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It is a little funny that not a single player will be punished, though not surprising.

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1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Thanks. We like it. Ain’t no asterisk on it. 

You're right, there are many many asterisks on it

4 minutes ago, UnivTex34 said:

Only Astros fans believe that. 

 

*City

Exactly.  Shit is tainted, yo.

9 minutes ago, shnsajax said:

It is a little funny that not a single player will be punished, though not surprising.

My guess is that they didn't want to punish anyone who told the truth about the cheating to the the commissioner. And it sounds like they interviews a ton of current and former players

Just now, clapclapclap said:

Owner fired Hinch and Luhnow.

say Hinch does a year in the TV booth and wants to get back into baseball; is the suspension only  expiring while he is actively hired or is it simply a year out of baseball?

Gonna be a challenge for anyone to want to hire him and then wait a fucking year.

Owner fired Hinch and Luhnow.


Red Sox might as well fire Cora now.
Owner fired Hinch and Luhnow.


Red Sox might as well fire Cora now.
Owner fired Hinch and Luhnow.


Red Sox might as well fire Cora now.
Just now, shnsajax said:

 


Red Sox might as well fire Cora now.

 

You can say that again

 

1 minute ago, Iceman said:

say Hinch does a year in the TV booth and wants to get back into baseball; is the suspension only  expiring while he is actively hired or is it simply a year out of baseball?

Gonna be a challenge for anyone to want to hire him and then wait a fucking year.

Taubaum is listed as ineligible for any MLB team until after the 2020 WS. I would assume it would work the same for Hinch and Luhnow now

43 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Fuck the rest of the league...as if they're Charmin clean.  LOlz.

Cool your fucking jets, Mongo -- the league is still investigating Boston, which is why they didn't announce a Cora penalty.  You'd know that if you bothered to read the report.

Between yesterday and today, Houston sports bringing the lulz! Thank you, Houston

7 minutes ago, Iceman said:

say Hinch does a year in the TV booth

TV isn't gonna touch him right now.

Just now, Sbbruin said:

TV isn't gonna touch him right now.

yeah.  Toxic AF.

Out of baseball forever?  What can he do to make it right, or is that possible?

1 minute ago, Iceman said:

yeah.  Toxic AF.

Out of baseball forever?  What can he do to make it right, or is that possible?

Who cares?

2 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

Who cares?

you do.  you keepin up, bro?

 

Not legit questions for the amount of talent both men have?  It's not like I'm pining for their redemption.  LOlz.

It'll be interesting to see what happens to them.

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Damn announcing this after yesterday’s choke is kinda harsh

Just now, Quagmire said:

Damn announcing this after yesterday’s choke is kinda harsh

Bill O'Brien thinks the timing couldn't be better.

Tonight’s NC game will get a lot of the sports world off it quickly though. 

4 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

Whoa, Astros mascot Orbit also fired.  Likely replaced by Oscar the Grouch.

Make sense.  They have a trash can for Oscar that would otherwise be unused this season.

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HOUSTON -- Major League Baseball cleared the Astros of any wrongdoing after a team employee was removed from a Fenway Park photo well during Game 1 of the ALCS.

"You're not allowed to use technology in the aid of sign stealing," Astros GM Jeff Luhnow said before Game 4 of the ALCS at Minute Maid Park. "It's a very clear policy. We understand it. We abide by it. We have abided by it. We plan to continue abiding by it.

"That being said, there's a lot of technology in ballparks these days," Luhnow added. "Video cameras and high-speed cameras. High magnification cameras, etc. Monitors showing live feeds. So when we go into an opposing ballpark, we tend to look around and make sure we don't see any suspicious activity."

Luhnow said he had no issues with the Red Sox using technology to steal signs at Fenway Park during Games 1 and 2.

"Like I said, when we go into a new environment we keep our eyes open, look around and we try to make sure everything is the way it should be," Luhnow said. "So no particular concerns at Fenway Park. It's just the ALCS. These games matter a lot."

Luhnow said the Astros have been doing this for "a while."

"Most of time when we see something suspicious, we look into it," Luhnow said. "And it's a fan doing something or a monitor that for some reason should be there, used for a good purpose. But every once in a while, and there have been multiple instances of us identifying suspicious activity."

Lunhow said the Astros have reported suspicious activity to MLB. In some cases, they have looked into themselves.

"MLB prefer we don't look into it ourselves," Luhnow said. "If we see something suspicious, we relay it to them. And we're going to abide by that going forward. That's essentially what happened. We were playing defense. We we were not playing offense."

Luhnow acknowledged Red Sox manager Alex Cora, who served as Astros bench coach last year, knows what the Astros are doing.

"He worked for us last year. So clearly he knows everything that we're doing," Luhnow said. "And that's the way it works in baseball. Players and coaches and front office members go from one organization to another from one year to the next. So I think everybody has a general feeling for what's going on."

