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I hope this eats Jerry up inside. This is not on Jason Garrett. This is on you for keeping Jason Garrett around for as long as you did.

1 minute ago, Rougarou said:

Lessons learned:

* we suck

 

That's all you had to say

1 minute ago, Rougarou said:

Lessons learned:

* Jason Garrett is not and has never been the guy

* Overpaid for Zeke but he’s probably being blamed too much for this seasons failures though he didn’t do too much to help his cause

* Dak doesn’t suck, but he’s not that good either. Paying him would be repeating the same mistake as paying for Zeke but worse. maybe we can let Dak walk and pick up Jamies or Marriotta on the cheap and hope they are Tannehill2.0 with our new coach?

* Promote Gallup to #1, draft a WR in a rich WR draft class and let Amari walk

* We believed the defensive secondary was something it’s not in the off-season with Cheto and Jourdan and Byron and we never amended the opinion and strategy 9 weeks ago when it was abundantly clear they weren’t what we thought they were and can’t do what we thought they could (and would need to, to win). Needs to be addressed.

* Sean Lee sucks; it’s a shame because he was epic at one point and we were robbed of his prime by injuries.

* LVE went completely backwards this year.

* we suck

 

We just need a good head coach. That said, looks to me like Dak's heart isn't in Dallas.

Keep your 90 million dollar RB in there in a meaningless game you are up 30 in ...you brainless dickless morons 

Number 1 offense in nfl 2 1000 yard rec 5k yards passing. 1K yard rusher. Clawing your way to .500

Just now, Sgt Hulk said:

Lol let amari walk.   Ok

As opposed to paying him. I think so. If we pay him and we pay Dak we will be over leveraged and will be the Rams next year.

its amazing they stuck with that choke artist Maher.  anyone that has watched football for any length of time could see he was awful.  that is totally on Jerry.

Has to be the weirdest two years for Jason Witten and I’d be curious what his psychological state is after weathering them: 1) He leaves football (abruptly, even?) and immediately jumps into a high profile commentator role which he is ill-fitted for (at least without any training or gaining experience) and is roasted for it. Leaves in disgrace.

Goes back to playing football where he is clearly a liability (drops, slow, etc.) and is just hanging on by a Combination of a thread and Mother Jerry’s mercy.

Id be scared to death to go into coaching next year because I’d have known nothing but defeat and embarrassment and struggle in anything I’ve tried to do for the last two career choices. I think I’d be suffering with self doubt. 

1 minute ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

Don't sign Dak and Trade Zeke and draft picks to Cinn for next years number one pick.

no one is going to take zeke's contract.  we are stuck with him.  his play isn't really the issue though. he's about 6th on the list.

Just now, dcar00 said:

no one is going to take zeke's contract.  we are stuck with him.  his play isn't really the issue though. he's about 6th on the list.

Agreed it could be worse (see: Gurley, Todd).

2 minutes ago, Rougarou said:

Has to be the weirdest two years for Jason Witten and I’d be curious what his psychological state is after weathering them: 1) He leaves football (abruptly, even?) and immediately jumps into a high profile commentator role which he is ill-fitted for (at least without any training or gaining experience) and is roasted for it. Leaves in disgrace.

Goes back to playing football where he is clearly a liability (drops, slow, etc.) and is just hanging on by a Combination of a thread and Mother Jerry’s mercy.

Id be scared to death to go into coaching next year because I’d have known nothing but defeat and embarrassment and struggle in anything I’ve tried to do for the last two career choices. I think I’d be suffering with self doubt. 

And there is the part where my son's basketball team took down his son's basketball team in the semifinals of the Southlake bring your own team league last February.  I've seen him coach, he kind of sucks.

1 minute ago, Surly Bevo said:

And there is the part where my son's basketball team took down his son's basketball team in the semifinals of the Southlake bring your own team league last February.  I've seen him coach, he kind of sucks.

Grew up in Southlake during the LJH era so this hits close to home.

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Amari has had a bad knee all year. He is elite if all is functioning. Wait till April to determine if knee gets better. If not cut bait. 

does some asshole really get paid to rush up and take an up close in your face photo of an 8-8 coach that just won a meaningless game at the end of the season

So does it get announced tonight or tomorrow? 

3 minutes ago, ButtFumble said:

10 seasons

Clap, clap, clap

1 minute ago, Mo Horn said:

So does it get announced tonight or tomorrow? 

"we'll review things and get back with you after our Tuesday meetings...  We're not going to rush or overreact."

#skeletorMO

Just now, Irish Wrist Watch said:

8-8. Just like Garrett's first three years.

zero major injuries except for LVE.  even if everything is perfect he can't do it.  what a disaster.  at least 5 years wasted hoping he was anything other than an average NFL coach.

27 minutes ago, mdmost said:

10 wasted years will finally come to an end. 

Which followed about 15 other wasted years, only worse. Probably more to come.

5 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Meh. He’s overrated. Always been good. Never as good as his contemporaries.  I’m just sick of him and want everyone in this era of mediocrity gone and not celebrated.  

way fucking wrong on this take...

This year sucked, but his career didn't.

13 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

It’s pretty amazing and shows how much Garrett fucks the team with his situational coaching.  Dallas will finish the season:

1. Having gained over 100 yards per game on offense more than they allowed on defense.

2.  Gaining nearly a full 1.5 yards more per play on offense than they allowed on defense.

3. Top 10 in scoring offense, and in or near the top 10 in scoring defense (they entered today ranked 11th).

4.  Outscoring their opponents by an average of 7 points per game. 
 

All of this profiles to like an 11-5 or 12-4 season.  But they managed to make it an 8-8 year through poor situational coaching, sticking with a terrible kicker who cost them a bunch of points, and generally shooting themselves in the foot at just the right moments. 

