June 5, 20187 yr Maybe he signs for 3.5 million in exchange for playing one season of football, and then the a’s have money to go overslot later. Possibly. The A's are always looking for a deal. They could also buy an insurance policy for the remainder of the balance.
June 5, 20187 yr He's playing this fall...... Last go around. Good for the kid, I guess.... gets his huge cake and gets to eat it too..... Good, let's break him in the Cotton Bowl this October.
June 5, 20187 yr Don't know about Sooner QB position. Is there a chance he plays football but don't make starter?
June 5, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, Thetexashammer said: We're gonna break him in half. Might ought've put that somewhere else, given the abysmal prediction hit-rate on this thread.
June 5, 20187 yr 59 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said: He's playing this fall...... Last go around. Good for the kid, I guess.... gets his huge cock and gets to eat it too..... Good, let's break him in the Cotton Bowl this October. Fify Edited June 5, 20187 yr by HOOK'EMHOOAH
June 5, 20187 yr I was in the camp of "no way MLB lets him do that" but I guess I was dead wrong. Hate to see the kid die but it has to be done.
June 5, 20187 yr There's really no doubt in my mind that he gets dinged up in the season opener and peaces the fuck out of QB1. Amazing that this kid is still trying to fuck everything up for himself.
June 5, 20187 yr 27 minutes ago, Chips O'Toole said: There's really no doubt in my mind that he gets dinged up in the season opener and peaces the fuck out of QB1. Amazing that this kid is still trying to fuck everything up for himself. does this face strike you as someone with a fully developed set of chromosomes?
June 5, 20187 yr If I were his father I would advise against this. His LT future is in baseball, not football.
June 5, 20187 yr The A’s should be commended for giving another vertically challenged kid an opportunity to hang around a big league clubhouse. Please Kyler - don’t hurt ‘em.
June 5, 20187 yr 8 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said: He's playing this fall...... Last go around. Good for the kid, I guess.... gets his huge cake and gets to eat it too..... Good, let's break him in the Cotton Bowl this October. Their second pick is apparently a guy they'll have to overslot. Sounds like Kyler will be underslotted but play this fall
June 5, 20187 yr 10 hours ago, shnsajax said: I’m forgetting now, but if the A’s don’t sign him do they still get a 9th overall pick next year as compensation? It was for the first three rounds, just can’t remember if they changed that rule. You get the pick +1, so it would be 10th
June 5, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, gecko said: If I were his father I would advise against this. His LT future is in baseball, not football. Exactly my thought. If he gets hurt this fall, what a squandered future. If he were my kid, football would be done yesterday. That said, I'm glad he's playing football. Let's get it on.
June 5, 20187 yr An early season injury to Murray would be devastating Maybe Hager breaks his entire arm off after tasting blood in West Virginia last year.
June 5, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, gecko said: If I were his father I would advise against this. His LT future is in baseball, not football. It's not even really his future anymore - it is now. He can take millions now and begin an earnest pursuit to make many more millions by diving into baseball now. He's nuts if he ever puts on pads again. Maybe the A's can pay him less (under slot) if they agree to let him play football...might be worth the gamble on their part. It's not like I'm a Murray fan, but I'm not rooting for the kid to fail either. Just seems really dumb to continue playing football - a sport he has no hopes of playing professionally, one that poses a risk to his health and ability to play baseball professionally. We're not even sure if he's any good at football yet. Sign a deal, take the millions, start playing rookie ball this summer and focus on getting to Oakland. You could have done this 3 years ago and who knows how close you'd be now. You get a second chance. How is this even up for debate?
June 5, 20187 yr Popular Post Just now, Hank Chinaski said: Just seems really dumb to continue playing football - a sport he has no hopes of playing professionally, one that poses a risk to his health and ability to play baseball professionally. We're not even sure if he's any good at football yet. He's chosen to attend both A&M and OU. His intelligence level has been previously measured and weighed. And found wanting.
