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3 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

So, yeah.  If Cohen taped Trump....and Cohen was the deputy finance chair of the GOP (or whatever his title was)....wonder if he taped calls with GOP officials that might be noteworthy?

Or, with the companies who he "consulted."

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  • If it's revealed he lied I'm as positive about anything that Brisket Goth wouldn't hesitate even a second to call him a pants on fire doo doo head. But what's fascinating here is your sudden into

I would think that once an attorney tapes a client once, why wouldn't he do it every time or at least every time when he felt he needed to protect himself.    Once you break your standard, policy, law, morals, etc. the first time, the second time is much easier.

What are the odds dotus pulls a Bud Dwyer when shit really starts to hit the fan?

12 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

Poor Lanny’s under the impression that the actual substance of the tapes will change trump’s supporters’ impression of trump. That’s cute.

4 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Maybe if the client pays their bills like a slot machine with an extra bonus every bill might I consider keeping a client like that.

This is why everyone hates lawyers.

41 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

What are the odds dotus pulls a Bud Dwyer when shit really starts to hit the fan?

0.0%

He’s like Theon Greyjoy 

A traitor idiot that is also a coward when the shit hits the fan.

 

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Until Trump mentioned "tapes" 18 months ago, who the hell ever used tape to record anything?  Now all of a sudden everything is on tape?  Get the fuck out of here.

Hypothetical: if a client leaks privileged communication, would that waive the privilege?

This is why everyone hates lawyers.
I think you missed the point.

In ANY industry, some clients aren't worth the standard rates.

I've got a feeling you have a hard time getting people to work for you...
21 minutes ago, woohorn said:

I think you missed the point.

In ANY industry, some clients aren't worth the standard rates.

I've got a feeling you have a hard time getting people to work for you...

No, he made it pretty clear that if a dirty client pays the bills on time and gives an extra dash, he's ok with it.

That's why 98% of non lawyers hate lawyers.

1 minute ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

It’s that 98% that gives the rest of us a bad name. 

To your advantage it seems like 90% of the professional community are lawyers so you have that going for you.

 

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

I dunno, man. The Deep State can easily fake audio recordings. Valerie Jarrett drove and George Soros funded that technological invention. 

 

New low for the libs. 

22 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

It’s that 98% that gives the rest of us a bad name. 

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another cross post.  apologies to anyone that's offended

 

 

Hypothetical: if a client leaks privileged communication, would that waive the privilege?


yes...the client “owns” the privilege. any disclosure of a privileged conversation is deemed to waive the privilege and opens the door for questioning and eventual full disclosure using other rules (e.g. optional completeness, et al).

I am not a fan of the way things are proceeding with Cohen.  I feel like we’re watching a bad breakup between two children that were never emotionally prepared to handle each other.

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11 hours ago, Hornmatic said:

Hypothetical: if a client leaks privileged communication, would that waive the privilege?

Yes.  The client owns the privilege.

17 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

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What is the difference in using information gained through phone taps or using info gained through Cambridge Analytic?  The second just seems more technologically advanced. 

Of course he calls out Obama for the former, but no one for the latter. 

And that line about "very sacred election process.  This is Nixon/Watergate"  How very projection-isty. 

Not to mention Obama didn't order Trump's "wires tapped".

So is it pretty much agreed that trump and co released the tape and corresponding anonymous quotes like “trump can’t believe Mike did this to him?”

20 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

Honestly, no.  I'd fire that client long before we got to the point of me recording him.

Which is probably why I can't imagine recording a client conversation.

OK, now try this...

What if you weren't smart. What if you were really really stupid.

What then? lol

9 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

So is it pretty much agreed that trump and co released the tape and corresponding anonymous quotes like “trump can’t believe Mike did this to him?”

Something like that, yep.

2 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

Yes.  The client owns the privilege.

More than that, you can't really only partially waive privilege. If there is other related material out there, privilege is probably waived to it as well. I am not sure Trump's team thought this through. 

11 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Something like that, yep.

I'm thoroughly confused. How could they think that'd be helpful?

The fact that Rudy thinks it's exculpatory probably helps explain the strategy.  Maybe not, I'm not an old insane but shitty attorney.

15 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

More than that, you can't really only partially waive privilege. If there is other related material out there, privilege is probably waived to it as well. I am not sure Trump's team thought this through. 

what evidence is there that they've thought anything through?  this whole thing has been a hodge-podge.

15 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The fact that Rudy thinks it's exculpatory probably helps explain the strategy.  Maybe not, I'm not an old insane but shitty attorney.

Melania is so making bank with her new deal with the Donald

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48 minutes ago, bolverk said:

I'm thoroughly confused. How could they think that'd be helpful?

Trump gets to control the narrative instead of the information coming out some other way.  

It’s the same reason Don Jr. tweeted out his emails about the conspiracy meeting in Trump Tower.

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Trump gets to control the narrative instead of the information coming out some other way.  

It’s the same reason Don Jr. tweeted out his emails about the conspiracy meeting in Trump Tower.

Yes.  Which also means that there is more to the story than meets the eye.   

Just coming out now that the FBI found 12 audio recordings from their previous raid. 

4 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

Just coming out now that the FBI found 12 audio recordings from their previous raid. 

And privilege has been waived on all 12 of them.

6 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

*at least* 12. Special Master still reviewing items 

Link?

 

On 7/21/2018 at 11:08 AM, jimmyjazz said:

The fact that Rudy thinks it's exculpatory probably helps explain the strategy.  Maybe not, I'm not an old insane but shitty attorney.

Or Rudy's lying.  he thinks tapes in the FBI's possession won't ever see the light of day.  And even if the tapes do get released the GOP base will believe Rudy even with documentary evidence that Rudy lied.

Meanwhile, we're discussing the tapes and not thousands of kids in cages or dotus's treasonous behavior.

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Just saw that Cohen is releasing the tapes. The news moves too fast to keep up. JFC

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I have been away for the World Cup. Lanny Davis is Cohen's lawyer.

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To how many different audiences is this directed and for what intended results ?

28 minutes ago, triplehorn said:

To how many different audiences is this directed and for what intended results ?

For now, it's targeted at an audience of one.

And if that audience of one continues to badmouth and throw Cohen under the bus, then the audience becomes Macmillan, Harper-Collins, Penguin, Random House, Simon &  Schuster and a few others.

 

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Following sentencing for his role in a hush-money scandal, Michael Cohen was granted a prison work release for a new job with the Trump 2020 campaign, sources confirmed Wednesday. “We’re confident that engaging in honest work will help Mr. Cohen with his rehabilitation,” said warden Pete Clements, telling reporters that having an opportunity to give back to society by serving as an advisor for the 2020 Trump presidential campaign would help Cohen see the error of his past behaviors. “Once he arrives in March, Mr. Cohen will be bused from our penitentiary to Trump’s Manhattan campaign office for an eight-hour work day before returning to prison each night. Mr. Cohen will be under strict supervision during these furloughs, which will allow him to use his skills for the betterment of the community and give him a chance to reintegrate into society.” Clements added that Cohen’s request for a position as the RNC’s 2020 deputy finance chairman had been denied over concerns that the work environment would make it too easy to backslide into criminality. 

 

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This was someone Trump hired as his own personal lawyer, imagine what kind of chuckle fucks hes hired for to run the country

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