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"You don't know about the guys we got who are gangsta" - Dinamo Zagreb coach probably

Zeros at the half, leaves this safe for now. But it would be nice to see Spurs get a goal and really lock the tie down.

Did they spray the turf with slime?   never seen so much slipping

4 minutes ago, midtown said:

Did they spray the turf with slime?   never seen so much slipping

It's the tired legs of Spurs. 

2 minutes ago, midtown said:

Lol.  Were going out of Europe

A goal still wins it. But yeah, if we go out of Europa here it's hard to see Mourinho being the manager next season.

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Just now, Captain Ron said:

You're only now saying that?

 

No, I was never onboard with the hire, hence the thread title.

This should seal it though.

This season he came on strong, but really just hasn't setup this team for success the past few months. 

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3 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

This season he came on strong, but really just hasn't setup this team for success the past few months. 

West Ham collapse changed everything.

Peak Mourinho achieved in year 2:

1. Piss off a star player (Dele)

2. Questionable lineups

3. Become surly in the media

All while playing boring futbol. It usually takes 3 seasons for this to unfold. At least we got there quicker.

No way Jose survives this right?   And its not like we will be within 2 goals of City?  

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2 minutes ago, midtown said:

No way Jose survives this right?   And its not like we will be within 2 goals of City?  

They’ll wait until after the City loss. Maybe until May, but he’s gone for sure.

7 minutes ago, midtown said:

Holy shit..were cursed

It's not cursed, it's poorly coached.

When you go out playing not to lose you really are taking away your chances to win. This team was playing defense all night long and barely had any attack. This tie should have never come down to a dramatic save in the final minutes of extra time. Spurs should have gone for a goal from minute 1 to put this away early. 

 

5 minutes ago, midtown said:

No way Jose survives this right?   And its not like we will be within 2 goals of City?  

 

2 minutes ago, DeepEastTexas said:

They’ll wait until after the City loss. Maybe until May, but he’s gone for sure.

 

Unless you are firing him now, you might as well let him play this out.

 

5 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

It's not cursed, it's poorly coached.

When you go out playing not to lose you really are taking away your chances to win. This team was playing defense all night long and barely had any attack. This tie should have never come down to a dramatic save in the final minutes of extra time. Spurs should have gone for a goal from minute 1 to put this away early. 

 

I will just add 1 more thing on this last second save. When they are up 3-2 in the aggregate, of course he has that slightly extra step to make it, because he knows they can win the thing. If this comes in the first 20 at 0-0, then I guarantee you Kane scores this goal because the mountain for these guys looks so tall.

 

I guess what baffles me is the tactics considering that Europa was the best path to making the UCL. Why play to defend 0-2 for the whole night?

I was coming to post the same thing

He isn’t banging on Jose, he’s hitting on other players.  Not to say Jose is absolved of any failures, but this is kind of telling. Especially the game plan part.

It sounds like the players need a Come to Jesus moment. Maybe this was it?

 

A good portion of the players quit under Pochettino at the end as well. The roster really needs some wholesale change as well as a managerial change.

10 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

A good portion of the players quit under Pochettino at the end as well. The roster really needs some wholesale change as well as a managerial change.

This seems to be a reoccuring theme for this club.  

3 minutes ago, midtown said:

This seems to be a reoccuring theme for sports.

Fify

Lots of tweets/rumors saying Jose is out unless he finishes top 4.   Which is almost impossible. 

55 minutes ago, midtown said:

Lots of tweets/rumors saying Jose is out unless he finishes top 4.   Which is almost impossible. 

It's Matt Law and the Daily Mail saying it. I think it's likely correct, but I believe it's worth noting that the most reliable Tottenham beat writers, Alasdair Gold, Dan Kilpatrick, Jack Pitt-Brooke, and David Hytner have not reported it.

I would add that Nagelsmann seems unlikely. There's a decent chance Hansi Flick takes over for the German national team and Nagelsmann takes over at Bayern.

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Given the Lloris interview - who do you see as the problem players? Could it be Harry?

3 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

Given the Lloris interview - who do you see as the problem players? Could it be Harry?

Dele and Winks are two of the main ones speculated. I don't see Kane being an issue in any way. 

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Mourinho: Spurs players lacked 'respect' for jobs in loss to Dinamo Zagreb

Stunned Tottenham Hotspur manager Jose Mourinho accused his players of not respecting their jobs after his side crashed out of the Europa League following a 3-2 aggregate defeat by Dinamo Zagreb on Thursday.

Leading 2-0 from the first leg in north London, Tottenham were overwhelming favourites to reach the quarterfinals but produced a tepid performance as Zagreb stormed back with a sensational hat trick by Mislav Orsic.

Coming after his side were heavily criticised for a poor performance in Sunday's north London derby loss at Arsenal, Mourinho suffered one of the most chastening defeats of his glittering managerial career.

While Orsic's hat trick, completed early in extra time, was world class, Tottenham's performance was feeble in the extreme and they capitulated after half-time.

"If I forget the last 10 minutes of the extra time where we did something to get a different result, in the 90 minutes and the first half of extra time I saw one team left everything on the pitch, they left sweat, they left energy, they left blood and in the end they left tears of happiness," a grim-faced Mourinho told BT Sport.

