June 2, 20205 yr I appreciate the effort but without clearly defining what “political talk” is, this poll isn’t exactly informative. Brisket’s thread on reforming police is by definition a political discussion because it takes political will to accomplish any kind of meaningful reform in almost every aspect of society. Discussions on anything to do with the powers of the state are highly political. Edited June 2, 20205 yr by Hugo Stiglitz
June 2, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, BottleRocket said: Can muledick be an option? If so. Muledick. Take the Muledick talk to TexAgs. I don't come to the Daily Texan to hear people's Muledick Manifestos.
June 2, 20205 yr Can the people banned from DT vote? Why not make it a site wide poll? Edited June 2, 20205 yr by Michael Knight
June 2, 20205 yr Now we’ll get that the vote was rigged. Russians! Edited June 2, 20205 yr by EuroHorn
June 2, 20205 yr Popular Post The pattern of "political talk" and its moderation on this board seems to be: Notable news event occurs, example of military police attacking lawful peaceful protesters Posters discuss the current event factually Bad actor poster defends/minimizes/misrepresents the event and misstates material facts of the event Bad actor is called out for misstating facts and framing the issue as something its not Bad actor attacks along political lines Thread is shit upon Blacklab makes new thread with his own title to re-re-frame the discussion and moves posts there The issue isn't politics or not politics. The issue is that people can't handle a viewpoint that isn't in 100% alignment with their own, and if they disagree they shout CR and look for any possible reason to ad-hominem ignore the argument/poster. This poll is a bad poll. You'll get the result you want thanks to framing it as such, but its your board to run the way you see fit.
June 2, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, Captainant said: The issue isn't politics or not politics. The issue is that people can't handle a viewpoint that isn't in 100% alignment with their own, and if they disagree they shout CR and look for any possible reason to ad-hominem ignore the argument/poster. This poll is a bad poll. You'll get the result you want thanks to framing it as such, but its your board to run the way you see fit. It’s not that simple that posters can’t handle your views or don’t want to see a view point that is not their own. It’s seeing thread after thread hijacked in the same way over and over. If your argument is being ignored perhaps the heavy handed way you go about it is the reason. If you are being put on ignore as a poster you’d have to ask the ones who put you on ignore. If people choose not to respond to your argument that’s their right. You have the right to make your argument. If it gets moved elsewhere that’s not censorship. I still do not see what the issue is here.
June 2, 20205 yr 23 minutes ago, Chooky said: Take the Muledick talk to TexAgs. I don't come to the Daily Texan to hear people's Muledick Manifestos. I played bass for Muledick Manifesto back in '89. We weren't very good.
June 2, 20205 yr Just now, Brisketexan said: I played bass for Muledick Manifesto back in '89. We weren't very good. And then you moved over to the Austin Servant Girl Annihilators, and they weren't very good. I sense a pattern.
June 2, 20205 yr Just now, atomheartbevo said: Everything would be better if people used the ignore feature a lot more often. Game changer.
June 2, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said: And then you moved over to the Austin Servant Girl Annihilators, and they weren't very good. I sense a pattern. The pattern was "dude in bands get chicks."
June 2, 20205 yr Author I knew someone would complain about the wording of the poll, and I knew which way they were going to vote examples of current events I consider ok: Protesters were moved out of the way for the president to move The president had a photo op at the church actual examples of political talk from last night discussing the same event: Why do y’all argue with that meth headed fascist? You are a dumbass Bro do you even orange man bad? List the virtues of Jesus Christ’s teachings that Donald Trump embodies.... Yeah says the party of civil war cosplayers when they can’t get their hair cut Yeah, says the party of actually burning shit down. Says the party that embraces white supremacists and turn a blind eye to their instigation
June 2, 20205 yr Popular Post 35 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said: Brisket’s thread on reforming police is by definition a political discussion because it takes political will to accomplish any kind of meaningful reform in almost every aspect of society. Discussions on anything to do with the powers of the state are highly political. I suppose there are many topics that are inherently political. Perhaps a better term would be partisan. Please keep the partisan bullshit in the CR. It is a beating, as anytime a cloak roomer crosses that line in DT, his or her opposite-minded counterpart shows up to point out what a piece of shit that cloak roomer is, and how much like Hitler he or she is, and then the original cloak roomer's buddies come to his or her defense to declare what a piece of shit the other person is and how they are the ones like Hitler, yada yada yada. And if the poo flinging weren't enough, the cloak roomers whine all the fucking time. Too many of them feel like what they believe, what they have to say is SO important, that it MUST BE SEEN AND READ by all of Surly. I'm sure there are exceptions, but for too many cloak roomers, this seems to be the norm.
