January 20, 20223 yr FedEx just dropped this off today. Glad I was at home before a porch pirate got to it...
January 20, 20223 yr For anyone that reloads, assuming you can find the materials (big assumption), what price can you get to on that round? 9mm 124g Pre pandemic pricing when supplies were goodBrass - free range scrounge Berry’s Plated 124gr RN -.09Powder - .035Primer - .03Probably more like this nowBullet - .012Powder - .04Primer - .08
January 20, 20223 yr So if I’m reading that right (think you have an extra 0 on pandemic bullets) it was 16c/per before, 24c/per now, and if I find a deal I can buy them for 36-38c/per. Im not that big into pistols but wanting to get either a 9 or 40 carbine at some point. Hoping ammo takes a dip someday but who knows. Might be like everything else, meet the new normal.
January 20, 20223 yr Yeah. There’s an extra zero in there. Pre pandemic might even be 2-3 cents lower.For factory round I used to buy a ton of Winchester white box 100 packs at $26 for 9mm and $32-34 for 40. That was my go by for reloading or not but for a while ai was shooting 500-750 rnds/ month and I could spend a few nights on the press and punch out a bunch of rounds.
January 20, 20223 yr Author So if I’m reading that right (think you have an extra 0 on pandemic bullets) it was 16c/per before, 24c/per now, and if I find a deal I can buy them for 36-38c/per. Im not that big into pistols but wanting to get either a 9 or 40 carbine at some point. Hoping ammo takes a dip someday but who knows. Might be like everything else, meet the new normal. Academy raised a bunch of prices on ammo in the past few weeks. I see an ammo shortage in the near future - so buy now.
January 20, 20223 yr Not at all trying to make this political, but I do think it is an accurate observation to say that there are some parties in power in the federal government right now who think it is a good thing that ammo is harder to find and acquire and who are actively working to make it even harder. Or, to be generous, they are at the very least not worried about making it easier. Bottom line is, yes, I agree, more shortages are coming, at least as long as the executive branch is controlled by those who are hostile to private firearm ownership, maybe even longer if you consider the permanent bureaucracy.
January 20, 20223 yr The general consensus I see on the gun boards about the causes of the ammo shortage center around two things... 1) Panic-buying hoarders, plus millions of first time gun buyers (prompted by civil unrest & increased violent crime) grabbing everything in sight. 2) Basically, US ammo manufacturing is controlled by only two consortiums that have conspired to limit distribution to artificially create bare shelves, then raise prices while letting stocks trickle back to the retailers.
January 20, 20223 yr 39 minutes ago, Armybrat said: The general consensus I see on the gun boards about the causes of the ammo shortage center around two things... 1) Panic-buying hoarders, plus millions of first time gun buyers (prompted by civil unrest & increased violent crime) grabbing everything in sight. 2) Basically, US ammo manufacturing is controlled by only two consortiums that have conspired to limit distribution to artificially create bare shelves, then raise prices while letting stocks trickle back to the retailers. 1)Yes 2) No I believe the ammo manufacturers are blowing and going as strong as they can with whatever components/raw materials they are able to get. The market is wide open right now for what ever the mfr's can make. Doesn't matter, steel shotgun shells, 22lr, 30-06, 6.5 manbun. Whatever it is, it gets sold immediately. Except for 350 Legend. WhoTF has a gun in that caliber?
January 20, 20223 yr Agreed about #2.....I only said that was the opinions stated on the gun boards. It wasn’t my own thought.
January 21, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, davidg said: 1)Yes 2) No I believe the ammo manufacturers are blowing and going as strong as they can with whatever components/raw materials they are able to get. The market is wide open right now for what ever the mfr's can make. Doesn't matter, steel shotgun shells, 22lr, 30-06, 6.5 manbun. Whatever it is, it gets sold immediately. Except for 350 Legend. WhoTF has a gun in that caliber? Agree completely. Also lol at manbun. Lol x2 at 350 legend. Been completely stocked on the shelves around here since day 1.
January 22, 20223 yr Iirc you are in SC? So this wouldn’t help but for anyone else Carter’s in Houston had a bunch of large rifle primers recently. I am in south central ks. But if someone does have a solid lead on large rifle magnum primers next weekend I’ll drive to TX
January 22, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Rumblefishstix said: I am in south central ks. But if someone does have a solid lead on large rifle magnum primers next weekend I’ll drive to TX Give a call to Carter’s Country in Houston and see if they still have them. Should be 2 locations.
January 22, 20223 yr Not at all trying to make this political, but I do think it is an accurate observation to say that there are some parties in power in the federal government right now who think it is a good thing that ammo is harder to find and acquire and who are actively working to make it even harder.Hunter Biden stole mah bullets!!
