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3 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

when was the last time a new manager took over a 107 win world-series team?  or a new gm?

i want names.  i want them now or i want them eventually.

I'm hoping Crane hires well and avoids a Jerry Jones situation

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  • Here's the thing that makes me absolutely livid about this... Cheating happens all the time in baseball. At all levels. All levels. The MLB itself cheats the game by juicing the ball. Players juiced t

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    It's not the end, I agree. The Astros are still sacks of giant shit, though.  Shame on them.

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    Very sad to see that the Astros are basically dipshit cheaters from the top down. Hey, at least the Black Sox are happy that someone else is wearing their crown of infamy.    

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34 minutes ago, NowThis said:

have any players confirmed this?  Does 2017 get a * from fans outside of Houston? Does this thread have the technical breakdown of hwo it was done?

If we start doing that there are a whole lot of teams that are going to have * next to their championships.

The report itself cast doubt on anyone trying to determining causality between the sign stealing scheme and the results on the field. The Astros weren't found by this investigation to be cheating in 2018 or 2019 yet they were still pretty fucking good both years. Not to mention the road/home splits etc or the testimony from various players who thought it was more distracting than beneficial. 

Fuck this asterisk bullshit.

 

I can’t wait till the season starts and this lineup is still producing, I hope they come into this season with fire ready to prove to everyone who doubts them. 

4 hours ago, Asithappens said:

tl:dr

Luhnow is a cheating piece of shit.

suck it

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6 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

I can’t wait till the season starts and this lineup is still producing, I hope they come into this season with fire ready to prove to everyone who doubts them. 

praying the office GIF

best case scenario, this team comes out with a huge chip on their shoulder 

Just now, cabowabo said:

So, what’s gonna be the cute motto for 2020?

 

Score Early and Often

 

1 minute ago, cabowabo said:

So, what’s gonna be the cute motto for 2020?

Don’t Get Caught

1 minute ago, cabowabo said:

So, what’s gonna be the cute motto for 2020?

“Bangin’ and Swangin’”

3 minutes ago, cabowabo said:

So, what’s gonna be the cute motto for 2020?

Tell Me How My Ass Taste !

3 minutes ago, cabowabo said:

So, what’s gonna be the cute motto for 2020?

“Sorry, guys”

We bang em, you hang em, we bang em

The only reason this stupid ass player scheme got busted was because of three fucking cocksuckers: Evan Drellich, Brandon Taubman, and Mike Fiers.

Drellich is a crybaby bitchass Masshole mfer who has never liked the Astros organization because of his personal beef with them going back to his brief stint in Htown at the Chronicle when the Astros kicked him out of the clubhouse and tried to strong arm him with his  bosses or something. Mike Fiers was butthurt because the Astros left him off the postseason roster and then declined to bring him back. Brandon Taubman was just an arrogant pissant who had too much to drink in celebrating the ALCS win and went full on douche bro against Alyson Footer in the presence of people like Drellich. So game 7 happens to go against the Astros and guys like Fiers and Drellich were ready to pounce in the wake of the Taubman story about the Astros culture.

Just now, Gourmand said:

The only reason this stupid ass player scheme got busted was because of three fucking cocksuckers: Evan Drellich, Brandon Taubman, and Mike Fiers.

Drellich is a crybaby bitchass Masshole mfer who has never liked the Astros organization because of his personal beef with them going back to his brief stint in Htown at the Chronicle when the Astros kicked him out of the clubhouse and tried to strong arm him with his  bosses or something. Mike Fiers was butthurt because the Astros left him off the postseason roster and then declined to bring him back. Brandon Taubman was just an arrogant pissant who had too much to drink in celebrating the ALCS win and went full on douche bro against Alyson Footer in the presence of people like Drellich. So game 7 happens to go against the Astros and guys like Fiers and Drellich were ready to pounce in the wake of the Taubman story about the Astros culture.

Exactly this.  Remove one factor and this doesn’t blow up.  Perfect storm of dumbassery and Butthurt.  

8 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

The only reason this stupid ass player scheme got busted was because of three fucking cocksuckers: Evan Drellich, Brandon Taubman, and Mike Fiers.

Drellich is a crybaby bitchass Masshole mfer who has never liked the Astros organization because of his personal beef with them going back to his brief stint in Htown at the Chronicle when the Astros kicked him out of the clubhouse and tried to strong arm him with his  bosses or something. Mike Fiers was butthurt because the Astros left him off the postseason roster and then declined to bring him back. Brandon Taubman was just an arrogant pissant who had too much to drink in celebrating the ALCS win and went full on douche bro against Alyson Footer in the presence of people like Drellich. So game 7 happens to go against the Astros and guys like Fiers and Drellich were ready to pounce in the wake of the Taubman story about the Astros culture.

Don’t forget FUCK JOMBOY...even though he didn’t actually do a god damn thing

Edited by RGBIII

Brandon Taubman, and Mike Fiers are 100% to blame here for this blowing up

quick manager hire - brad ausmus. i wouldn't be 100% against this

also a member of the National Jewish Sports Hall of Fame

Just now, tx 3 putt said:

quick manager hire - brad ausmus. i wouldn't be 100% against this

also a member of the National Jewish Sports Hall of Fame

Ready to tear it all down already?

Bang a Gong. Get it on

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1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

If we start doing that there are a whole lot of teams that are going to have * next to their championships.

Vince’s knee was down when he threw that TD to Ramonce. 

