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I couldn't care less if Roger Stone is in prison or not.  I want the judge to force Trump's hand. 

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    It matters to me. A lot. As other posters have correctly said, you make that motherfucker pardon him. Make him sign his name and be held accountable in the general and the annals of history, assuming

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Correct, force Trump’s hand. Then We get to laugh as trump changes his story many times 

Well his official sentencing is happening in a couple hours.  This should get interesting.

Napolitano was already on Fox pimping for a pardon, says it's an injustice!  Tainted jury!

So much manipulation.  Not that Trump will let his co-conspirator go to prison anyway.  Trump will just use the enhancement to justify his claim that it's "not fair".

Just goes to show that DOJ is genetically and every other way incapable of arguing to apply the sentencing guidelines in anything but a draconian manner.  Except when the defendant is a snitch.

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Does it really matter what the Sentence is?  Stone will be pardoned, nearly certainly.  I guess he could sit in Jail until after the election, but with a delayed entry into prison due to the request for a new trial, Stone knows his max is a couple months. Trump wins or loses in November and Stone is pardoned.  I'm not sure it he gets pardoned before the election in all honesty.  As the pardon could produce additional political drag for Trump's reelection. Depends on Trump's level of fear in having the truth be told by Roger Stone.

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5 minutes ago, horn4life said:

Does it really matter what the Sentence is?  Stone will be pardoned, nearly certainly.  I guess he could sit in Jail until after the election, but with a delayed entry into prison due to the request for a new trial, Stone knows his max is a couple months. Trump wins or loses in November and Stone is pardoned.  I'm not sure it he gets pardoned before the election in all honesty.  As the pardon could produce additional political drag for Trump's reelection. Depends on Trump's level of fear in having the truth be told by Roger Stone.

It matters to me. A lot. As other posters have correctly said, you make that motherfucker pardon him. Make him sign his name and be held accountable in the general and the annals of history, assuming he doesn't burn all the books. And personally, I'd love to see a Judge and members of the judiciary basically tell him to fuck off and that some people in this world aren't corrupt as fuck. So yeah, it matters 

11 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Just goes to show that DOJ is genetically and every other way incapable of arguing to apply the sentencing guidelines in anything but a draconian manner.  Except when the defendant is a snitch.

I this case, I would be ok if they argued for the guillotine.

1 minute ago, Thrawn said:

 

Wait....an attorney submitted a signed document to the court, but he "can't disclose who wrote it?"  That's, ummm, interesting man.

2 minutes ago, Thrawn said:

 

Ummm, why not?

I feel like this applies, but I don't know where.

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Somebody who knows WTF is happening fill us in when it's over.

57 minutes ago, horn4life said:

Does it really matter what the Sentence is?  Stone will be pardoned, nearly certainly.  I guess he could sit in Jail until after the election, but with a delayed entry into prison due to the request for a new trial, Stone knows his max is a couple months. Trump wins or loses in November and Stone is pardoned.  I'm not sure it he gets pardoned before the election in all honesty.  As the pardon could produce additional political drag for Trump's reelection. Depends on Trump's level of fear in having the truth be told by Roger Stone.

I think it does.  If Stone gets something less than 2 years, he can probably just do the time, get a cookie when he gets out and Trump doesn't have to run any political risks in pardoning him.  If its longer than that, Trump absolutely pardons him, and will face a lot of ultimately inconsequential criticism for it.

8 minutes ago, Goredho said:

I think it does.  If Stone gets something less than 2 years, he can probably just do the time, get a cookie when he gets out and Trump doesn't have to run any political risks in pardoning him.  If its longer than that, Trump absolutely pardons him, and will face a lot of ultimately inconsequential criticism for it.

Like he gives a fuck about political risks at this point.

I can see Trump pardoning him asap.  Like, after the sentence is announced, assuming it is legal to do it that soon.

 

2 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Like he gives a fuck about political risks at this point.

