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RIP Black Mamba: Kobe Bryant dead in helicopter crash CONFIRMED

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All the local news stations out here have preempted regular coverage and are covering this story.  Latest word = Kobe and daughter among the 5 dead along with another young player on the same team as Kobe's daughter plus that player's parent, and then of course the pilot.  One station said they are very familiar with the local copter pilot community because of all the news-related work they often do, and they have a good idea who the pilot was but can't release anything at present.  They also said that if the pilot was who they think it was, the dude was extremely well qualified and had the highest pilot certification possible.

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2 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

 

No way am I gonna watch that.

Only good news to come out of this is that initial reports that four of his daughters were on board were false.

Life is precious ... and short. Sad day.

1 minute ago, Pasken said:

Why is the school district he attended in Philly 20 years ago holding a press conference? Does his kids go there now?

Because this hits really close to home.

 

For real.

2 minutes ago, LonghornSean said:

 

Very classy.  Heard Popovich was behind it, and that doesn't surprise me at all.  He and Kobe had enormous respect for each other.

Why were they flying in this shit?

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2 minutes ago, Deej said:

Why were they flying in this shit?

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Yeah sadness turns to anger fast.  I’m holding out for more facts but this seems like a needless tragedy.  Fuck

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2 minutes ago, Deej said:

Why were they flying in this shit?

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I think the better question is why weren't they flying via instruments. 

2 minutes ago, Deej said:

Why were they flying in this shit?

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Probably mix of pressure On the pilot and overconfidence from the pilot

I can’t imagine trying to pop over from the LAX-Santa Monica area over the mountains to Thousand Oaks in that weather.

Not clear from that radar, but it almost seems as if they were circling to wait for a break in visibility (or clearance to proceed), then dragging along the ridge to find a clearing. The whole thing seems foolhardy. Just a senseless tragedy.  

13 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

He'll be inducted at the very next opportunity - sucks that it will be posthumously.

This was his first year on the ballot along with Timmy and KG. All 3 are first ballot guys. 

 

1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

God damn. No fucking shit. At least in an airplane, you can trick yourself into believing that the pilot will glide you into a nice, Sully emergency landing if something goes wrong.

An old friend's dad was a navy pilot, later flew for a major carrier, and somehow found time to practice aviation law which involved him in many high profile crash cases.

The one piece of advice from him that sticks with me: never fly in a helicopter.

Stevie Ray Vaughn's death was all the convincing I needed.

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That flightpath makes it look like the pilot was almost hugging the the hillsides until impact. Seems that the pilot may have been disoriented and using the hillside topography as his visual? Crazy...

 

1 hour ago, Deej said:

Kobe, Stevie Ray, fuck helicopters. 

This sums up my thoughts

Seems very odd. I know if I was flying in a fixed wing in that weather I’d be IFR the whole way. Not sure how the rules work with helicopters and weather. 

20 minutes ago, NAVY said:

The fuck?

When he moved to Orange County he started using the helicopter regularly to circumvent traffic on the 405, 5 etc 

9 minutes ago, Txzen said:

I can’t imagine trying to pop over from the LAX-Santa Monica area over the mountains to Thousand Oaks in that weather.

Not clear from that radar, but it almost seems as if they were circling to wait for a break in visibility (or clearance to proceed), then dragging along the ridge to find a clearing. The whole thing seems foolhardy. Just a senseless tragedy.  

Heard one report a while back which indicated the pilot may have actually been trying to turn around.

Amazing. They were VFR. At the end of the recording you hear ATC say they have a special VFR helicopter holding. 
 

 

14 minutes ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

An old friend's dad was a navy pilot, later flew for a major carrier, and somehow found time to practice aviation law which involved him in many high profile crash cases.

The one piece of advice from him that sticks with me: never fly in a helicopter.

Stevie Ray Vaughn's death was all the convincing I needed.

