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Are these commentators serious? Minny has 2 points in OT and there's 20 seconds left. No you don't send them to the fucking line up 3.

Good god ESPN couldnt be any more biased on who they wanted to win. was holly rowe on the verge of tears? lmao

Stew 4 NCAA MOP and 3 FMVPs (assuming she wins).

Decent. 

They really need to clean up some of the officiating next season. Only thing that wasn't great in this series. 

LOL they gave it to Jonquel. Fairly deserving I guess. 

 

 

 

This was so clear.

 

And this is wild

 

 

 

I think they wanted a G5 and officiated G4 to get one. 

Then in G5 they wanted the Liberty to win but realized halfway through that the Liberty probably weren't going to win and had to cook it a bit. 

The shit at the end of G5 was worse but I feel like the better team lost both games. Minny was bad in OT last night.

Bottom line they just need to let them play the game and have a more consistent whistle. I get that you have series-extending crews and HCA refereeing but this was a lot worse than that. The amount of calls with less than 5 seconds left the entire series was bananas. And they clearly let the coaches bitching about calls affect the refereeing. 

15 hours ago, ztejas said:

LOL they gave it to Jonquel. Fairly deserving I guess. 

Oh no, she deserved it. Her finals stats were insane. She may have shot 50/40/90 during the finals if I recall correctly. Or close to it. 

31 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Oh no, she deserved it. Her finals stats were insane. She may have shot 50/40/90 during the finals if I recall correctly. Or close to it. 

Great shooting #s. Stew didn't shoot well but led them in pts/rebs/stl/blk. 

They were about equally deserving imo. One invaluable on D one on O.

Collier was the best player in the series.

39 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I think they wanted a G5 and officiated G4 to get one. 

Then in G5 they wanted the Liberty to win but realized halfway through that the Liberty probably weren't going to win and had to cook it a bit. 

The shit at the end of G5 was worse but I feel like the better team lost both games. Minny was bad in OT last night.

Bottom line they just need to let them play the game and have a more consistent whistle. I get that you have series-extending crews and HCA refereeing but this was a lot worse than that. The amount of calls with less than 5 seconds left the entire series was bananas. And they clearly let the coaches bitching about calls affect the refereeing. 

The series felt scripted to me. Best scenario for the WNBA was a 5 game series, with NY winning in NY.

The referees in women's college ball are better than what we saw (at times) in this series.

With CC and the increase in attention to women's sports growing, you shouldn't be jacking with the legitimacy of the league.

You could hear Lobo not buying it.

 

 

 

17 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Great shooting #s. Stew didn't shoot well but led them in pts/rebs/stl/blk. 

They were about equally deserving imo. One invaluable on D one on O.

Collier was the best player in the series.

"Liberty forward Jonquel Jones was named Finals MVP after leading New York with 17 points in Game 5. Jones, who was +1000 to win MVP at the start of the series, tied Diana Taurasi for the third-most career points in the Finals with 320.

Collier was by far the best player.

 

26 minutes ago, TommysTinyTowels said:

"Liberty forward Jonquel Jones was named Finals MVP after leading New York with 17 points in Game 5. Jones, who was +1000 to win MVP at the start of the series, tied Diana Taurasi for the third-most career points in the Finals with 320.

Collier was by far the best player.

 

100%  I have complete respect for what I've seen from this whole playoff run.

Will be interesting to see if the "investors" cave.  The bump from TV money looks to get them profitable, but expansion teams and higher salaries could erase that quickly.

 

How do you demand more money when you are still losing millions after 25 years?

33 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Will be interesting to see if the "investors" cave.  The bump from TV money looks to get them profitable, but expansion teams and higher salaries could erase that quickly.

 

How do you demand more money when you are still losing millions after 25 years?

The jump in TV revenue is massive ($60M -> $200M) compared to latest figures I read for the 2024 loss($40M). So the players association is probably wise to renegotiate as soon as possible while all that new cash is getting divvied up. I also fully expect them to massively overreach and make a stink about it when they don't get what they ask for.  A work stoppage would bring the lulz. 

