November 12, 20196 yr And I never pegged Fiers for a rat. Wonder who the other anonymous sources are besides Taubman.
November 12, 20196 yr 7 minutes ago, Mack Tripper said: And I never pegged Fiers for a rat. Wonder who the other anonymous sources are besides Taubman. He's definitely shown signs of being a bitch. https://www.crawfishboxes.com/2016/7/19/12227610/mike-fiers-sparks-dustup-in-astros-clubhouse-after-being-taken-out-in
November 12, 20196 yr If the Astros were that blatant, I expect lots of teams were doing the same thing.
November 12, 20196 yr Good for us. I have no problem with sign stealing in any form whatsoever. It's part of baseball. If you don't like it, hide your shit better.
November 12, 20196 yr 13 minutes ago, David Dennison said: Good for us. I have no problem with sign stealing in any form whatsoever. It's part of baseball. If you don't like it, hide your shit better. Edited November 12, 20196 yr by huge
November 12, 20196 yr 5 minutes ago, David Dennison said: It's precisely how it works. Good for us. Having everyone out to get us is not a good strategy. And sometimes the ends don't justify the means, right?
November 12, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, huge said: Having everyone out to get us is not a good strategy. And sometimes the ends don't justify the means, right? It means you're on top. See: the Patriots.
November 12, 20196 yr 5 minutes ago, David Dennison said: It means you're on top. See: the Patriots. Cute. That is obviously the only explanation.
November 12, 20196 yr I'm almost 100% certain that it was Beltran and Cora that started the sign stealing in 2017. Beltran was struggling early in 2017 and he had played for a lot of different teams. Not a lot of other Astros on that 2017 team had played for any other organization than the Astros and Reddick was on fire to start the 2017 season. Cora, is also obvious because he told MLB about the Astros in the 2018 playoffs(i.e. he knew because they were probably doing the same thing in 2017), and he was seen on TV watching Morton warm up before a game where Boston lit him up. Edited November 12, 20196 yr by HtownHorn
November 12, 20196 yr So is anyone going to come with any proof beyond the testimony of bitter ex-employees?
November 12, 20196 yr 6 minutes ago, David Dennison said: So is anyone going to come with any proof beyond the testimony of bitter ex-employees? how about this
November 12, 20196 yr 6 minutes ago, David Dennison said: Fake news. Perhaps you would feel more comfortable at one of our lower stakes tables...
November 12, 20196 yr 5 hours ago, pepper brooks said: of that you can be 100 certain. Had to get this shit locked down before arb 3. Sad for him he cannot see what is going on here, but nobody will ever confuse him with being smart or self aware in any way. He is a super nice dude though. Kinda sad for him to get played like this. Maybe it took so long because they had to get the pre-nup language worked out.
November 12, 20196 yr Just now, huge said: Perhaps you would feel more comfortable at one of our lower stakes tables... Lower than professional sports as entertainment? The only people who should care about this are gamblers.
November 12, 20196 yr I guess we aren't the lovable Astros anymore. We are the villain now. I can't tell if I like this or not.
November 12, 20196 yr Looking forward to seeing how many different ways the organization is going to fuck this up.
November 12, 20196 yr 52 minutes ago, David Dennison said: Good for us. I have no problem with sign stealing in any form whatsoever. It's part of baseball. If you don't like it, hide your shit better. it didn't work very well during the World Series.
November 12, 20196 yr If you’re ok with what Houston was doing you’re a clown. Fuck cheating. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
November 12, 20196 yr Just now, Cooder said: If you’re ok with what Houston was doing you’re a clown. Fuck cheating. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'm fine with that. Cheating in professional sports does not move the needle at all for me. Never has. Never will.
November 12, 20196 yr Just now, David Dennison said: I'm fine with that. Cheating in professional sports does not move the needle at all for me. Never has. Never will. Yeah, we get it. You're above sports and consider it foolish for grown men to care about cheating or some shit like that.
November 12, 20196 yr Just now, Foosters said: Yeah, we get it. You're above sports and consider it foolish for grown men to care about cheating or some shit like that. This is 100% accurate.
November 12, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, David Dennison said: I have no problem with sign stealing in any form whatsoever. It's part of baseball. Quote Major League Baseball rules prohibit clubs from using electronic equipment to steal catchers’ signs and convey information.
November 12, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, DaysOff said: We were awful at home in 2017, so fuck it. We were 8-1 in the playoffs, 3-6 on the road.
November 12, 20196 yr 5 minutes ago, DaysOff said: We were awful at home in 2017, so fuck it. 60% win percentage in regular season and 90% in playoffs Edited November 12, 20196 yr by pacman
November 12, 20196 yr 56 minutes ago, David Dennison said: This is 100% accurate. You remind me of your avatar...
November 12, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, huge said: You remind me of your avatar... When it comes to cheating in professional sports, absolutely.
