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6 minutes ago, Chrispy said:

10 generations ago? Lulz. 

6 to 10, actually.   A range that corresponds with her previous claims.   Not that it is of any actual importance. 

2 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

6 to 10, actually.   A range that corresponds with her previous claims.   Not that it is of any actual importance. 

She claimed to be .5% or less Native American? 

Do you need to be a despot in order for Trump to find a strong, flat denial to be totally compelling?

13 minutes ago, Chrispy said:

She claimed to be .5% or less Native American? 

You got something that says she claimed more?

26 minutes ago, Chrispy said:

10 generations ago? Lulz. 

Lulz, using racist slang is so FUN!

 
Welp, if they deny it, what can you do? Now here, have some warplanes.
24 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

Which, to be fair, is the same thing any other US administration in history would do. 

One made a deal with Iran to keep them from developing nukes. The Saudis hated that. Trump tore up that deal 

13 minutes ago, RPM said:

You got something that says she claimed more?

Didn’t Harvard promote Warren as a Native American faculty member? 

15 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

Lulz, using racist slang is so FUN!

Huh?

Just now, Chrispy said:

Huh?

Thinking it's okay to keep calling her Pocahontas, but you already knew that.

1 minute ago, Chrispy said:

Didn’t Harvard promote Warren as a Native American faculty member? 

Did it say what her % was? Did she?

8 minutes ago, Chrispy said:

Didn’t Harvard promote Warren as a Native American faculty member? 

No.

Imo, in terms of real/geo-politics Trump (as inartful as he is) is correct with Saudi Arabia. Losing the military sales over one dead journalist isn't worth it. 

We (as in the USA) have dealt with bad regimes before when it was in our best interests. 

2 minutes ago, RPM said:

Did it say what her % was? Did she?

So it’s your belief that Harvard promoted her as such because she was truthful about her heritage? You’re cute. 

Just now, Asithappens said:

Imo, in terms of real/geo-politics Trump (as inartful as he is) is correct with Saudi Arabia. Losing the military sales over one dead journalist isn't worth it. 

We (as in the USA) have dealt with bad regimes before when it was in our best interests. 

This situation would be a lot different if a video of the killing somehow surfaced.

1 minute ago, Chrispy said:

So it’s your belief that Harvard promoted her as such because she was truthful about her heritage? 

No, you are. I was asking for a link to your claim.

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Just now, SameSame said:

This situation would be a lot different if a video of the killing somehow surfaced.

Not really. Only in the sense that SA would probably back down. 

We don't want to become like Canada, imo, when it comes to being a world moral spokesman. 

You sound like a sociopath, Asithappens.  You should get that checked out.

1 hour ago, Mojo Hand said:

He didn't believe the DNA evidence that exonerated the Central Park 5, so why would he start believing it now?

Dayum.  

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7 minutes ago, RPM said:

No, you are. I was asking for a link to your claim.

She embellished her Native American ancestry to Harvard and Penn, you can’t  be this naive. 

Just now, Fozzz said:

You sound like a sociopath, Asithappens.  You should get that checked out.

Hm, you sound like a "progressive". Might want to get that checked out.

I'm not advocating all this, but let's get adult and real. The US has dealt with other bad regimes and while SA needs us more than we need them, in the big scheme of things one dead journalist isn't worth seriously roiling the waters. It just isn't. Our play is to use harsh words but is this really worth losing weapons sales and all the $ and jobs at Boeing et al ? I don't think so. We should do something, but not to the extent it may significantly harm the US.

Just now, Chrispy said:

She embellished her Native American ancestry to Harvard and Penn, you can’t  be this naive. 

Haven't read all the posts in re this, but wasn't the question whether Harvard promoted her based on her Indian-ness?

This isn't the same thing.

1 minute ago, Chrispy said:

She embellished her Native American ancestry to Harvard and Penn, you can’t  be this naive. 

She didn't embellish it one bit.

1 minute ago, Chrispy said:

She embellished her Native American ancestry to Harvard and Penn, you can’t  be this naive. 

Link?

Oh, before you ask... here ya go.

13 hours ago, Grandioso said:

 

Shouldn't the cocaine tracks on the table be between W and Trump?   Or is that just a shout out for cocaine Mitch.

5 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

Haven't read all the posts in re this, but wasn't the question whether Harvard promoted her based on her Indian-ness?

This isn't the same thing.

