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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]

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55 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

I like the NYTimes for county by county results online.  Two places I’m going to be watching: Lake, Summer, and Marion in Florida,   And Mecklenberg and Gaston in North Carolina.  
 

the first three are the Villages.  If Biden can lose competitively there, then Florida is a real dem possibility. The second are the Charlotte suburbs.  If Biden can win Gaston, and fight to a draw in Mecklenberg, then RDU should be able to carry the state for him. Also: the discrepancy between Cooper and Biden should give us a general idea of what ticket splitting may look like.

Some other places to keep an eye on if you think of it are the locations in Blue cities that Barr sent his 'people,' as reported late last week. Milwaukee was one of them and a bunch were in swing states or other places where Biden is favored: Maricopa County in Arizona was another one. It was a good sized list and there were a couple in Texas.

15 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

"Loyal" and "phone calls":  that could get troublesome.

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3 minutes ago, Texaspython said:

 

I hope people don’t spend all trying to find rumors about turnout splits.

unless the person has access to real exit polls, they don’t know anything. Today will constantly be “they’re saying this” without defining they.

2 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

 

"Loyal" and "phone calls":  that could get troublesome.

He's just sending out a few feelers to Russia and North Korea for a place to live come January.

7 hours ago, yoladu said:

i dont know if it is over, but it was effective. Harris County just shut down 9 of the 10 drive in voting centers for tomorrow for fear of further litigation.

Election day voting is supposed to bigly favor the terrorists errr Republicans.  What a shame if the fats that were counting on rolling up in their sleds can't manage to vote.

You know a caravan of trucks with trump flags was planning on drive through voting. Now they can't get their meme video

1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I hope people don’t spend all trying to find rumors about turnout splits.

unless the person has access to real exit polls, they don’t know anything. Today will constantly be “they’re saying this” without defining they.

Yeah, it’s just a little bit of info we have so far today.

18 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

By all logic, this is the most clear cut race since Clinton beat Dole, if not Reagan over Mondale. But damn if Trump finds that one small path to victory because his lies flipped just enough Midwest votes.

I know that many are worried about the potential of Biden hurting them personally with higher taxes or what-not, but in their heart they must know that Trump is bad for America. Do we want leaders that are liars? And I don’t mean that politicians always tell us what we want to hear but someone that lies about everything.

Vote for someone that you are proud to see in the White House.

If my taxes have to go up in order to get rid of the current Asshole in Chief, then I say it's worth every fucking penny.  It beats the alternative where my taxes went up AND I still got stuck with dotard in the White House.

Just now, Fudge Nuggets said:

Election day voting is supposed to bigly favor the terrorists errr Republicans.  What a shame if the fats that were counting on rolling up in their sleds slabs can't manage to vote.

Fify Houston.

55 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

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this is great.

As an aside, son at Ft Leonard Wood in Missouri to get to the polls at 5:30am were over an hour long, with waiting for parking.   He said it felt like gameday around a major stadium... Only everyone had to be quiet about their team.  LOL.

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FWIW---Libertarian Party quietly discloses they are projecting 2.5mm votes for Jorgensen.  Which, given my experience with the party, means she'll get about half that.  All third party candidates and write-ins will account for less than 2.5% in aggregate in 2020.  It was about 5% in 2016.  

3 minutes ago, Lobo said:

FWIW---Libertarian Party quietly discloses they are projecting 2.5mm votes for Jorgensen.  Which, given my experience with the party, means she'll get about half that.  All third party candidates and write-ins will account for less than 2.5% in aggregate in 2020.  It was about 5% in 2016.  

Let’s hope. Maybe we can reverse the Gary Johnson voter story.

26 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

By all logic, this is the most clear cut race since Clinton beat Dole, if not Reagan over Mondale. But damn if Trump finds that one small path to victory because his lies flipped just enough Midwest votes.

I know that many are worried about the potential of Biden hurting them personally with higher taxes or what-not, but in their heart they must know that Trump is bad for America. Do we want leaders that are liars? And I don’t mean that politicians always tell us what we want to hear but someone that lies about everything.

Vote for someone that you are proud to see in the White House.

It's pretty much impossible for Biden to hurt me worse with taxes than Donald. I took an unbelievably severe rogering from the irs during Donald's years. 

9 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Fify Houston.