I can see Trump pardoning him asap.  Like, after the sentence is announced, assuming it is legal to do it that soon.

 

like he gives a fuck what's legal

Trump will pardon him via tweet within the hour after sentencing. 

1 hour ago, Thrawn said:

 

The thread that follows from this is good:

 

If he's good to just pardon him, why get Barr to intervene at all and tweet to influence sentencing?  I think he'd like to have Stone receive a light sentence and then have to do nothing vs having to pardon him.  It ultimately doesn't matter, if he needs to pardon him he will.  But if Stone gets a light sentence, I think he doesn't pardon at all.

He could pardon him right now.

He realizes there are political consequences to his pardons.  See how he pardons a brown for every fatcat, approximately.

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40 months in prison plus 24 months probation. 

1 minute ago, hayden_horn said:

40 months in prison plus 24 months probation. 

About what I figured before all hell broke loose.

On 2/19/2020 at 9:32 AM, Dnaguy said:

It’ll be 5-7 and Trump will commute it if not outright pardon.

40 months

if only someone would have sprinkled five grams of crack on him...he would have had a mandatory minimum of five years.

Just long enough for a 67 year old Stone to squirm, but not long enough to easily justify a swift pardon to moderates.

I still think he pardons, but probably not until he faces actually having to report to prison. 

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1 minute ago, Grade of D as in David said:

Just long enough for a 67 year old Stone to squirm, but not long enough to easily justify a swift pardon to moderates.

I still think he pardons, but probably not until he faces actually having to report to prison. 

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Yep, I could also see him pardon sometime between November and January.  I don't think there is any way Stone stays in prison for that amount of time.  It would be a terrible signal to everyone else that Trump has pardon leverage with.

2 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Yep, I could also see him pardon sometime between November and January.  I don't think there is any way Stone stays in prison for that amount of time.  It would be a terrible signal to everyone else that Trump has pardon leverage with.

I was just going to say,  December either way.  He gets reelected, it takes month.  He gets ousted, it takes a month (after election).

 

pardoning Stone does create a dilemma for Trump. A pardon doesn't stop Congress from bringing Stone in for more questioning. And he can't hide behind self-incrimination if he's had a pardon. Yes, he can refuse or even lie, but then he can find himself facing jail again.

Trump hasn’t pardoned Manafort, and I don’t think he will pardon Stone. 

3 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Trump hasn’t pardoned Manafort, and I don’t think he will pardon Stone. 

They'll both be pardoned after the election.

So this guy has to go straight to jail?

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2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

They'll both be pardoned after the election.

How soon after that will they join the White House staff?

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

They'll both be pardoned after the election.

This.  He's very aware of public perception among his base.  While we know he could shoot someone and his base wouldn't care, why risk anything that could potentially turn that base?  The base does not care about Stone or Manafort that much.  They care about Trump.  So Trump will only pardon them when it's advantageous for himself to do so.  That's only after the election in November.

4 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

There's also this:

 

That is the wild card.

Trump can always try to pardon himself.

What a mess.

Initial recommendation for Stone was seven to nine years, FYI.

Michael Cohen got 4 years.

There's also this:
 


Roger gon get Epsteined while waiting on his pardon.
12 minutes ago, Player said:

 


Roger gon get Epsteined while waiting on his pardon.

 

Stone better hope Trump doesn't have a stroke snorting adderall before December.

 

10 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

pardoning Stone does create a dilemma for Trump. A pardon doesn't stop Congress from bringing Stone in for more questioning. And he can't hide behind self-incrimination if he's had a pardon. Yes, he can refuse or even lie, but then he can find himself facing jail again.

Yet, we've seen what happens to people who tell Congress to fuck off - exactly jack shit.  And do we expect the DOJ to subpoena him?  Just not going to happen.  So who's going to do the questioning? 

Yeah - nothing matters.

48 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

There's also this:

 

But he can lie and get away with it !

1 hour ago, DDD Dad said:

40 months

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