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8 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

Trump will soon tell the fake news media that he hardly knblew Roger Stone. 

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    It matters to me. A lot. As other posters have correctly said, you make that motherfucker pardon him. Make him sign his name and be held accountable in the general and the annals of history, assuming

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One of these turds needs to get a harsh sentence.  Stone would do nicely.

2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Oops. I'm wrong.  The witness tampering count carries 20 max.  So it could be higher.

Judge Jackson is a serious, tough, and well prepared federal judge who will not likely be lenient 

Show me on Nixon's head where you want me to come. 

Who’s the first to publish a post conviction article that it’s Stone’s “time in the barrel”?

What are the chances that Stone will be required to report to prison soon? Or will he most likely get to stay out of prison while waiting on his appeal?

2 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Judge Jackson is a serious, tough, and well prepared federal judge who will not likely be lenient 

Hopefully she takes his attitude into consideration.

For obvious reasons, Stone has to purchase custom hats:

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Kinda strange how many of Donald Trump's longtime friends and associates have to get their buttholes checked in correctional confinement.  So many criminals being incarcerated.  So many buttholes being checked.    

2 minutes ago, Chooky said:

Kinda strange how many of Donald Trump's longtime friends and associates have to get their buttholes checked in correctional confinement.  So many criminals being incarcerated.  So many buttholes being checked.    

Crazy how Trump could be so unlucky in choosing such criminals to surround himself with.

You mean it's a bad idea to text threats to a witness?  

12 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Judge Jackson is a serious, tough, and well prepared federal judge who will not likely be lenient 

She gave Manafort 43 months with a 20 year witness-tampering count.  I don't know how the guidelines work on this shit.  

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Amazing how many witches have been caught in the WITCH HUNT HOAX!!!!!!!

serious question, who does the president believe prosecuted Stone and who does he think found Stone guilty? Does he really not understand it was the DOJ and a unanimous jury?

1 minute ago, HenryJames said:

Oh.

Victim status initiated.

Just now, Pig Bellmont said:

serious question, who does the president believe prosecuted Stone and who does he think found Stone guilty? Does he really not understand it was the DOJ and a unanimous jury?

He does not care one whit.

 

1 minute ago, Pig Bellmont said:

serious question, who does the president believe prosecuted Stone and who does he think found Stone guilty? Does he really not understand it was the DOJ and a unanimous jury?

Oh goodie. Another impeachable offense--threatening to imprison political rivals based on made up nonsense.

Trumps gonna walk out to the two turkeys in two weeks with Roger in tow and give his buddy the free pass. 

Just now, lemonlime said:

Oh goodie. Another impeachable offense--threatening to imprison political rivals based on made up nonsense.

Never mind that the president wants to imprison people for lying. This president. 

All these douchebags who were leading the chants of LOCK HER UP.....getting LOCKED UP......

 

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So when do the redacted portions of the Mueller Report relating to Stone get released now that this is no longer an "Ongoing Matter"?  I'm really anxious to see what it says about Stone / WikiLeaks and their relationship with Russia.  If there was a substantial basis for Mueller to believe that the Trump campaign knew that it was dealing with the Russians and he just pussed out on the basis that the evidence didn't meet some ridiculously high standard, I'm going to lose my shit all over again.

 

Serious question for the legal eagles...can a President pardon anyone he wants even if he himself is implicated in the crime committed?

Hes such a fucking juvenile.

One of these days he's just gonna tweet "neener neener neener, you are a wiener."

Just now, DixonHur said:

Serious question for the legal eagles...can a President pardon anyone he wants even if he himself is implicated in the crime committed?

Yes.

36 minutes ago, Bookman said:

Good thing about Trump getting elected is it’s going to get a lot of criminals off the streets, including Trump eventually.

true on the first part; however, there will never be any meaningful consequences for Trump - certainly not prison

 

2 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Serious question for the legal eagles...can a President pardon anyone he wants even if he himself is implicated in the crime committed?

After the GOP anointed him the Burrito Supreme he can, in legal terms, "do what I want."  You do not discuss or question the Burrito Supreme.  I now have to report you for minimizing the power and glory of the Burrito Supreme.  Sorry.  I enjoyed your input and will pray for your family.

1 minute ago, Jack Straw said:

true on the first part; however, there will never be any meaningful consequences for Trump - certainly not prison

 

His tax returns will eventually be sent to authorities in NY and Congress. He’s certainly guilty of tax and insurance fraud - the only way that ultimately doesn’t get him is that he dies before a conviction 

7 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Serious question for the legal eagles...can a President pardon anyone he wants even if he himself is implicated in the crime committed?

Yes.  The pardon would be a "high crime or misdemeanor," but well brisket's ledge.

Yes.

....which would also be a clean case of obstruction.

But of course...nothing matters.
1 minute ago, Pig Bellmont said:

His tax returns will eventually be sent to authorities in NY and Congress. He’s certainly guilty of tax and insurance fraud - the only way that ultimately doesn’t get him is that he dies before a conviction 

I'd take that.

6 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yes.

 

1 minute ago, Chooky said:

After the GOP anointed him the Burrito Supreme he can, in legal terms, "do what I want."  You do not discuss or question the Burrito Supreme.  I now have to report you for minimizing the power and glory of the Burrito Supreme.  Sorry.  I enjoyed your input and will pray for your family.

 

Just now, lemonlime said:

Yes.  The pardon would be a "high crime or misdemeanor," but well brisket's ledge.

Furk

6 minutes ago, Jack Straw said:

true on the first part; however, there will never be any meaningful consequences for Trump - certainly not prison

I don't think Trump is all that different than Epstein in the eyes of those who might be concerned that Trump might stand trial.

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39 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

Looks like potential 30 years max

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15 minutes ago, Bruh Man said:

Weird take.

There's a lot of cigarettes to be made in that business

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Just now, DixonHur said:

There's a lot of cigarettes to be made in that business

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33 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

Yes.  The pardon would be a "high crime or misdemeanor," but well brisket's ledge.

Yeah, there's reference in the Federalist papers or the debates about imprudent or corrupt use of the pardon being an impeachable offense.

1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah, there's reference in the Federalist papers or the debates about imprudent or corrupt use of the pardon being an impeachable offense.

I’ve often thought that allowing the president unlimited pardon power was a grave mistake but then I realize when the constitution was written they didn’t foresee the huge escalation into the criminalization by federal law. 

If trump pardons stone or Manafort it should absolutely be included in the articles of impeachment. 

2 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

I’ve often thought that allowing the president unlimited pardon power was a grave mistake but then I realize when the constitution was written they didn’t foresee the huge escalation into the criminalization by federal law. 

If trump pardons stone or Manafort it should absolutely be included in the articles of impeachment. 

Good point.

38 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

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Mad(e) Men.

I think it's a bit unproven of the limits of the pardon power.

Regardless a pardon doesn't mean that Stone still can't be compelled to testify against Trump or others. In fact, it could remove the potential for Stone to plead the 5th.  If he can't be incriminated, then he can't hide behind that right. If he fails to testify in that regard, or lies (again), then he's once again open to prosecution.

If Trump starts to throw pardons out there, he puts himself at risk.

1 hour ago, Longhornfan1024 said:

I hope he dies in prison.

You [also] mean Trump, right?

1 hour ago, Chooky said:

Kinda strange how many of Donald Trump's longtime friends and associates have to get their buttholes checked in correctional confinement.  So many criminals being incarcerated.  So many buttholes being checked.    

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