the list.
October 18, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, dcbc said: For those who are like me and forget to plan ahead, 1 hour in the Instant Pot turns out some good pinto beans as well. I can't remember the exact cooking time but I remember thinking if I did it again, I'd cut off 10 minutes of the recipe and check them at that point.
October 18, 20196 yr Smoke some beef cheeks ahead of time. Tastes like brisket. Done in 5 hours or less. Throw them in using one of the recipes above.
October 18, 20196 yr 18 hours ago, hopkinsnhorns said: This is probably a good place to start.https://www.homesicktexan.com/2015/07/pinto-beans-aaron-franklin-barbecue.html I got this recipe from his book, and they cook up quite tasty. He calls for 1.5 T of kosher salt, but I've found that a bit salty for my taste. I start with 2t and add as needed while cooking. Don't skimp on the brisket. A bit of pork shoulder and/or sausage takes it up another notch. Edited October 18, 20196 yr by Dutch
October 18, 20196 yr Author I've got to fire up the smoker next week for a few hours and was looking for a brisket substitute for the beans I could smoke during that time. Even if it's not done, I can wrap and finish whatever in the oven to achieve the desired tenderness. I was thinking maybe a chuck roast, which I could shred and freeze to add to the beans during the competition. Any ideas on what cut would be good? The alternative is to go with salt pork and smoked hocks, but I think beef would be a better option to set me apart.
October 18, 20196 yr 15 hours ago, tx 3 putt said: don't over think this hop : pinto beans (of course) also use half chicken broth / half water large tub of HEB HOT pico de gallo (one tube per 1lb of beans) two meaty chunks of pork salt or some good smoked sausage generous amount of Bolner's Pinto Bean Seasoning extra garlic powder little extra chili powder salt << be careful here because salty beans are horrible, but so are beans with no salt two packets of GOYA Sazon seasonings optional : can of rotel optional : small can of mild jalepenos or a little bit of chopped carrots and celery give them plenty of time to cook, you want them nice and soft I just hit up the produce section beans cebolla garlic tomato jalapenos oregano leftover fatty pork or beef salt Fin. Edited October 18, 20196 yr by SimonBolivar
October 19, 20196 yr Simmer with Clamato. Adds both msg and some high fructose corn syrup. There is a big thread at Texags on using Clamato in making pintos. https://texags.com/forums/34/topics/1394477/1#discussion Edited October 19, 20196 yr by ShaggyBevo RIP
October 19, 20196 yr 11 hours ago, Steamboat1874 said: All of those are fine but the best pinto beans are as follows........ Salt Pepper 3 or 4 whole pieces of bacon That's it. That's the list. I use salt pork instead of bacon. I omit salt, add pepper and a little tabasco.
October 19, 20196 yr 16 hours ago, RMac5 said: Don’t stir em to often, makes them more creamy, I like the bean juice to be more clear. Interesting. I have the exact opposite opinion.
October 19, 20196 yr 21 hours ago, irishtexan said: Smoke some beef cheeks ahead of time. Tastes like brisket. Done in 5 hours or less. Throw them in using one of the recipes above.
October 19, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said: The tub of heb poco is a powerful / under rated ingredient Especially if you sauté it in the pork fat a little before you throw it in the pot. A couple of my better pots of beans had pico in them.
October 19, 20196 yr On 10/17/2019 at 6:55 PM, HenryJames said: This is all you need. And salt pork. Edited October 19, 20196 yr by Lat22
October 19, 20196 yr 16 hours ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said: Simmer with Clamato. Adds both msg and some high fructose corn syrup. There is a big thread at Texags on using Clamato in making pintos. https://texags.com/forums/34/topics/1394477/1#discussion
October 19, 20196 yr 20 hours ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said: Simmer with Clamato. Adds both msg and some high fructose corn syrup. There is a big thread at Texags on using Clamato in making pintos. Why does this not surprise me?
October 21, 20196 yr Author If I go with beef cheeks, should I use beef broth or chicken broth in the simmer? I'm afraid if I went full beef broth these would task more like beans au jus than pinto beans.