June 5, 20187 yr How much insurance is OU buying for him? Or do they A's foot that bill? Do they also take insurance out for their own sake? I mean, if he gets hurt, they are out X amount?
June 5, 20187 yr Per Oakland's director of scouting: "The risk of football was outweighed by the upside on the baseball field. ... We were totally on board with his desire to play quarterback at Oklahoma. Frankly, we're kind of excited to be Oklahoma fans." https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2779542-eric-kubota-as-totally-on-board-with-kyler-murrays-desire-to-play-qb-at-ou
June 5, 20187 yr 4 minutes ago, Neonmoon said: How much insurance is OU buying for him? Or do they A's foot that bill? Do they also take insurance out for their own sake? I mean, if he gets hurt, they are out X amount? If the A's are getting him underslot enough to land a couple other hard-to-sign high schoolers who might be future first rounders otherwise, then him playing football so they can get him cheap actually might make sense. Obviously, there's a ton of risk in him playing football on their side, but how well this draft turns out for them depends just as much on if they're able to land other quality overslotted types. On his side, I don't think he loses his signing bonus even if he gets hurt, so the risk is more about delaying him playing baseball full time when he's already, or him getting seriously hurt playing football. He should probably not play football, get a bigger signing bonus, and start playing baseball full time earlier, but if he truly wants to play football this year like an idiot, what can you do?
June 5, 20187 yr 49 minutes ago, Scholz said: He's chosen to attend both A&M and OU. His intelligence level has been previously measured and weighed. And found wanting. 23 minutes ago, Machinator said: Per Oakland's director of scouting: "The risk of football was outweighed by the upside on the baseball field. ... We were totally on board with his desire to play quarterback at Oklahoma. Frankly, we're kind of excited to be Oklahoma fans." https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2779542-eric-kubota-as-totally-on-board-with-kyler-murrays-desire-to-play-qb-at-ou sounds like they have had a meeting of simpleton minds. Deion Sanders was on The Ticket this morning and when asked his thoughts on this topic given his experience playing both he said that Kyler should go directly to the OU football facility this morning and burn all of his football gear. ha ha Edited June 5, 20187 yr by orange dream
June 5, 20187 yr Maybe him playing will work to our benefit. I would expect him to play timid and carefully, which would hopefully make him far less effective given that he is a mobile QB.
June 5, 20187 yr 12 hours ago, Assman said: Hearing rumors Kyler will forgo football and baseball next year to play Tommy DeVito in the OU Drama Club's rendition of Jersey Boys. I heard he was slated to play Bushwick Bill in the Geto Boys biopic.
June 5, 20187 yr fuck this midget. fuck ou. don't give a shit who they throw out there. we'er gonna beat their ass.
June 5, 20187 yr Dorf on football is going to have a multi-million dollar target on his back this season. Go get him Hager.
June 5, 20187 yr 5 hours ago, 52-80 said: does this face strike you as someone with a fully developed set of chromosomes? No, but I do believe he's the manifestation of a George Lucas fever dream. + = =
June 5, 20187 yr 2 hours ago, orange dream said: sounds like they have had a meeting of simpleton minds. Deion Sanders was on The Ticket this morning and when asked his thoughts on this topic given his experience playing both he said that Kyler should go directly to the OU football facility this morning and burn all of his football gear. ha ha Given equal ability in each sport, anyone who has just a good a chance to make the majors and the NFL and chooses the NFL is really dumb. Anyone who has a very good chance to make the majors (like being a top 10 pick) and chooses instead to play college football is a certifiable lunatic. Kyler will never even play in the NFL. He should just GTFO of Norman ASAP.
June 5, 20187 yr On one hand, if this isn't a negotiating ploy, you have to the commend the kid for wanting to play football. In this day and age when kids sit out meaningless bowl games (which I don't begrudge, btw) to protect their mid-round draft status, I think it's a little refreshing that he's following his heart and doing what he loves. How could you put a price on the feeling of coming out of the tunnel in Dallas and playing QB in the Red River Rivalry? On the other hand, the adults in this situation including Lincoln Riley are likely doing this kid a disservice if they trot him out on the football field. I guess if it doesn't impact his contract, then it probably ultimately doesn't matter.