Heard on the radio that the Seahawks at 11-3 are 10-1 in one possession score games with 2 OT wins, 4 wins with 4 or less, etc.

It’s really a game of inches.

27 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Zeke is the least of this team’s problems and Dak is decent. Good not great and probably never will be. You fucking pay him over getting a guy like Winston or Mariota. Agree on Gallup and letting Amari walk - if you can retain Cobb. Lee was much better than LVE or Jaylon this year. I wouldn’t mind replacing all of them and devoting draft resources to lineman particularly DL. Also, Witten needs to go and not be a coach here. 

I’d rather have a mediocre QB at mediocre cost than pay Dak $33-35mm a year. If Dak is not the guy and we agree he isn’t, then why pay him? I’m not paying for great leadership capabilities without great football capabilities. But I like that he isNt ghetto

1 minute ago, Dr. Beeper said:

His career didn’t suck. I never said so. He was never as good as Gonzalez or Gates or later Gronk or Kelce or Ertz. He’s probably a HOFer because he’s high profile and a Cowboy. I think he had a great career. I also think he’s overrated. 

He’s a hall of famer because he’s number 2 all time on two big time Stat columns. Don’t let your emotions make you a dumbass.

Think you give Dak a chance to see what he can do under new coaching before throwing in the towel on him.  

There are about 12 QBs on the planet better than Dak. Can't gamble on some college kid at 17th overall that he will be a future top 10 QB.

So wtf was Witten celebrating there at the end?

You just finished the year 8-8 and missed the playoffs, which has to be considered a terrible disappointment given the potential and payroll, yet you're pumping your fist and exhorting the crowd repeatedly?

Wtf ever, man.

1 minute ago, Braff Zacklin said:

So wtf was Witten celebrating there at the end?

You just finished the year 8-8 and missed the playoffs, which has to be considered a terrible disappointment given the potential and payroll, yet you're pumping your fist and exhorting the crowd repeatedly?

Wtf ever, man.

It's his last game with JG as head coach?

3 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

So wtf was Witten celebrating there at the end?

You just finished the year 8-8 and missed the playoffs, which has to be considered a terrible disappointment given the potential and payroll, yet you're pumping your fist and exhorting the crowd repeatedly?

Wtf ever, man.

“I just proved a guy on Surly wrong, I’m going to Disney world!”

Freddie Kichens was just fired, so apparently you don’t have to wait until Monday to do these things, Jerry.

13 minutes ago, Underdog said:

Think you give Dak a chance to see what he can do under new coaching before throwing in the towel on him.  

The problem in “giving him a chance” is committing a few hundred million dollars to signing him. This was the year to give him a chance with a new coach. The give him a chance ship has sailed. If Dallas does not sign him to big money someone else will. 

you are fucking high, and not in a good way either...

1 hour ago, Rougarou said:

Lessons learned:

* Jason Garrett is not and has never been the guy

* Overpaid for Zeke but he’s probably being blamed too much for this seasons failures though he didn’t do too much to help his cause

* Dak doesn’t suck, but he’s not that good either. Paying him would be repeating the same mistake as paying for Zeke but worse. maybe we can let Dak walk and pick up Jamies or Marriotta on the cheap and hope they are Tannehill2.0 with our new coach?

* Promote Gallup to #1, draft a WR in a rich WR draft class and let Amari walk

* We believed the defensive secondary was something it’s not in the off-season with Cheto and Jourdan and Byron and we never amended the opinion and strategy 9 weeks ago when it was abundantly clear they weren’t what we thought they were and can’t do what we thought they could (and would need to, to win). Needs to be addressed.

* Sean Lee sucks; it’s a shame because he was epic at one point and we were robbed of his prime by injuries.

* LVE went completely backwards this year.

* we suck

 

Jameis wants 30m or more.  Mariota is just bad and broken.  Let Amari walk after spending a 1st on him last year?  I mean, there are a lot of curious opinions here.

The difficult part is because he signed Elliott, we're fucked because he was always going to sign Dak and as long as Amari (who seems the most open to taking a little less) isn't asking for Michael Thomas money, he is going to stay.  I think we're going to see some guys like Jones be allowed to walk.  Tyronn Smith in 2021 might be cut.  Frederick if he doesn't get all the way back may be let go after a year or two.... Jerrah went all in when he extended Elliott and it may fuck the cap for 4-5 years.  You can argue he went all in when he drafted a RB in the top 5.

 

16 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

So wtf was Witten celebrating there at the end?

You just finished the year 8-8 and missed the playoffs, which has to be considered a terrible disappointment given the potential and payroll, yet you're pumping your fist and exhorting the crowd repeatedly?

Wtf ever, man.

He just got accepted to the Hair Club for Men.

5 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

They can franchise tag him for a year, can't they? 

They can.  Expected to be in the 30 million neighborhood.

 

Right, a lot of money but not locking themselves into a long-term deal yet. I would think that's the move with the new coach coming in.

He could also Laveon Bell it if the tag gets used, but I don't see Dak doing that.

1 hour ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Meh. He’s overrated. Always been good. Never as good as his contemporaries.  I’m just sick of him and want everyone in this era of mediocrity gone and not celebrated.  

Jesus Christ are you fucking stupid 

Okay, he’s a HOFer in his own right. But he was rarely a Top 3 TE in any season he played. All those guys I mentioned were better. As was Sharpe and will be Kittle. He’s not as great as Cowboys fans want to believe. 
If you just look at his receiving numbers you completely miss his run blocking and pass blocking prowess.

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