June 2, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, blacklab said: I knew someone would complain about the wording of the poll, and I knew which way they were going to vote examples of current events I consider ok: Protesters were moved out of the way for the president to move The president had a photo op at the church actual examples of political talk from last night discussing the same event: Why do y’all argue with that meth headed fascist? You are a dumbass Bro do you even orange man bad? List the virtues of Jesus Christ’s teachings that Donald Trump embodies.... Yeah says the party of civil war cosplayers when they can’t get their hair cut Yeah, says the party of actually burning shit down. Says the party that embraces white supremacists and turn a blind eye to their instigation So lets say those were the two OPs. How do you post anything at all about them without it being political. Those 2 things happened. Ok, done. Any responses to them after that are necessarily political. May as well just have a news posting board with no comments allowed. You could call it the Drudge Report. Edited June 2, 20205 yr by FondrenRoad
June 2, 20205 yr 20 minutes ago, Brisketexan said: I played bass for Muledick Manifesto back in '89. We weren't very good. I tried to play rhythm for the Blades of Grass in 1965. They weren’t very good, and I got fired.
June 2, 20205 yr Author Do you enjoy reading shit like this? Why do y’all argue with that meth headed fascist? You are a dumbass Bro do you even orange man bad? List the virtues of Jesus Christ’s teachings that Donald Trump embodies.... Yeah says the party of civil war cosplayers when they can’t get their hair cut Yeah, says the party of actually burning shit down. Says the party that embraces white supremacists and turn a blind eye to their instigation
June 2, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, blacklab said: I knew someone would complain about the wording of the poll, and I knew which way they were going to vote examples of current events I consider ok: Protesters were moved out of the way for the president to move The president had a photo op at the church actual examples of political talk from last night discussing the same event: Why do y’all argue with that meth headed fascist? You are a dumbass Bro do you even orange man bad? List the virtues of Jesus Christ’s teachings that Donald Trump embodies.... Yeah says the party of civil war cosplayers when they can’t get their hair cut Yeah, says the party of actually burning shit down. Says the party that embraces white supremacists and turn a blind eye to their instigation I really think the problem is people that have a post % north of 50 in CR. The only times they come out of CR is to drive-by-post in DT on a topic that already has a thread in CR. Sometimes they are subtle about it, often times though it breaks down and they are not. I'll use Hugo as an example. As far as I can tell, his first post was CR. Random checking of other pages in his post history shows almost exclusively CR until the Covid thread. WTF? People like that are the equivalent of the shitbirds that use the peaceful protests as a cover to incite rioting.
June 2, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, blacklab said: Do you enjoy reading shit like this? Why do y’all argue with that meth headed fascist? You are a dumbass Bro do you even orange man bad? List the virtues of Jesus Christ’s teachings that Donald Trump embodies.... Yeah says the party of civil war cosplayers when they can’t get their hair cut Yeah, says the party of actually burning shit down. Says the party that embraces white supremacists and turn a blind eye to their instigation I don't not enjoy it. I mean the 1st one happens regardless of where he posts. Edited June 2, 20205 yr by Michael Knight
June 2, 20205 yr 19 minutes ago, Parliament said: Bring the banhammer down on the twits who try to CR Bada Bing. You might be surprised who gets banned more (hint--it's often those who bitch the most about posts being political).
June 2, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said: And if the poo flinging weren't enough, the cloak roomers whine all the fucking time. Too many of them feel like what they believe, what they have to say is SO important, that it MUST BE SEEN AND READ by all of Surly. This. They are just like aggy and their fucking wooping. They just can't get through their heads that there are places where wooping is not appropriate or welcome.