"On the other side my team, and I am there, didn't look like it was playing an important match and if for any of them it's not an important match for me it is, for the respect that I have for my career and my own job."

It was only the third time that Champions League-winning manager Mourinho had lost a match in a European competition by a three-goal margin and the second with Spurs after last season's Champions League drubbing by RB Leipzig.

He also suffered a three-goal defeat against Borussia Dortmund while at Real Madrid. But this felt far worse.

 

Jose Mourinho slammed his players after Thursday's Europa League loss. Getty

Tottenham great Glenn Hoddle, a pundit for BT Sport, described the display as "diabolical" adding: "They lost the plot but they also lost their heart."

Mourinho said he was beyond sad at Tottenham's exit from a competition in which he had earmarked as a route to silverware and the Champions League.

"I just left the Dinamo dressing room where I went to praise them and I feel sorry that one team, that is not my team, won the game based on attitude and compromise.

"I feel sorry that my team is the team that didn't bring to the game not just the basics of football but the basics of life which is to respect our jobs and to give everything."

Tottenham's season is now in danger of unravelling.

They are eighth in the Premier League ahead of Sunday's game against Aston Villa and while they are in the Carabao Cup final, few will fancy their chances against Manchester City.

Mourinho was hired to replace Mauricio Pochettino because of his record of claiming trophies.

But after Thursday's surrender, the winning mentality the club's owners hopes he would instil looks as far away as ever.

Meanwhile, Dinamo's win set off celebrations in Zagreb where several hundred supporters defied Croatia's COVID-19 as they flocked the streets in cars and on foot.

Footage published by the online edition of Croatia's daily Sportske Novosti showed fans congregating around Maksimir stadium.

A seemingly endless motorcade in downtown Zagreb was accompanied by fans setting off flares and fireworks after Dinamo pulled off the biggest shock in Europe's second-tier competition this season.

Speaking after the match, Orsic heaped praise on his teammates as goalkeeper Dominik Livakovic produced a pair of vital saves late on to deny Tottenham squeezing through on away goals.

"I think everyone is a hero tonight because we all breathed as one in an unforgettable match," Orsic told reporters.

"We were gutted after the 2-0 defeat in London because we felt we had it in us to do better and we couldn't put a foot wrong tonight. It was a dream come true.

"We showed that we are capable of standing our ground against a high-level team and if we stay humble and avoid getting carried away we can do more big things in the Europa League."

 

The outcome was also a dream debut for coach Damir Krznar after he took over on Monday from Zoran Mamic who stepped down after learning he faced a prison sentence of four years and eight months for fraud.

Krznar, who was Mamic's assistant, stressed the perfect timing of Dinamo's goals and said his former boss must be given credit for selfless work which laid the foundations to Dinamo's success.

"It panned out ideally because scoring in the opening 15-20 minutes might have amounted to taunting the lion," said Krznar.

"This was my first game in charge but tonight's result is a product of the staff's work in the last two or three years and the constant progress we've made.

"Zoran was in charge but he kept his head down and always credited the staff, never himself. We are a compact unit with a lot of positive energy."

Mourinho: Spurs players lacked 'respect' for jobs in loss to Dinamo Zagreb

5 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

I would add that Nagelsmann seems unlikely. There's a decent chance Hansi Flick takes over for the German national team and Nagelsmann takes over at Bayern.

Who would we think would be a reasonably able to get replacement?

Idk much about managers other than the obvious big names. What about Klinnsman? I only know him from his time with the USMNT, but he's got a relationship with the club and has got experience. Thoughts on his style on the non international level?

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21 minutes ago, TheBryMan81 said:

Who would we think would be a reasonably able to get replacement?

Idk much about managers other than the obvious big names. What about Klinnsman? I only know him from his time with the USMNT, but he's got a relationship with the club and has got experience. Thoughts on his style on the non international level?

No clue. It's been reported by reputable reporters that Nagelsmann is the top target. Maybe now more names start filtering out. I don't see Klinsmann being a serious target at all.

6 hours ago, TheBryMan81 said:

Who would we think would be a reasonably able to get replacement?

Idk much about managers other than the obvious big names. What about Klinnsman? I only know him from his time with the USMNT, but he's got a relationship with the club and has got experience. Thoughts on his style on the non international level?

nagelsmann and brendan rodgers have been the top two targets for the past month.

hard pass on klinsmann. his last non-international managerial stop lasted three months.

I get Nagelsmann is the top target, but like Schulz mentioned, he could become a target for Bayern (I could see Barca looking his way too if they sack Koeman). If either one is the case, I highly doubt he's coming to Spurs. So who else is out there?

Rodgers would be interesting.

 

This was old but hits most of the notes.

Caley goes on to say that Nagelsmann is probably using Spurs to get the moves to happen from the big clubs.

 

18 hours ago, TheBryMan81 said:

Who would we think would be a reasonably able to get replacement?

Idk much about managers other than the obvious big names. What about Klinnsman? I only know him from his time with the USMNT, but he's got a relationship with the club and has got experience. Thoughts on his style on the non international level?

He's a flat no. His stint at Bayern showed that he is not a club coach. He failed at Bayern because he had to deal with day to day strategy, training, etc. That's not his thing. He is a perfect xNT coach because he doesn't need to do that day in day out. Just for a few weeks at a time and then when tournaments roll around. 

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