They did, yes. She was touted as a minority faculty member. 

10 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

Hm, you sound like a "progressive". Might want to get that checked out.

I'm not advocating all this, but let's get adult and real. The US has dealt with other bad regimes and while SA needs us more than we need them, in the big scheme of things one dead journalist isn't worth seriously roiling the waters. It just isn't. Our play is to use harsh words but is this really worth losing weapons sales and all the $ and jobs at Boeing et al ? I don't think so. We should do something, but not to the extent it may significantly harm the US.

I’d rather us not materially support a genocide in Yemen, but I’d guess that’s something that wouldn’t find troubling. 

Just now, Chrispy said:

They did, yes. She was touted as a minority faculty member. 

So where is your proof that she "embellished" her Native American ancestry?  Do I need to provide a dictionary link defining "embellish" for you?

1 minute ago, Chrispy said:

They did, yes. She was touted as a minority faculty member. 

Again, not the same thing. 

 

Just now, Fozzz said:

I’d rather us not materially support a genocide in Yemen, but I’d guess that’s something that wouldn’t find troubling. 

You should start a thread on the Yemen issue rather than attempting to conflate it with SA. 

“Trump, who has said he would donate $1M to charity if Warren took a DNA test, replied bluntly to the news: "Who cares?"

Trump, replying to news that he’s a mobster: “Who cares ?”

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

So where is your proof that she "embellished" her Native American ancestry? 

That's what he heard they are saying.

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

So where is your proof that she "embellished" her Native American ancestry?  Do I need to provide a dictionary link defining "embellish" for you?

The proof is in the article I linked. She told both universities that she was Native American and they listed her as a minority faculty member. Had they known that she was .5% or less, she would’ve been laughed out of the room. 

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

So where is your proof that she "embellished" her Native American ancestry?  Do I need to provide a dictionary link defining "embellish" for you?

Didn't EW say that she had a grandmother that was Indian? 

The link above says that her Indian-ness didn't kick in until 6 to 10 generations ago. Wouldn't that be an embellishment? 

1 minute ago, Asithappens said:

Didn't EW say that she had a grandmother that was Indian?

No

10 minutes ago, RPM said:

Link?

Oh, before you ask... here ya go.

She explained some family lore of her being of American American ancestry, she should thank her lucky stars that these DNA kits were nonexistent at the time. 

Just now, Asithappens said:

You should start a thread on the Yemen issue rather than attempting to conflate it with SA. 

haha holy shit, how fucking oblivious are you?  who do you think is committing that genocide?  

1 minute ago, Chrispy said:

She explained some family lore of her being of American American ancestry, she should thank her lucky stars that these DNA kits were nonexistent at the time. 

So that's a big, fat, you got nothing?

4 minutes ago, Chrispy said:

The proof is in the article I linked. She told both universities that she was Native American and they listed her as a minority faculty member. Had they known that she was .5% or less, she would’ve been laughed out of the room. 

I'm pretty fucking sure she didn't check the "100% Native American" box you stooge.

2 minutes ago, seven said:

No

Great-grandparent, then? Great-great?

Or was she specific in stating that the connection was 6-10 generations ago? 

Maybe she did. 

Harvard: oh, you're from Oklahoma, do you happen to have any native American ancestry? 

Warren: actually yes, a few generations back 

Harvard: oh neat

Chrispy: EMBELLISHMENT 

4 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

Again, not the same thing. 

 

Au contraire, minority faculty members were viewed as a skin on the wall, pun intended. 

Since this argument started two hours ago, Donald Trump has told 428 lies.

4 minutes ago, seven said:

Harvard: oh, you're from Oklahoma, do you happen to have any native American ancestry? 

Warren: actually yes, a few generations back 

Harvard: oh neat

Chrispy: EMBELLISHMENT 

Well yes, technically. She should’ve said eight to ten generations back. 

45 minutes ago, Chrispy said:

Didn’t Harvard promote Warren as a Native American faculty member? 

Clearly she is. 

This being America and the one drop rule and all.

1 minute ago, Fozzz said:

haha holy shit, how fucking oblivious are you?  who do you think is committing that genocide?  

And... the US should care about Yemen why? Because it's the moral thing to do? And it's not unanimous that what's happening in Yemen is a genocide.

Rwanda? Cambodia? Darfur? The Yazidis? Rohingyas?

It's all bad, no doubt. But that's not why the US should go to the mat. 

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