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San Antonio Spurs 2019-2020 season thread: Just here for the HEB commercials

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4 minutes ago, XYZ said:

It’s all Kawhi’s fault. Fuck that guy.

Only partially. It's the fault of the emotional response to Kawhi's bitchhood by the Spurs management. They got a shitty deal for a great player because they were more interested in trying to preserve some illusionary power dynamic that does not exist in the modern NBA.

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  • TheBryMan81
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    Really cool article from The Athletic on Pop from guys who didn't spend very much time on the team "Keith Langford (2007-08, 2 games): I’m not a Spurs fan by any means. But I’ll defend them tooth

  • MNLonghornFUKM
    MNLonghornFUKM

    Hell of a run.

  • Mitch Cumsteen
    Mitch Cumsteen

    Happy Memorial Day everyone!  

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11 minutes ago, XYZ said:

It’s all Kawhi’s fault. Fuck that guy.

Yes. 

5 hours ago, PilotsError said:

Lowe and Simmons discussed the Spurs very briefly on Zach's pod yesterday.  Very sad.  The gist was, they're no longer a intelligent front office and the shine is off.  

I think the front office has done fine given the circumstances.  There's no stupidly bad deals on the books and they've drafted about as well as you can expect given the draft position.    This is basically the same roster as last year that made the playoffs, but was expected to be better with Murray coming back. 

The sudden shittyness has to be coaching.  Pop is great and all, but he currently has no assistants that have been head coaches at any level.  I think we might have taken for granted how much a guy like Messina or carlisimo contributed to the coaching staff.  

without looking up detailed stats, my instinct is to say the difference is that Derozen sucks this year. High turnover rate and low offensive efficiency every time I turn on a game.

1 hour ago, dingleberryswitzer said:

I think the front office has done fine given the circumstances.  There's no stupidly bad deals on the books and they've drafted about as well as you can expect given the draft position.    This is basically the same roster as last year that made the playoffs, but was expected to be better with Murray coming back. 

The sudden shittyness has to be coaching.  Pop is great and all, but he currently has no assistants that have been head coaches at any level.  I think we might have taken for granted how much a guy like Messina or carlisimo contributed to the coaching staff.  

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We have at least 3 contracts that are unbelievably difficult to move.  And we've had several in the last 3-4 years.  Patty's may not seem terrible now, but they it's been bad for a few years as an example.  And unless your stars are in their prime, it's hard to run back one where most of the key components are in their 30's.  I don't think Pop forgot to coach overnight, I think it's more the pieces don't fit very well and as decline has seeped in to some of our key players, it makes game planning against, too difficult to overcome.

 

While Patty's contract is not ideal, it's not like it's a  joakim Noah type contract.  Derozan and Aldridge's contracts are on par with other borderline all star salaries.  Yea it sucks they are old.  

Ok paus deal was a head scratcher. 

12 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

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We have at least 3 contracts that are unbelievably difficult to move.  And we've had several in the last 3-4 years.  Patty's may not seem terrible now, but they it's been bad for a few years as an example.  And unless your stars are in their prime, it's hard to run back one where most of the key components are in their 30's.  I don't think Pop forgot to coach overnight, I think it's more the pieces don't fit very well and as decline has seeped in to some of our key players, it makes game planning against, too difficult to overcome.

 

There is no doubt that they have some bad deals on their books and have had a few more (see Gasol, Pau) over the past few years, but they don't have any franchise-altering albatross contracts like John Wall, CP3, Russell Westbrook or CJ McCollum/Dame Lillard. They clear essentially everything but Dejonte Murray and rookie deals off of their cap after next season. Derozan (hopefully) will be off their books after this season. Going forward, they are in great shape to take on some bad deals for draft picks and/or young prospects. 

3 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

There is no doubt that they have some bad deals on their books and have had a few more (see Gasol, Pau) over the past few years, but they don't have any franchise-altering albatross contracts like John Wall, CP3, Russell Westbrook or CJ McCollum/Dame Lillard. They clear essentially everything but Dejonte Murray and rookie deals off of their cap after next season. Derozan (hopefully) will be off their books after this season. Going forward, they are in great shape to take on some bad deals for draft picks and/or young prospects. 

Taking on 3 years of DeRozan is frankly a terrible deal.  Patty and Pau's deals are poor to awful signings.  Marco's was bad, not only because they were paying a bench role guy in his age 32nd year, but because of the makeup of the team as we were (and still are) already guard heavy.  This was one of those "culture" signings and although I like Marco, it didn't make sense at the time and now is a bad deal on the end of the bench.  It also hard capped us last year. 

