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I know there are other Corona threads, but thought we needed one specifically for how travel is expected to be impacted throughout the year.  We are already seeing the price of jet fuel coming down due to cancelled flights, but the airline industry as a whole is expected to lose 30 billion dollars in 2020, and that will likely go up.  What does this mean for ticket prices?  Is it best to buy well in advance (NOW), hoping that travel isn't banned by the time you intend to fly, or are most of you going to take a "wait and see" approach, at the risk that flights will cost both kidneys and a spleen?

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This hits close to home as my wife and I just paid for flights and a room for a week in Cancun in June, way back (2 weeks ago) when this thing was just affecting China. I’m ok with the decision to have gone ahead and bought those tickets. 

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cruise line tickets should be really cheap....

i would not book anything until we have a better grasp on exactly how dangerous this virus really is.

I have also been wondering about this as our spring break trip to California is in 2.5 weeks.

I've got one kid going to France and another to Germany the first few weeks of June.  I have some time, but I'm definitely waiting on buying tickets, because who knows what the travel situation will be like then, and who knows about what the airline situation will be (e.g., for Berlin flights, we've taken Norweigan -- they're good, but have tight margins.   They might not survive a major travel shutdown).

I (hopefully) leave for Japan in less than 3 weeks.  My biggest worry is we get there, they have a big outbreak and trains stop running or all the shrines are closed.  Positive is I'm not expecting large crowds in most places.

We have a trip to Italy booked for September and saw today that 6 people have died there.  All housing and several activities already booked and paid for.  Hoping we'll be done with it by then. 

im traveling to work tomorrow.  gonna hang out and gauge what the temperature is.  might call in sick, just to be safe.

Wife and I are going to Venice, Emiglia-Romagna, Florence and Rome in three weeks. Oh boy.

 

33 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

We have a trip to Italy booked for September and saw today that 6 people have died there.  All housing and several activities already booked and paid for.  Hoping we'll be done with it by then. 

Warm weather and humidity will have hopefully killed it off by then

I'm booked to fly my family to visit my in laws in Minneapolis in March and August. I mean, it would suck if a bunch of us die because of this virus, but if it gets bad enough I can justifiably cancel my in law visits. 

This will be in me Mexico around anyone that sneezes.  Bonus points if they are Asian.....

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1 hour ago, msbesq said:

Wife and I are going to Venice, Emiglia-Romagna, Florence and Rome in three weeks. Oh boy.

 

Heading to Reims, then Milan, Venice, Florence then Paris in mid April.  Hoping it will be ok by then.  Good luck to you guys

Going to Whistler next month and Disneyworld in May. No plans to change anything. 

We're going to Spain for a couple of weeks in May.  Everything is paid for.  We'll keep an eye on things there but right now the trip is still on.

Paris for spring break. Hope this all means fewer azns milling around the Louvre.

7 minutes ago, DaysOff said:

Paris for spring break. Hope this all means fewer azns milling around the Louvre.

  They are everywhere at the Louvre and elsewhere, and the French seem to despise them

The French despise everyone and everything that isn't French.

35 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

I went to a sichuan restaurant in brooklyn last night. T&P requested. 

Salt and pepper like for fried squid and shrimp is abbreviated as S&P Not T&P

1 hour ago, hornbri said:

Going to Whistler next month and Disneyworld in May. No plans to change anything. 

I’d get injected with coronavirus before going to disneyworld.  in my physical condition the odds are pretty good I’d survive. 

I'm currently in Lubbock for the first time in 40 years..   No sign of virus but jesus.  how long ago was this place nuked?  Looks like they are just rebuilding here. 

I actually just booked a trip to Asia for Oct.  Was kind of hopping Id get in on a corona virus discount but so far no luck.

I'm scheduled for a business conference in Paris the 2nd weekend of March... There is supposed to be about 3000 techies from all over Europe, but people are already starting to pull out. I really _want_ to go, but I'm not sure it's worth the risk.... I'll probably bail this week.  I'm curious if the whole conference gets canned.  A number of higher profile conference in Europe already have...but most of those were ones where there was a significant presence from China... My conference is just EMEA.

 

 

 

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The herp won’t kill you.

Does travel insurance language include force de majeure exceptions language for pandemics?

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Booked a Portugal trip for May before Wuhan bomb dropped. Trying to drop hints to the wife this whole pandemic thing is real and trip might get cancelled. She is not having it. 

32 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

Does travel insurance language include force de majeure exceptions language for pandemics?

My travel insurance allows for cancellation for any reason up to 72 hours before the trip. 

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I’m avoiding travel to Sugar Land like the plague.

That’s just good old common sense 

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

Booked a Portugal trip for May before Wuhan bomb dropped. Trying to drop hints to the wife this whole pandemic thing is real and trip might get cancelled. She is not having it. 

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Already booked Paris & Milan/Como in May.  Not concerned about getting to Paris but the Northern Italy cases have me concerned that France may ban travel to/from Milan if it gets worse. 

we're flying to o'hare then Orlando in mid April. Corona virus should be the least of our worries right?

I'm in Amarillo this week for work.  There's as good a chance of dying from boredom as anything. 

Headed to italy in may. Umbria is home base. Should be interesting

Heading to Italy for the last week of May (Rome + “Tuscany TBD”). Looks like there will be a lot of us there for live reporting of Gucci zombie outbreak and the band of shagsters that turn the Colosseum in to the Alamo.  

Going to San Miguel next week.  My only concern is since I'm of Chinese descent that I'm going to get profiled.  Hearing a lot of stories on that.  And then when I fly back with a hangover they are going to think the worst

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Is the expectation that the cost of plane tickets will go up or down as this thing progresses?  Will the airlines have to cut prices to lure passengers who are afraid to travel, or will they have to raise them in order to eek out as much revenue as they can?  I can't find my crystal ball. 

I’d think the bigger worry is that you fly out and then your trip gets cut short or you have to scramble to fly back before flights are cut off, no? 

I have to head downtown for work this morning. I’m going to stay home until I get a better idea for how Austin is handling this.

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8 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I have to head downtown for work this morning. I’m going to stay home until I get a better idea for how Austin is handling this.

Yer fucked.

I travel across NA pretty much weekly. Headed to Vancouver next week (in Philly) this one. Normally I don’t get too nervous but given what a hub for Asia travel Vancouver is this one’s got me a little leery. 

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16 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I have to head downtown for work this morning. I’m going to stay home until I get a better idea for how Austin is handling this.

No one gives a shit about that.  How is your mom handling this?  That's what we want to know. 

17 minutes ago, idigTexas said:

No one gives a shit about that.  How is your mom handling this?  That's what we want to know. 

I’m guessing a number of Surly posters are going to start feeling symptoms.

I wouldnt fly anywhere between april and july if i were yall. Unless you dont mind losing deposits/money or getting stuck places

8 minutes ago, Telegraph_it said:

Should I be worried if I fly private? /surly 1%
 

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Only let American strippers on the plane.  No Asians.  #nowacist

19 hours ago, 52-80 said:

im traveling to work tomorrow.  gonna hang out and gauge what the temperature is.  might call in sick, just to be safe.

update:  i went to work today.  still alive.

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