I was originally going to go with 'slabs' but thought 'sleds' was a little better fit for the demographic in question.  Not that either is a really good fit.

Again, FWIW...anecdotal and all that.  Of the 50 or so LP members I keep up with in Texas and a couple hundred nationwide...other than those in state leadership with the party...all are voting for Biden.  Or...so we privately disclosed to one another.  I'll take that as an indicator that probably 2mm+ of Johnson's 2016 voters are breaking for Biden or not voting at all.  The party loyalty is just not there this time around for myriad reasons.  The LP will not be the factor it was in MI or WI last time around.  

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Not worried about the early Republican showing. Everyone knows lazy entitled millennials won't get out to vote until they've woken up and had their 2pm avocado toast breakfast.

Still working on voters this morning. Love the teamwork from Dems this election.

 

1 hour ago, Homercles said:

What’s the consensus best place to watch results roll in?  CSPAN?  Not interested in breathless hosts wildly gesturing at flashy graphics and amped up, sometimes incorrect commentary...I’ll get that from Hugo here.  

If I was sure of Biden's win, I'd watch Faux News just for the lols of aggy tears.

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I just took this picture off the deck of my house here in Colorado. Spectacular, but I am not sure if this is the dawn of a bright, new future or the Eye of Sauron.spacer.png

I like CSpan for a lot of things, myself. But we are going to channel surf most likely tonight just to see who is going to lose it on air.

 

The hell is slightly overwhelmed?
6 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

Not worried about the early Republican showing. Everyone knows lazy entitled millennials won't get out to vote until they've woken up and had their 2pm avocado toast breakfast.

Not true. I only have avocado toast on Wednesdays

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3 minutes ago, Goredho said:

I just took this picture off the deck of my house here in Colorado. Spectacular, but I am not sure if this is the dawn of a bright, new future or the Eye of Sauron.

Go hug one of those trees and get the Ents on your team.

2 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I like CSpan for a lot of things, myself. But we are going to channel surf most likely tonight just to see who is going to lose it on air.

I made the awful mistake of flipping on to NewsMax TV and hearing Chris Salcedo.    I think my ears are bleeding now.  

Random question. Does anyone live in a neighborhood that has its own polling station? My new hood does which blows mind. I grew up in Shady Hollow which is probably 5x the size of where I'm at now and have never heard of a neighborhood having their own. I'm sure it's because my neighborhood is semi-rural and based on geography not size, bit still strange.

Speaking of. Just pulled in on the way back from day care to peek the line. About 30 deep, people in chairs. Must be taking awhile. Lots of Biden signs at the clubhouse which is surprising given Comal County.

9 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Again, FWIW...anecdotal and all that.  Of the 50 or so LP members I keep up with in Texas and a couple hundred nationwide...other than those in state leadership with the party...all are voting for Biden.  Or...so we privately disclosed to one another.  I'll take that as an indicator that probably 2mm+ of Johnson's 2016 voters are breaking for Biden or not voting at all.  The party loyalty is just not there this time around for myriad reasons.  The LP will not be the factor it was in MI or WI last time around.  

I'm a 2016 Johnson voter going Biden and mostly (D) 

3 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I like CSpan for a lot of things, myself. But we are going to channel surf most likely tonight just to see who is going to lose it on air.

Gotta watch John King and the magic wall

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The shy Trump thing is complete BS.

The RCP average on 2016 election day had Clinton +3.2. She ended up +2.1. Right within the margin of error.

Right-wingers telling you about "shy Trump" are just projecting their usual sense of victimhood, as if this country is just so hostile and mean to white people that they have to hide. Reporters and pundits who talk about it are just stupid.

1 minute ago, Captainant said:

I'm a 2016 Johnson voter going Biden and mostly (D) 

Same, except I went straight D ticket.  Even when I was a "card-carrying" Rep, I never voted straight ticket.  I don't think I'm the only one Trump and his ilk have driven to that point. 

Random question. Does anyone live in a neighborhood that has its own polling station? My new hood does which blows mind. I grew up in Shady Hollow which is probably 5x the size of where I'm at now and have never heard of a neighborhood having their own. I'm sure it's because my neighborhood is semi-rural and based on geography not size, bit still strange.

Speaking of. Just pulled in on the way back from day care to peek the line. About 30 deep, people in chairs. Must be taking awhile. Lots of Biden signs at the clubhouse which is surprising given Comal County.