I don't think anyone is calling PATFO the Wizards or the Knicks front offices, not at all.  But a lot of the hay they made regarding roster moves is attributable to having David Robinson or moreso, a top 10 all time player in Tim Duncan to anchor and be the foundation of the organization.  It's much tougher to pay a little more for culture signings when you don't have former #1 overall picks making you a playoff team every year, regardless.... that's all.  I don't want it portrayed PATFO hasn't done or don't do some very good things, but without that core superstar, the mistakes you make as a front office are amplified, which is really what Simmons and Lowe are saying.  

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They should’ve paid us to have to watch that shit.

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San Antonio Spurs 2019-2020 season thread: Just here for the HEB commercials

I've seen the commercials, and I don't even like them that much.  I don't need to keep watching them.

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2 minutes ago, miguelito said:

I've seen the commercials, and I don't even like them that much.  I don't need to keep watching them.

Proof that this season has sucked in every way imaginable. And some unimagined. 

They should’ve paid us to have to watch that shit.
Luckily I didn't watch at all.

LA played really well tonight. Maybe trying to up his trade value?

Yeah, that's what this team needs. Not just another guard, but one who is overpaid, on the wrong side of 30, and well past his prime. Keep those bad contracts a-comin'!

(I'm sure it's a baseless rumor. Please be a baseless rumor.)

Please, please, please do not tell me that there are rumors of Chris Paul coming to SA.  Please little baby jesus make this be just a rumor and have zero truth to it. 

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I guess the front office wants an answer to the question, “how do we make this worse?” Unless some of these nice picks the Thunder have acquired are coming with him.

He's fucking with you.  There's no credible rumor we're looking to acquire Chris Paul.  It was one of those, "wouldn't this be fun" trade articles from B/R.  No reporting, no rumor.  Just wish fulfillment to garner clicks.

This is how the article starts:

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League executives "don't see a robust market" for Chris Paul, even after his solid start, according to the Los Angeles Times' Dan Woike. This tracks with ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski suggesting over the summer that Oklahoma City might need to "incentivize" suitors to absorb the two years and $85.6 million left on his contract after this season.

That makes this proposed deal a borderline no-brainer for the Thunder. They would skate under the luxury tax this season by saving nearly $5 million in salary and wouldn't be taking on any long-term pacts as part of the process.

 

Fuck the rockets.

Inside look to today's game (Rick Carlisle prepping)..

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GSG...

Playing decently tonight vs the Mavs. Need to play better defense, though.

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Can’t wait for more of Marco and Rudy in the second half. Their defense is a sight to behold. I especially love it when Marco points at the player he’s supposed to be covering as they put the ball in the basket. That’s my favorite Marco play. 

I’m watching the second half tonight and I notice that the Mavs have a whiny euro player in their team. It’s good to see some traditions carried on.

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2 minutes ago, Hate said:

I’m watching the second half tonight and I notice that the Mavs have a whiny euro player in their team. It’s good to see some traditions carried on.

Which one?

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39 minutes ago, Kermit said:

Can’t wait for more of Marco and Rudy in the second half. Their defense is a sight to behold. I especially love it when Marco points at the player he’s supposed to be covering as they put the ball in the basket. That’s my favorite Marco play. 

A new Marco defensive move was born tonight. I believe it’s called the “fall down”. It’s where Marco inexplicably falls down and allows an open shot.

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9 minutes ago, Kermit said:

A new Marco defensive move was born tonight. I believe it’s called the “fall down”. It’s where Marco inexplicably falls down and allows an open shot.

The Marco Embarco? 

Jeez, who's left on the bench to put in for trash time

Leave the starters in. They’re trash. 

They pull me back in by cutting it close, then they waste a bunch of time and put up a horrible shot. So frustrating. I know it'll probably be better in the long run if we lose more and get a better draft position, but I hate watching us lose.

 

 

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Final play encapsulates what idiots the players on this team truly are. Defensive rebound. Bryn dribbles up the floor with precious seconds counting down. He...stands there. And waits. Dazzling basketball intellect, Bryn. Thanks for nothing.

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PSA: Free Solo is on the National Geographic channel right now, last 20 minutes.  It starts over again after this.

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21 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

Unfortunately, "Free Lonnie" isn't on anytime soon.

It’s the sequel to “Pop retires.”

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