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#5302

Interesting, and pretty spot on, perspective from, of all people, Steve O. But he's right. It's the "kind of an alcoholic" purgatory that can keep you locked in drinking for a lot longer. It doesn't blow up your job, your marriage, your friendships, etc. It just keeps you from moving forward in any meaningful way. If you're a full blown alcoholic in the "burn it all to the ground" sort of way, you get to the bottom a hell of a lot faster. Sorry, FB video, so not a great link.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1464282845223388

Personally just hit 90 days. And happy.

#5303
27 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Interesting, and pretty spot on, perspective from, of all people, Steve O. But he's right. It's the "kind of an alcoholic" purgatory that can keep you locked in drinking for a lot longer. It doesn't blow up your job, your marriage, your friendships, etc. It just keeps you from moving forward in any meaningful way. If you're a full blown alcoholic in the "burn it all to the ground" sort of way, you get to the bottom a hell of a lot faster. Sorry, FB video, so not a great link.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1464282845223388

Personally just hit 90 days. And happy.

That's where I was but heading toward losing relationships. My bottom wasn't as bad as a lot of people and that was kept me from seeing what was happening. I'm a month shy of 4 years and it's been glorious.

#5305
3 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

Interesting, and pretty spot on, perspective from, of all people, Steve O. But he's right. It's the "kind of an alcoholic" purgatory that can keep you locked in drinking for a lot longer. It doesn't blow up your job, your marriage, your friendships, etc. It just keeps you from moving forward in any meaningful way. If you're a full blown alcoholic in the "burn it all to the ground" sort of way, you get to the bottom a hell of a lot faster. Sorry, FB video, so not a great link.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1464282845223388

Personally just hit 90 days. And happy.

GOOD JOB Sbbruin. I have a friend on the faculty at UCLA (moved from Fort Worth, my town). When it comes to manufacturing misery and long suffering, that was my MO. I heard a line from Chris Stapleton's song "Whiskey and You" that summed it up perfectly: I drink because I'm lonesome, and I'm lonesome 'cause I drink. That song in it's entirety perfectly describes my first marriage and why it didn't last, but it applies to all of the other people, places, jobs, etc. that were abandoned as well. Keep coming back sir, remarkable things in your life are upcoming.

#5306

Been awhile since I've read this thread, offered kind words and dumped a buncha pos rep on you guys. So here goes.

God bless you all.

#5307

As a friend of mine without a problem observed once, drinking is not a very productive activity for just about anyone who does it.

Of course, a lot of pretty benign drinking accompanies other not-terribly-productive activities, that aren't destructive either, so it's not much of a loss.

It's a spectrum. But a whole lot of people without problems seem to find cutting drinking way down or out entirely to be a good life move.

#5308
40 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

As a friend of mine without a problem observed once, drinking is not a very productive activity for just about anyone who does it.

Of course, a lot of pretty benign drinking accompanies other not-terribly-productive activities, that aren't destructive either, so it's not much of a loss.

It's a spectrum. But a whole lot of people without problems seem to find cutting drinking way down or out entirely to be a good life move.

I spent 6 hours yesterday working on boat projects. Got down there around 9:15 and got a lot done. Used to be more like get there around 11:30-12, do 2 or 3 basic things, take a nap, and drive home. Probably after calling someone to come do the thing I probably should’ve just done myself.

#5309

While reading the thread yesterday afternoon, I noticed the date - January 12. I had my last drink 7 years ago on January 12.

I say it every year. I count this thread and the people participating as the primary reason I determined to stop drinking. I knew I was drinking way too much for a while. I read the thread on TOS from beginning to end one afternoon (probably with a drink in my hand). I read every post in this thread, and still do. This is the reason I bump the thread if it gets too far down. I know people read it that need to read it.

I attempted to moderate my drinking first. The moderation plan started with 2 months of not drinking which I was able to accomplish. After those two months I had a plan of how many drinks I could have and how many days I could have a drink. I even made a spreadsheet. First day after the dry two months I had a drink. I actually did pretty well. Went out for a nice dinner with my wife and didn't order any alcohol. Got home to watch a movie and I poured a little glass of Blantons - probably a finger or two more than an a serving, but that is the only drink I had that night. The next day no drinking. The next day, though . . . 45 days straight of drinking (not following the spreadsheet).