June 2, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, blacklab said: Do you enjoy reading shit like this? Why do y’all argue with that meth headed fascist? You are a dumbass Bro do you even orange man bad? List the virtues of Jesus Christ’s teachings that Donald Trump embodies.... Yeah says the party of civil war cosplayers when they can’t get their hair cut Yeah, says the party of actually burning shit down. Says the party that embraces white supremacists and turn a blind eye to their instigation
June 2, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, blacklab said: Do you enjoy reading shit like this? Why do y’all argue with that meth headed fascist? You are a dumbass Bro do you even orange man bad? List the virtues of Jesus Christ’s teachings that Donald Trump embodies.... Yeah says the party of civil war cosplayers when they can’t get their hair cut Yeah, says the party of actually burning shit down. Says the party that embraces white supremacists and turn a blind eye to their instigation its your board. do whatever the fuck you want. there is an ignore feature, neg feature(which I think is kinda stupid but have used it a few times), or people can stop being pussies. or god forbid quit posting. I can't even imagine running to a moderator to whine about something on an internet board.
June 2, 20205 yr 38 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said: Everything would be better if people used the ignore feature a lot more often. And even better than that, if "ignore" also kept out quotations from an ignored original. Edited June 2, 20205 yr by Tex Long
June 2, 20205 yr 37 minutes ago, Brisketexan said: I played bass for Muledick Manifesto back in '89. We weren't very good. Not very good hell, you guys flat sucked.
June 2, 20205 yr 30 minutes ago, Brisketexan said: The pattern was "dude in bands get chicks." Except the guy playing bass.
June 2, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, DDD Dad said: Except the guy playing bass. Yeah, well, the drummer always dies.
June 2, 20205 yr Author 10 minutes ago, dcar00 said: its your board. do whatever the fuck you want. there is an ignore feature, neg feature(which I think is kinda stupid but have used it a few times), or people can stop being pussies. or god forbid quit posting. I can't even imagine running to a moderator to whine about something on an internet board. So you'd enjoy reading pages and pages of stuff like that? It's not being a snowflake and being offended by it, you shouldn't have to read a page of posts like that for 2 good thoughtful posts. If you're at nice restaurant is it ok for people with bullhorns to come in and give your their views on politics?
June 2, 20205 yr Author 1 minute ago, Pig Bellmont said: It’s a false choice. A certain kind of politics is already permitted what kind is that?
June 2, 20205 yr If you want to allow open politics here without shame, just move all the topics to CR and delete this subforum. I think DT as-is adds value though, so I hope you don't do that.
June 2, 20205 yr 26 minutes ago, DDD Dad said: You might be surprised who gets banned more (hint--it's often those who bitch the most about posts being political). I don't think anyone is surprised by that.
June 2, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, blacklab said: If you're at nice restaurant is it ok for people with bullhorns to come in and give your their views on politics? So in this case the board is the restaurant and the posters on this board are the ones assaulting you? I mean what exactly is this forum for if not discussion? Should we moderate all discussion everywhere, if someone doesn't like a movie can that person be banned from the thread discussing said movie? Can a Sooner ask that people stop saying OU sucks on the football board?
June 2, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, blacklab said: So you'd enjoy reading pages and pages of stuff like that? It's not being a snowflake and being offended by it, you shouldn't have to read a page of posts like that for 2 good thoughtful posts. If you're at nice restaurant is it ok for people with bullhorns to come in and give your their views on politics? thoughtful posts and nice restaurant? I thought I was on the surl. seriously though, run it how you see fit. I would assume the owners would decide if the bullhorn folks should be allowed in.
June 2, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Upgrayedd said: More boobs. Can we get more boobs? speaking from personal experience, keep drinking IPAs.
June 2, 20205 yr Doesn't really matter to me. Once a thread gets large enough it's impossible to keep up with the conversation and side conversations,
June 2, 20205 yr I know how to ignore people, and threads that become overly CR - so I don't need you to any pussification of the board. But hey that's just me, I'm just a guest here - so what do I know?
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