June 5, 20187 yr His Dad had a severe ankle injury at aggy and wound up having difficulty getting cleared for the NFL Draft. He was finally cleared, but went undrafted and landed with the Calgary Stampeders in the CFL. He washed out there due to his chronic ankle problems. His Dad must be one stupid mofo to put the kid at risk for a similar fate.
June 5, 20187 yr I haven't been following this all that closely, but is the idea that his draft slot would be roughly $4.8 million but he's saying he's willing to sign for about a million less with the understanding he's allowed to play football this year and the A's like this because they can apply that $1 million in savings to their second round pick to make it more like another first round pick? Also, in this scenario, is Kyler signing his contract with the A's now, so he gets the guaranteed money and signing bonus ASAP while still playing football this year? I guess the real question on this is if any of his money becomes guaranteed immediately or if it's all contingent on him being healthy and able to report for next season. I'm not real clear on how baseball draft contracts work in a situation like this.
June 5, 20187 yr 3 minutes ago, UT Lawnghorn said: I haven't been following this all that closely, but is the idea that his draft slot would be roughly $4.8 million but he's saying he's willing to sign for about a million less with the understanding he's allowed to play football this year and the A's like this because they can apply that $1 million in savings to their second round pick to make it more like another first round pick? Also, in this scenario, is Kyler signing his contract with the A's now, so he gets the guaranteed money and signing bonus ASAP while still playing football this year? I guess the real question on this is if any of his money becomes guaranteed immediately or if it's all contingent on him being healthy and able to report for next season. I'm not real clear on how baseball draft contracts work in a situation like this. You have the concept correct but the specific dollar amount is probably wrong. Doubtful he's going to give up a million but maybe a couple of hundred thousand..... And yes, he gets the bonus and most of the time they are guaranteed so the A's are taking the risk, but only the club and Murray's team know what was probably already been decided.
June 5, 20187 yr 22 minutes ago, lemonandaturd said: His Dad had a severe ankle injury at aggy and wound up having difficulty getting cleared for the NFL Draft. He was finally cleared, but went undrafted and landed with the Calgary Stampeders in the CFL. He washed out there due to his chronic ankle problems. His Dad must be one stupid mofo to put the kid at risk for a similar fate. Well, to be fair, they both went to a&m.
June 5, 20187 yr So he gets the money immediately? Doesn't that effect his amateur status for playing collegiate sports?
June 5, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, Mitch Cumsteen said: On one hand, if this isn't a negotiating ploy, you have to the commend the kid for wanting to play football. In this day and age when kids sit out meaningless bowl games (which I don't begrudge, btw) to protect their mid-round draft status, I think it's a little refreshing that he's following his heart and doing what he loves. How could you put a price on the feeling of coming out of the tunnel in Dallas and playing QB in the Red River Rivalry? On the other hand, the adults in this situation including Lincoln Riley are likely doing this kid a disservice if they trot him out on the football field. I guess if it doesn't impact his contract, then it probably ultimately doesn't matter. You couldn't pay me enough to come out of the tunnel playing for those fuckheads.
June 5, 20187 yr 11 minutes ago, mulletpelini said: So he gets the money immediately? Doesn't that affect his amateur status for playing collegiate sports? fify And, no. Different sport. Ricky was under contract with the Phillies organization while he was at Texas.
June 5, 20187 yr 12 minutes ago, mulletpelini said: So he gets the money immediately? Doesn't that effect his amateur status for playing collegiate sports? No. There's a rule that you can be compensated in one sport and still be an amateur in another. And yes, i know, it makes no sense, but NCAA gonna NCAA.
June 5, 20187 yr Not that it needs to change, but it's suprising in their retarded ineptitude of being the governing body of college athletics the NCAA allows it.
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