January 22, 20223 yr Found some Speer Gold Dot 124 gr jhp 9mm for about 65 cents per. Delivered yesterday from Target Sports. Sucks, but better than nothing.
January 28, 20223 yr Midway just sent me a flyer for factory second bullets. Just look at wad cutting 9/40 looks like you could really save some $$$ there. Lots of rifle stuff available in packages of 1000, pistol stuff in packages of 100. What I assume is good pricing for range ammo for you reloaders.
January 29, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, Armybrat said: Factory seconds? What are they, square? Apparently, discoloration.
January 30, 20223 yr I need to buy some 5.57 and 9mm sometime, not in a rush though. Have prices got any better? What's the best way to acquire some for storage and going to the range occasionally?
January 30, 20223 yr Academy in Amarillo had 9mm as well, they do have a 4 box limit. They had a bunch of 28G shotgun shells, $13/box.
January 30, 20223 yr Academy on Kirby/59 has loads of 556/9mm. So much so that they have surplus on a different shelf. 6.5CM and 300 BO though is a desert
January 30, 20223 yr Academy in Amarillo had 9mm as well, they do have a 4 box limit. They had a bunch of 28G shotgun shells, $13/box.Man we’re $14 on 28’s here. They did have a pretty robust selection in rifle ammo today. Picked up some 150g .308 core lokts for first time in well over a 18 months. Also, 4-5 selections for 300BO, 22-250, and even some 25-06. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
January 30, 20223 yr How much for the 30-30’s? I didn’t even look for those. I have to many rifles, if that’s even possible. My two favorite everyday calibers would be the 22-250 and the 30-30, kill everything that needs killin.
January 30, 20223 yr Man we’re $14 on 28’s here. They did have a pretty robust selection in rifle ammo today. Picked up some 150g .308 core lokts for first time in well over a 18 months. Also, 4-5 selections for 300BO, 22-250, and even some 25-06. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkPretty much what the Academy at 290/99 looked like yesterday.And of course they have a shit ton of 350 Legend.
January 30, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, davidg said: And of course they have a shit ton of 350 Legend. 350 Legend, 450BM, and 224VK shooters don’t even know there is a shortage. Good to know about the 290/99 store, I stop by once every 2 weeks or so when I go into the office and they never have anything. At all. Y’all have some shooters that live up that way. Edited January 30, 20223 yr by fattyflattie
January 30, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, RMac5 said: How much for the 30-30’s? I didn’t even look for those. I have to many rifles, if that’s even possible. My two favorite everyday calibers would be the 22-250 and the 30-30, kill everything that needs killin. ~24.99 iirc for the Winchester’s. I bought a few boxes on monarch to try out a month or so ago for $21. There was only 2 boxes of 22-250, I grabbed one. I forgot to mention about but they did have 2 types of 6.5, which I haven’t seen in a good while. I should have been stacking 300BO this whole time knowing one day I’d end up with one for the kid. I grab a box whenever I go in now that I’ve got one in the mail. In fact other than the core lokts at $27, the rest of those are all 24-25/box.
January 31, 20223 yr Author Midway just sent me a flyer for factory second bullets. Just look at wad cutting 9/40 looks like you could really save some $$$ there. Lots of rifle stuff available in packages of 1000, pistol stuff in packages of 100. What I assume is good pricing for range ammo for you reloaders.Norma shooting.com for 9mm.
January 31, 20223 yr Author I need to buy some 5.57 and 9mm sometime, not in a rush though. Have prices got any better? What's the best way to acquire some for storage and going to the range occasionally?Normashooting.com for 9mm.
January 31, 20223 yr I think the 350 Legend is intended for states that have to use straight walled cartridges for deer. I assume they are harder to come by there. Not sure why they keep sending them here, or maybe it's just the same boxes on the shelves that have been there for months.
January 31, 20223 yr 11 hours ago, Handcruser said: Norma shooting.com for 9mm. Post #553 - that’s where I bought the 10 boxes... $16.84/50. - free shipping.
February 3, 20223 yr Academy in gtown had quite a bit of ammo yesterday. 270, 300 bo, 30/30, 380, 9mm, 40, 45, 357 mag, 22-250, 30-06.. bunch of stuff.
February 4, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, Armybrat said: Good to hear. I’d like to pick up some more .30-30, .38 Special, .357, and .380 Why is .38 so expensive? Just not popular enough?