Luhnow added the Astros have prided themselves on following the rules.

"And making sure that it's a level playing field. That's going to continue," he said.

 

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NEW YORK – Astros manager AJ Hinch took offense to the notion his team was using whistles to steal signs in Game 1 of the American League Championship Series against the Yankees on Saturday at Minute Maid Park. Major League Baseball investigated the accusations levied by the Yanks and has cleared the Astros of any wrongdoing.

That didn’t stop Hinch on Thursday from blasting those responsible for the allegations, which suggested someone in Houston's dugout was whistling to batters to alert them of which pitch was coming. He said those who believe the Astros have been cheating should come forward publicly. Hinch said the allegations are “a joke.”

“It made me laugh because it's ridiculous,” he said. “And had I known that it would take something like that to set off the Yankees or any other team, we would have practiced it in Spring Training. It apparently works, even when it doesn't happen. So to me, I understand the gamesmanship. I understand kind of creating a narrative for yourself or wondering how things are going.”

“The problem I have is when other people take shots at us outside this competition,” Hinch said. “When you guys ask me this question, my face, my name is by my quotes. My opinions, my reaction is all for you guys to tweet out and put on the broadcast. But we have people that are unnamed, or you guys have sources that are giving you information. I suggest they put their name by it if they're so passionate about it, to comment about my team or my players.

“There's nothing going on other than the competition on the field. The fact that I had to field the question before a really, really cool game at Yankee Stadium is unfortunate. But we can put it to rest. That will be the last question I answer about pitch-tipping or pitch-stealing.”

 

Seeing plenty of arguments that the punishments are light.  Not sure, need to think more on it.

However, 5 million bucks would be life changing for me, but seems like chump change for an MLB team.  I know the suspensions/picks are supposed to have the impact, so not sure why that throw that in.

And yeah, the players involved should have received some punishments as well.

So Luhnow's last act as GM was giving Osuna a $10M contract for next year to avoid arbitration?

If so, seems fitting...

The 5M was the max fine allowed.  Allegedly.

28 minutes ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

Seeing plenty of arguments that the punishments are light.  Not sure, need to think more on it.

However, 5 million bucks would be life changing for me, but seems like chump change for an MLB team.  I know the suspensions/picks are supposed to have the impact, so not sure why that throw that in.

And yeah, the players involved should have received some punishments as well.

First and second round draft picks for two straight years and the loss of that slot money hurts a lot.  Not to mention the front office is now gutted.   It’s pretty painful.   

24 minutes ago, huge said:

The 5M was the max fine allowed.  Allegedly.

 

Ah, thanks.  They might want to re-write that max at some point.

 

 

1 hour ago, shnsajax said:

 


Red Sox might as well fire Cora now.

 

Yup - he’s going to be given at least a year off

sounds like we need to add a clause to the "sign" in the dugout.  wonder if AJ makes the hall?

22 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

First and second round draft picks for two straight years and the loss of that slot money hurts a lot.  Not to mention the front office is now gutted.   It’s pretty painful.   

We'll get over it.

Having an absolutely loaded roster will make it a little easier.

48 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

We'll get over it.

Having an absolutely loaded roster will make it a little easier.

The Astros run as a contender will end for a very long time after 2021. They won’t spend to keep any of that core together. Cheaters never prosper.

6 minutes ago, Helobious said:

The Astros run as a contender will end for a very long time after 2021. They won’t spend to keep any of that core together. Cheaters never prosper.

Except that they already have Bregman, Altuve, and Alvarez locked in for a while.  Offensively, they will be OK.  Pitching will be the trick beyond ‘21.  

1 hour ago, Guadaloopy said:

First and second round draft picks for two straight years and the loss of that slot money hurts a lot.  Not to mention the front office is now gutted.   It’s pretty painful.   

eh means nothing unless MLB revokes the Series.  Smart move on their part.

2017* World Series(cheaters)

1993-94*NBA champs(no Jordan)

22 minutes ago, Helobious said:

The Astros run as a contender will end for a very long time after 2021. They won’t spend to keep any of that core together. Cheaters never prosper.

Except for the Patriots.  And Alabama.  And Clemson.  And LSU.  And Duke basketball.  But yeah, cheaters never prosper.

so were they doing it during the 2017 season also? 

31 minutes ago, Helobious said:

The Astros run as a contender will end for a very long time after 2021. They won’t spend to keep any of that core together. Cheaters never prosper.

The Yankees being the exception?

Or did you conveniently forget about how extensively they benefited from PEDs?

6 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

so were they doing it during the 2017 season also? 

Yup

That season is kinda the reason for this whole thing. 

1 hour ago, immortal13 said:

Yup

I thought it was just post season.  wow.  I guess Altuve's MVP is in question also.

12 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I thought it was just post season.  wow.  I guess Altuve's MVP is in question also.

It should be

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