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I saw people freaking out on twitter that game 5 went to OT, so I flipped it on to get my first taste of WNBA playoff action this year.

Holy shit balls that was brutal. Awful, awful, terrible, unwatchable basketball.

5 hours ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

 

 

5 hours ago, Blotto said:

The jump in TV revenue is massive ($60M -> $200M) compared to latest figures I read for the 2024 loss($40M). So the players association is probably wise to renegotiate as soon as possible while all that new cash is getting divvied up. I also fully expect them to massively overreach and make a stink about it when they don't get what they ask for.  A work stoppage would bring the lulz. 

Here’s ESPN’s take on the story.

https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/41927950/wnba-players-opt-cba-face-potential-work-stoppage

8 hours ago, PittsburghTiger said:

Their take and the player reps words show this will not end well for the league. The product isn't good enough to not require deep pockets to grow right now. Making large financial demands when the league has lost so much money is ludicrous. Yeah the players want to get their share, but the investors taking ALL the risk would like to get some of the 100s of millions they have poured into the venture before being held hostage for more financial demands.

Would be a great time for the owners to take them at their word and let them be completely on their own, balance the budget. 
 

They have to know a work stoppage is an empty threat and would hurt them more than the owners. 

They hate CC, but they're trying to ride her to more money that they don't deserve. 

On 10/21/2024 at 3:54 PM, ChickenSandwich said:

Will be interesting to see if the "investors" cave.  The bump from TV money looks to get them profitable, but expansion teams and higher salaries could erase that quickly.

 

How do you demand more money when you are still losing millions after 25 years?

Their most profitable year ever resulted in going red by 40 million.....I get trying to seize the moment but reality is they need to make it to the green before trying to go for that much cash.

 

 

My own personal opinion is the NBA should just stop funding this league, period. It's a loss for all the owners.

16 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Their most profitable year ever resulted in going red by 40 million.....I get trying to seize the moment but reality is they need to make it to the green before trying to go for that much cash.

 

 

My own personal opinion is the NBA should just stop funding this league, period. It's a loss for all the owners.

I think they still see a world where they at least get some of their money back first. 
 

12 teams get a $5 million dollar profit which gets diluted each of the next two years as the league expands.  And that is a fake fairytale number because the other investors are also owed. 
 

Owners are down a quarter billion on their investment, makes sense they would want to make some back before cutting bait. 
 

They need to go fully ponzi and raise new funding to buy out the old funding and clear the slate moving forward. 

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2 hours ago, closetohumping said:

I don’t want them to strike but you gotta get what is yours.  

"Here's the bill for your portion of our debt."

A strike will be a riot. After they realize nobody really fucking cares, it should wrap up in a couple of weeks.

 

W teams might actually more delusional that NBA teams.  The 5 coaches fired so far have made little to no sense.  

 

3 hours ago, d2o said:

 

W teams might actually more delusional that NBA teams.  The 5 coaches fired so far have made little to no sense.  

 

Their players seem to be delusional too

On 10/25/2024 at 2:59 PM, Mittens said:

 

Nah. No way.

I bet they're slip ons - she seems too dumb to know how to lace a pair of sneakers up. 

Another one

 

 

This league is going to really cook when they add 4 teams and dilute a diluted player pool.

Is amazing how poorly a league can be run when they don't have to really on making money and instead get a handout 

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WNBA draft lottery was today.  And the number 1 pick goes to … the Dallas Wings.  They’ll take Paige Buckets.

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On 11/17/2024 at 7:44 PM, Jive Turkey said:

WNBA draft lottery was today.  And the number 1 pick goes to … the Dallas Wings.  They’ll take Paige Buckets.

Well.......maybe.    she could stay in college.  

Valkyrie expansion draft going on now.   Really surprised the Fever didnt protect Temi Fabenle

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Includes a non disparagement relating to Caitlin. 

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