October 21, 20196 yr 3 minutes ago, RPM said: Am I the only one that adds a can of beer? You guys are heathens. That would be borracho beans. No, you are not the only one. If you use a can of beer in your charro beans, you didn't make charro beans.
October 21, 20196 yr Author 2 hours ago, RPM said: Am I the only one that adds a can of beer? You guys are heathens. The previous guy used to soak the beans overnight in Bud Light (sorry @Steel Shank). Then they would rinse and boil in chicken broth then add a large tub of HEB pico and a couple cans of beer. I thought they tasted like shit, and I think the Bud Light bath was to blame. That and hot wilted bits of cilantro leaves left them with a off-putting, bitter taste.
October 21, 20196 yr On 10/18/2019 at 8:20 PM, ShaggyBevo RIP said: Simmer with Clamato. Adds both msg and some high fructose corn syrup. There is a big thread at Texags on using Clamato in making pintos. https://texags.com/forums/34/topics/1394477/1#discussion be careful eating beans from Aggies, I heard they add a lil sheep jizz for seasoning
October 21, 20196 yr 28 minutes ago, hopkinsnhorns said: The previous guy used to soak the beans overnight in Bud Light (sorry @Steel Shank). Then they would rinse and boil in chicken broth then add a large tub of HEB pico and a couple cans of beer. I thought they tasted like shit, and I think the Bud Light bath was to blame. That and hot wilted bits of cilantro leaves left them with a off-putting, bitter taste. I soak over night in water, but I add a can of beer to chicken stock to cook. #nocilantro
October 21, 20196 yr cilantro blows. recipe calls for, say, 1/4 bunch. you chop it up, somehow half of it ends up on the floor, in the living room, on the dog, etc. then it starts to rot immediately, and if you don't finish whatever it is you put it in that day, it's got floating bits of slimy dark green cilantro leaf in it. the rest of the bunch you stuck back in the bag in the fridge, and will find at the bottom of the drawer 3 weeks later, as a pool of brown sludge. fuck that shit.
October 22, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, hopkinsnhorns said: The previous guy used to soak the beans overnight in Bud Light (sorry @Steel Shank). Then they would rinse and boil in chicken broth then add a large tub of HEB pico and a couple cans of beer. I thought they tasted like shit, and I think the Bud Light bath was to blame. That and hot wilted bits of cilantro leaves left them with a off-putting, bitter taste. My recipe calls for a case of Bud Light, but it goes in me, not the beans.
October 22, 20196 yr So you only soak them for 10 minutes?What am I supposed to do with the other 8 minutes?
October 22, 20196 yr I have a couple of members of my family (females) who prefer Bush’s candied beans to pinto beans. I started adding Ranch Style beans into the Bush’s. I’m up to a 50:50 ratio with no complaints, but at this rate, I may not live long enough to complete the mission. I may try Aaron Franklin’s recipe for myself and let them have their Bush’s. Edited October 22, 20196 yr by ImissWallyPryor
October 22, 20196 yr 18 hours ago, RPM said: Am I the only one that adds a can of beer? You guys are heathens. Depends on whether or not anybody has left a Miller Lite or other craft garbage in my fridge.
October 22, 20196 yr Our beloved maid growing up made the best pinto beans. Just salt and pepper and salt pork. They cooked two to three hours and were tender but not mushy. Adding the perfect amount of salt was key. She never measured anything but kept tasting them until it was just right.
October 22, 20196 yr Imo, i'd leave out chili powder. It's equivalent to liquid smoke in my world. Might as well just plate ranch style beans.
October 22, 20196 yr Soak the beans in bourbon overnight, preferably something barrel aged. Drain off the liquid and set aside the beans, then get some extra virgin olive oil searing hot in the pot and add the beans back in to get a nice sear on them (this will seal in the bean juices). Once the beans have seared add your shallot, garlic, ginger, cumin, coriander, tomato paste, and a handful of saffron. Cook that down for a couple of hours and then pour in a few liters of a nice, hoppy IPA. Let that come to a rolling boil for 6 or so hours and then let cool completely before serving.
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