Fucking this 

1 hour ago, Wally Pryor said:

TMZ:

12:35 PM PT -- Kobe's daughter Gianna Maria -- aka GiGi -- was also on board the helicopter and died in the crash ... reps for Kobe tell TMZ Sports. She was 13.

We're told they were on their way to the Mamba Academy for a basketball practice when the crash occurred. The Academy is in nearby Thousand Oaks.

No, no, no, no......

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If video is truly correct, i cant imagine the fear and terror they were going thru. Very sad day.

God damn that sucks, what is a horrible way to go.  You could not pay me enough money to get in a helicopter.

I hope it was quick

2 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

God damn that sucks, what is a horrible way to go.  You could not pay me enough money to get in a helicopter.

I’ve done it a couple times.  Never again.  Also what’s VFR?  I’m not thinking clearly.  
 

edit:  visual vs instrument flight.  Got it 

Edited by ChiTownDoc

visual flight rules, flying by sight not by instrument (IFR)

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1 hour ago, whoopspat said:

 

Ok my totally amateur assessment of this it looks like they struggled circling and losing altitude in the middle of the flight, got it together and pressed on?

Very tragic. The age gets me. We essentially came up at the same time. 

Local news just said the other adult and daughter in the crash is from Orange County. A local small college baseball coach and his daughter.  A vigil is being held at the college in the OC right now 

2 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

I’ve done it a couple times.  Never again.  Also what’s VFR?  I’m not thinking clearly.  
 

edit:  visual vs instrument flight.  Got it 

Cool, you can check that off your list of things to never do again.

Judging by the video of the flight path and the weather, did the pilot just fly into the side of the mountain without knowing it?

5 minutes ago, Jshep34 said:

If video is truly correct, i cant imagine the fear and terror they were going thru. Very sad day.

What video? The one where they circled in a holding pattern for 10 minutes then continued on? Hard to think it seemed like anything other than business as usual up to that point.

1 minute ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Judging by the video of the flight path and the weather, did the pilot just fly into the side of the mountain without knowing it?

If u have 2 miles visibility and ur going super slow and taking ur time, there should be zero reason u should blindside into a mountain in a helicopter

 

airplane, sure, but not a helo

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They were flying to a 2 pm game that the girls were playing in. My god 

5 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Ok my totally amateur assessment of this it looks like they struggled circling and losing altitude in the middle of the flight, got it together and pressed on?

Very tragic. The age gets me. We essentially came up at the same time. 

Listening to the audio - they were on a hold at the Burbank area (that's the circling for 15min). They were cleared for '118 West' which they followed. I'm not clear if the plan was to go south and follow the 101 towards Thousand Oaks or not. But it looks like that's the way they were headed.

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2 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Ok my totally amateur assessment of this it looks like they struggled circling and losing altitude in the middle of the flight, got it together and pressed on?

Very tragic. The age gets me. We essentially came up at the same time. 

I think they were holding near Burbank waiting to land then for some reason said fuck it and went towards van nuys. But van nuys was also ifr and not really close to where they crashed. 

3 minutes ago, Helobious said:

What video? The one where they circled in a holding pattern for 10 minutes then continued on? Hard to think it seemed like anything other than business as usual up to that point.

They were being held outside class C space waiting for transit instructions since they were special VFR. Special VFR for fixed wing means the pilot requests VFR even though weather conditions are below IFR minimums. 
 

Edit: I say fixed wing because I do not know anything about helicopters. 

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Judging by the video of the flight path and the weather, did the pilot just fly into the side of the mountain without knowing it?

There are videos of the crash, they seemed to spin uncontrollably and fall to the floor.
2 minutes ago, Txzen said:

Listening to the audio - they were on a hold at the Burbank area (that's the circling for 15min). They were cleared for '118 West' which they followed. I'm not clear if the plan was to go south and follow the 101 towards Thousand Oaks or not. But it looks like that's the way they were headed.

I’m a complete moron with flying anything but if it gets bad w a chopper unless you’re low on fuel how does one run into a mountain?  Just circle in place or lower to follow roads?

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