On January 12th, I drank too much and drank all day. The next day I decided the energy and failed effort I put into moderation would be better directed at not drinking at all. I knew I could stop drinking for a given period of time, I'd did 2 months without a drink just a few months before. I didn't know if I could keep from taking another drink ever. I still don't know. What I do know is where that first drink will lead and I don't want that.

Thanks again.

#5310
17 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

Interesting, and pretty spot on, perspective from, of all people, Steve O. But he's right. It's the "kind of an alcoholic" purgatory that can keep you locked in drinking for a lot longer. It doesn't blow up your job, your marriage, your friendships, etc. It just keeps you from moving forward in any meaningful way. If you're a full blown alcoholic in the "burn it all to the ground" sort of way, you get to the bottom a hell of a lot faster. Sorry, FB video, so not a great link.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1464282845223388

Personally just hit 90 days. And happy.

That's my story. By the age of 25 I was a college dropout and had been fired from 3 consecutive entry level jobs. Dead broke and not a single positive thing happening in my life. Drinking every day. Usually alone. I've always been grateful that I wasn't a functional alky

#5311
13 minutes ago, Foosters said:

That's my story. By the age of 25 I was a college dropout and had been fired from 3 consecutive entry level jobs. Dead broke and not a single positive thing happening in my life. Drinking every day. Usually alone. I've always been grateful that I wasn't a functional alky

I was.

Thought about that the other day. I drank for about 25 years, and spent about 20 of those trying to stop.

#5312

Well that was what I decided- it was just too much work and effort to try to moderate in any ENJOYABLE way. I could do it, but it was work and not fun. It was just easier to stop.

I really haven't had almost any major consequences from my drinking, except almost blowing up my marriage. That's why I've been able to drink functionally for decades. And really had fun doing it a lot of the time. Until it stopped being fun. I never drank during the day (except weekends/vacations of course), and for the most part kept it under reasonable control. But I was just surviving. Not thriving. And I decided I needed to see what life could be like without this cloud always hanging over me.

One thing I've definitely found is I have never ONCE woke up and regretted not drinking the night before.

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#5313
7 hours ago, Jerry Callo said:

While reading the thread yesterday afternoon, I noticed the date - January 12. I had my last drink 7 years ago on January 12.

I say it every year. I count this thread and the people participating as the primary reason I determined to stop drinking. I knew I was drinking way too much for a while. I read the thread on TOS from beginning to end one afternoon (probably with a drink in my hand). I read every post in this thread, and still do. This is the reason I bump the thread if it gets too far down. I know people read it that need to read it.

I attempted to moderate my drinking first. The moderation plan started with 2 months of not drinking which I was able to accomplish. After those two months I had a plan of how many drinks I could have and how many days I could have a drink. I even made a spreadsheet. First day after the dry two months I had a drink. I actually did pretty well. Went out for a nice dinner with my wife and didn't order any alcohol. Got home to watch a movie and I poured a little glass of Blantons - probably a finger or two more than an a serving, but that is the only drink I had that night. The next day no drinking. The next day, though . . . 45 days straight of drinking (not following the spreadsheet).

On January 12th, I drank too much and drank all day. The next day I decided the energy and failed effort I put into moderation would be better directed at not drinking at all. I knew I could stop drinking for a given period of time, I'd did 2 months without a drink just a few months before. I didn't know if I could keep from taking another drink ever. I still don't know. What I do know is where that first drink will lead and I don't want that.

Thanks again.

“Not following the spreadsheet” made me laugh harder than I should have. Thank you. ❤️

#5314
25 minutes ago, Kennythetiger said:

“Not following the spreadsheet” made me laugh harder than I should have. Thank you. ❤️

Would've been an impressive spreadsheet if he WAS following it. "Day 1: very moderate drinking. Day 2: no drinking. Days 3-47: drink heavily."

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