I’m in a neighborhood with about 2000 houses. Been here 6 years and we have polling location at the welcome center. We are in a formally rural area quickly becoming suburbs.
I like the NYTimes for county by county results online.  Two places I’m going to be watching: Lake, Summer, and Marion in Florida,   And Mecklenberg and Gaston in North Carolina.  
 
the first three are the Villages.  If Biden can lose competitively there, then Florida is a real dem possibility. The second are the Charlotte suburbs.  If Biden can win Gaston, and fight to a draw in Mecklenberg, then RDU should be able to carry the state for him. Also: the discrepancy between Cooper and Biden should give us a general idea of what ticket splitting may look like.

NY times was nails with their up to the second probabilities web site.



John king is the wizard of the TV. Plus cnns projection music is bad ass

Yeah, what BT said. Unlike Dad dicks which is a real thing. According to Workaholics dad dicks from the 80's early 90's were way bigger and Joe's dad dick is from the 70's sooo....monster! 

 

Have a feeling polls in Georgia are going to be open late tonight as voters deal with this type of bullshit.

 

1 minute ago, burntorangebongos said:

Yeah, what BT said. Unlike Dad dicks which is a real thing. According to Workaholics dad dicks from the 80's early 90's were way bigger and Joe's dad dick is from the 70's sooo....monster! 

 

You know you're on the Surl, right? We all have much bigger dicks than Hunter or Joe....combined.

3 minutes ago, burntorangebongos said:

Yeah, what BT said. Unlike Dad dicks which is a real thing. According to Workaholics dad dicks from the 80's early 90's were way bigger and Joe's dad dick is from the 70's sooo....monster! 

 

I feel extremely blessed/ fortunate not to know WTF any of this is...

Just now, Hiphopopotamos said:

Have a feeling polls in Georgia are going to be open late tonight as voters deal with this type of bullshit.

 

Weird how this is always an issue in Georgia 

2 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Weird how this is always an issue in Georgia 

and always in the same place, where you know, the Dems are concentrated.

3 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Weird how this is always an issue in Georgia 

Might backfire and benefit the Dems this year

Shitting on Fox News supports the theory Trump will segue into a competing network when he’s out of office, perhaps rebranding OANN. 

But I hope it’s hard being the face of a network when you’re in prison. At least the color of the outfit may match the makeup (bartered with cigarettes and thousands of unsold bottles of “Trump Water”).

10 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:
He sounds like shit.

Good I hope he feels like garbage today and for the rest of his life.

 

18 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

Random question. Does anyone live in a neighborhood that has its own polling station? My new hood does which blows mind. I grew up in Shady Hollow which is probably 5x the size of where I'm at now and have never heard of a neighborhood having their own. I'm sure it's because my neighborhood is semi-rural and based on geography not size, bit still strange.

Speaking of. Just pulled in on the way back from day care to peek the line. About 30 deep, people in chairs. Must be taking awhile. Lots of Biden signs at the clubhouse which is surprising given Comal County.

Pretty much every elementary and intermediate school here is a polling place so yes, most of our neighborhoods have their own stations. 

So how worried should I be about Russian fuckery with results? It’s what I woke up thinking about, but don’t know if we’ve “dealt with it” or just really really hope it doesn’t happen (and if it happened, how would we know?)

OK, it’s 6:14 am here, time to start drinking.

42 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I hope people don’t spend all trying to find rumors about turnout splits.

unless the person has access to real exit polls, they don’t know anything. Today will constantly be “they’re saying this” without defining they.

Even if they have access to real exit polls it’s a crock of crap usually. Between Election Day being way more GOP likely and the fact that they typically go to urban places (or suburban) but don’t hang out in the sticks you have arrows pointed different directions likely to mess up an exit poll. I wouldn’t even trust those as president Kerry and president Hillary can certainly testify to. 

Channel 200 on directTV is their news mix channel.  Before yesterday it consisted of CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, and the weather channel but for their Election Day coverage they’ve ditched the weather channel and added the very Trumpy Newsmax TV because I don’t know why.

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Exits are going to be a complete mystery this year.

Trump has to win all of the following 7 states to win: Pa, NC, Ga, Fl, Tx, Ia, and Az. He has to go 7 for 7.

Joe just needs to win 1 of those 7 to win. I think Joe wins 4 of the 7.

 

 

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