9 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

Ready to tear it all down already?

near .500 record, experienced. knows the org. to me, it seems a good mesh with altuve / bregman / springer 

53 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

The report itself cast doubt on anyone trying to determining causality between the sign stealing scheme and the results on the field. The Astros weren't found by this investigation to be cheating in 2018 or 2019 yet they were still pretty fucking good both years. Not to mention the road/home splits etc or the testimony from various players who thought it was more distracting than beneficial. 

 

Well that's an interesting reading of things:

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The investigation uncovered no evidence that Astros players utilized the banging scheme in 2018. However, the Astros’ replay review room staff continued, at least for part of the 2018 season, to decode signs using the live center field camera feed, and to transmit the signs to the dugout through in-person communication.

And if I catch a kid cheating in my class, I'm going to spend zero effort trying to figure out how much he benefited from the cheating, because the rule is DON'T CHEAT.  

near .500 record, experienced. knows the org. to me, it seems a good mesh with altuve / bregman / springer 

Brad Ausmus lost all goodwill after how he acted during the Marisnick drama. Fuck him.
10 minutes ago, Lat22 said:

Vince’s knee was down when he threw that TD to Ramonce. 

Lateral and it would have been first and goal.  Next.  

Ausmus is also a terrible manager.

Eeeesh

Maybe we call Hal Lanier?

 

8 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:


Brad Ausmus lost all goodwill after how he acted during the Marisnick drama. Fuck him.

jake's gone and he has to stand up for his player. hell, hinch just fell on the sword for his players 

3 hours ago, RGBIII said:

So they had 4 chances at top 2 picks and got 2 right...imagine the hit ratio on 4 chances at picks ranging between 26-60 

I'd say they got 1 right, Bregman. Appel was a miss, Aiken was a miss, Correa can't stay healthy, Tucker needs to start producing. Springer was drafted before Luhnow took over. Though Luhnow also inherited Altuve and Keuchel. I'd say Luhnow was much better in trades, though he had so really bad ones as well.

1 minute ago, HtownHorn said:

I'd say they got 1 right, Bregman. Appel was a miss, Aiken was a miss, Correa can't stay healthy, Tucker needs to start producing. Springer was drafted before Luhnow took over. Though Luhnow also inherited Altuve and Keuchel. I'd say Luhnow was much better in trades, though he had so really bad ones as well.

That’s a silly take on Correa and Tucker.

3 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

That’s a silly take on Correa and Tucker.

How so?

Correa has been hurt in every season, except one. Tucker hasn't proven anything at the major league level.

Just now, HtownHorn said:

How so?

Correa has been hurt in every season, except one. Tucker hasn't proven anything at the major league level.

Correa isn’t a miss because of his health. It’s impossible to project that. Purely in his play, he’s absolutely a hit. When you factor in that selecting him allowed them to draft McCullers too, it makes it even more of a no-brainer.

Kyle Tucker hasn’t proved anything is a better take than your previous statement, that he “needs to start producing.” He has 131 career AB (and he looked good in his short time this year). Come on.

Just now, formermav43 said:

Correa isn’t a miss because of his health. It’s impossible to project that. Purely in his play, he’s absolutely a hit. When you factor in that selecting him allowed them to draft McCullers too, it makes it even more of a no-brainer.

Kyle Tucker hasn’t proved anything is a better take than your previous statement, that he “needs to start producing.” He has 131 career AB (and he looked good in his short time this year). Come on.

Correa isn't a hit either. A guy that routinely misses 50+ games isn't a draft hit. Tucker is TBD, but I didn't say they weren't hits either. So far the only player that Luhnow drafted in the Top 5 that has consistently produced over full seasons is Bregman. This isn't a crazy statement.

Just now, HtownHorn said:

Correa isn't a hit either. A guy that routinely misses 50+ games isn't a draft hit. Tucker is TBD, but I didn't say they weren't hits either. So far the only player that Luhnow drafted in the Top 5 that has consistently produced over full seasons is Bregman. This isn't a crazy statement.

“Correa isn’t a hit” is absolutely a crazy statement. This isn’t even worth arguing about anymore it’s so ludicrous. And I don’t even care for him and think he should be traded.

20 minutes ago, huge said:

Ausmus is also a terrible manager.

Eeeesh

This.  He's very old school and learned nothing about critical and analytical thinking at Dartmouth.  

1 hour ago, cabowabo said:

So, what’s gonna be the cute motto for 2020?

Snitches get 108 red Stitches 

2 hours ago, maninblack said:

I'm hoping Crane hires well and avoids a Jerry Jones situation

You mean if we hire Barry Switzer we will lose a conference championship and then win it all in 2021? Sign me up for that bastard dirt burglar!

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Bobby Valentine says the Astros should hire his buddy J.K. French.  

This bandaid idea is fantastic, we should do that next year.  Also, have Mike Scott teach the "splitter."

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

quick manager hire - brad ausmus. 

That’s a GIDP waiting to happen.  

2 hours ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

I can’t wait till the season starts and this lineup is still producing, I hope they come into this season with fire ready to prove to everyone who doubts them. 

I seriously hope this whole situation is creating a monster.  

2 hours ago, Lat22 said:

Vince’s knee was down when he threw that TD to Ramonce. 

"threw"?

lulz

I seriously hope this whole situation is creating a monster.  

At a minimum some thick skin. Gonna get old in a hurry for the players but gonna be a long year on the road

First road series is in Oakland.
The only thing worse than the drums will be all 5 fans in attendance banging on trash cans

Like I said during last season, I embrace being the heel and would love for every fan to hate us (not Altuve, only a fucking piece of shit hates Altuve).  The best way to piss them off more is to win more.

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