February 5, 20223 yr So I think I'll put this here. I got a Guns & Ammo issue with a 28ga auto shotgun on the cover. Is it possible that the gun industry is totally tone deaf to its customer base? I haven't seen a box of 28ga shells on a shelf more than once in the past two years. Gun owners simply cannot go out and shoot like they did before the shortage. Regardless; the industry continues to promote new, even more rare or hard-to-get products. Seems like there's a major gulf between marketing goals and customer base reality.
February 5, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, bigshark88 said: So I think I'll put this here. I got a Guns & Ammo issue with a 28ga auto shotgun on the cover. Is it possible that the gun industry is totally tone deaf to its customer base? I haven't seen a box of 28ga shells on a shelf more than once in the past two years. Gun owners simply cannot go out and shoot like they did before the shortage. Regardless; the industry continues to promote new, even more rare or hard-to-get products. Seems like there's a major gulf between marketing goals and customer base reality. There’s quite a bit of it on the shelves in Texas, and a bunch of posts on the gun owners thread talking about adding them to the collection. Im thinking of buying one (two actually, sxs and sa) because 410 is so damn hard to get now and expensive. I’ve been doing all this years quail hunting with 410 but when I’m out, I’m out, and it’s 35-50$/box on gun broker. 28g is 13-14$/box here and plentiful.
February 5, 20223 yr 28ga #9 is probably the only shotgun ammo that I never noticed as missing over the past two years. It has continued to be everywhere. And realize that this is the ammo thread but a 28ga semiauto is the perfect gun for teaching younger kids for whom 20 and 12 are still too big and heavy
February 5, 20223 yr Bought it a few years back for the old Winchester Model 42 pump Grandpa gave me in 1956. (2nd from top)
February 5, 20223 yr Is that a 9422? I have one from the late 70’s, got it from my parents as a b-day gift or maybe it was Christmas.
February 5, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, RMac5 said: Is that a 9422? I have one from the late 70’s, got it from my parents as a b-day gift or maybe it was Christmas. Yes it is a 9422 XTR - Inherited it from my dad. Very smooth action.
February 5, 20223 yr Out of all of my guns, if I could only keep one of them it would be that .22. It’s such a quality rifle and the sentimental piece coming from my parents. Need to look up my SN and see when it was manufactured. Looks like Winchester built the 9422 staring in 1972 an stopped in 2005. Mine is an XTR as well, those were only produced for about 11 years, 1978-1989. I’m sure you @Armybrat already know all of this.
February 7, 20223 yr Academy at Voss/Westheimer was flush yesterday. Tons of 556/9mm/45. About 8 boxes of Hornady 6.5CM and shitload of 300 BO but only 6 boxes of SubX subsonic. I nabbed 4 of them. Too lazy to go back in and grab the other 2
February 7, 20223 yr Starting to look for shotgun shells. 20 gauge very hard to come by except in slugs. The academy above had boxes of Monarch but I generally consider them a trash brand only good enough to run through my AK. Their shotgun shells any good or nah?
February 7, 20223 yr 30 minutes ago, Fat Bastard said: Starting to look for shotgun shells. 20 gauge very hard to come by except in slugs. The academy above had boxes of Monarch but I generally consider them a trash brand only good enough to run through my AK. Their shotgun shells any good or nah? What are you trying to do with them? They'll probably go boom, but might be a bit dirty like the cheap Rios. Need 410 to start trickling back out in a bad way.
February 7, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, fattyflattie said: What are you trying to do with them? They'll probably go boom, but might be a bit dirty like the cheap Rios. Need 410 to start trickling back out in a bad way. Skeet, primarily
February 7, 20223 yr Author Skeet, primarily They’re fine for that. All the monarch stuff (brass in pistol/rifle) and shells are reliable.
February 7, 20223 yr 12 hours ago, Fat Bastard said: Starting to look for shotgun shells. 20 gauge very hard to come by except in slugs. The academy above had boxes of Monarch but I generally consider them a trash brand only good enough to run through my AK. Their shotgun shells any good or nah? Monarchs are dirty, but they'll work. You can find plenty of other brands online for mail order (ie Ammoseek) but it will be more expensive, even if you can find free shipping. This isn't a terrible deal for the past 24 months for a decent shell for skeet, but with shipping it would still be about $3 more per box than the Monarch.
February 7, 20223 yr Here is the Ammoseek link: https://ammoseek.com/ammo/20-gauge One thing to keep in mind is that Bass Pro / Cabelas very rarely updates their store inventory online anymore, and they don't sell stuff mail order anymore either, but I've heard that they are getting in-store inventory now for decent prices. Same as Walmart. You just have to take the time to go and look for it in person.
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