November 12, 20196 yr are there really people arguing about/defending this? three comments 1. If your team is using cameras and signals to steal signs and signal to players your organization should be penalized. Heavily. it's BS. It's indefensible 2. If you have players and staff in your dugout NOT trying to steal signs they're not doing their job. it is a huge part of the game. always has been. always will be 3. if you are caught doing either of the two above you should not be upset when you get 97 between the numbers as that is also an unwritten rule of baseball. works both ways. Love how the media singled out the astros doing this two years ago, but barely glossed over the fact that the Red Sox and Yankees have both been rumored to be doing it as well. No matter what, both of those teams are way bigger news than the Astros. Coincidence the Red Sox win the WS with the AStros former bench coach the year after he leaves? probably not. THat is not a defense or excuse for the AStros if, in fact, they were stealing signs. just an observation that they're not as big a story here, but they are the ones who pissed off the media and "purple bracelet". THey probably have earned some bad press.
November 12, 20196 yr Just now, pepper brooks said: are there really people arguing about/defending this? three comments 1. If your team is using cameras and signals to steal signs and signal to players your organization should be penalized. Heavily. it's BS. It's indefensible 2. If you have players and staff in your dugout NOT trying to steal signs they're not doing their job. it is a huge part of the game. always has been. always will be 3. if you are caught doing either of the two above you should not be upset when you get 97 between the numbers as that is also an unwritten rule of baseball. works both ways. Love how the media singled out the astros doing this two years ago, but barely glossed over the fact that the Red Sox and Yankees have both been rumored to be doing it as well. No matter what, both of those teams are way bigger news than the Astros. Coincidence the Red Sox win the WS with the AStros former bench coach the year after he leaves? probably not. THat is not a defense or excuse for the AStros if, in fact, they were stealing signs. just an observation that they're not as big a story here, but they are the ones who pissed off the media and "purple bracelet". THey probably have earned some bad press. What punishment will stop it?
November 12, 20196 yr Just now, David Dennison said: What punishment will stop it? heavy fine an loss of draft pick(s)
November 12, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, pepper brooks said: heavy fine an loss of draft pick(s) That'll probably take care of it.
November 12, 20196 yr 3 minutes ago, Ichabod said: Does MLB investigate every outfield in all 30 ballparks now for cameras? they all have cameras out there all the time for broadcast, and for scouting purposes. that is not some rogue set up, but it appears on some level they could have possible had a rogue feed. THat or someone is trying to create a story implicating the camera, but in reality they may have stolen the signs from the bench. of course, youd need a guy on second to disprove the camera wasn't the source, or there is the possibility the pitcher was tipping. lots of ways to know what pitch is coming. none of that means the astros didn't do this. none of it is proof positive they did either. Edited November 12, 20196 yr by pepper brooks
November 12, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, Mack Tripper said: And I never pegged Fiers for a rat. Wonder who the other anonymous sources are besides Taubman. fiers has been a bitch about the astros since he was left off the 2017 post season roster then traded or not re-signed. every time the astros play the a's he has some snarky shit to say. and there is basically zero shot Taubman is going to give the media anything on the astros. the media effectively "cancelled" his livelihood. not defending his actions as they were stupid, but c'mon, guy loses his career because some reporter didn't like his words? what a load of horse$hit. he has way bigger issues right now than ratting out the astros on this nonsense. Edited November 12, 20196 yr by pepper brooks
November 12, 20196 yr It happens. Every team does cheat in some form. Whether apple watches, cameras, bang sounds, or pine tar on bill of pitchers hat. If media is going to crucify the Astros then you need to hold every team, player to same standard.
November 12, 20196 yr 2019 Mike Fiers pitching at Minute Maid Park 4/7 1.2 IP 7 H 6 ER 7/23 7.2 IP 6 H 2 ER 9/9 1 IP 9 H 9 ER
November 12, 20196 yr 9 minutes ago, pepper brooks said: fiers has been a bitch about the astros since he was left off the 2017 post season roster then traded or not re-signed. every time the astros play the a's he has some snarky shit to say. and there is basically zero shot Taubman is going to give the media anything on the astros. the media effectively "cancelled" his livelihood. not defending his actions as they were stupid, but c'mon, guy loses his career because some reporter didn't like his words? what a load of horse$hit. he has way bigger issues right now than ratting out the astros on this nonsense. He lost his career because he lied to his boss about what happened, dumbass.
November 12, 20196 yr Mike Fiers-"I just want the game to be cleaned up a little bit" Also Mike Fiers-Getting caught using pine tar on his glove during his no hitter. The cheating is really not acceptable, I'm an Astros fan but I won't defend that. However, that does not change the fact that Mike Fiers is little bitch
November 12, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, David Dennison said: We were 8-1 in the playoffs, 3-6 on the road. 2 hours ago, pacman said: 60% win percentage in regular season and 90% in playoffs Every article or item I've read said that it didn't occur, if it occurred at all, during the postseason. 1 hour ago, pepper brooks said: but barely glossed over the fact that the Red Sox and Yankees have both been rumored to be doing it as well. "rumored?" The Red Sox were stone cold busted.
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