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38 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Of all the European empires, I believe it was only the Portuguese who abolished slavery in its colonies after the US. The French, Spanish, English, and Dutch all abolished it well before the US throughout their empires.

The fact that they didn't allow that "peculiar institution" in their home countries but "out of sigh, out of mind" in their colonies for a good while longer doesn't negate the fact that they still prohibited it before us.

I recall my junior high/high school in northern Virginia in the mid-1980s still had "Slave Day" as a homecoming week fundraiser, where students could bid on an upperclass student to be their "slave" for a day, i.e., give them a ride to and from school, carry their books, sing in front of the cafeteria (no, we did not have a cotton field next to our school).  I think around 1988 or so they changed the title to "Serf Day" because they finally realized "Slave Day" might not sound so good anymore.  And they ultimately did away with that fundraiser altogether.

So while Portugal abolished slavery technically after the U.S., it still exhibited for one day of the year at Quantico High School during part of the twentieth century. 

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4 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I recall my junior high/high school in northern Virginia in the mid-1980s still had "Slave Day" as a homecoming week fundraiser, where students could bid on an upperclass student to be their "slave" for a day, i.e., give them a ride to and from school, carry their books, sing in front of the cafeteria (no, we did not have a cotton field next to our school).  I think around 1988 or so they changed the title to "Serf Day" because they finally realized "Slave Day" might not sound so good anymore.  And they ultimately did away with that fundraiser altogether.

So while Portugal abolished slavery technically after the U.S., it still exhibited for one day of the year at Quantico High School during part of the twentieth century. 

Yikes. I graduated from a small-town Texas HS in 1989. That's a first for me, and there *are* miles and miles of cotton fields as far as the eye can see, starting on the north side of town. Inside-Out Day? Check. Funny socks? Check. Slaves? Yeah, we didn't have that one. Jesus, I think we forget how little still hadn't changed culturally by the time we reached that age.

27 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I recall my junior high/high school in northern Virginia in the mid-1980s still had "Slave Day" as a homecoming week fundraiser, where students could bid on an upperclass student to be their "slave" for a day

We had that at my school in ‘92. The Sophomore girl who bought me, a very talented dancer who ended up on Broadway, absolutely loathed the senior girl I had been dating on and off. 
I have to say it was a good day. 

1 hour ago, bolverk said:

Of all the European empires, I believe it was only the Portuguese who abolished slavery in its colonies after the US. The French, Spanish, English, and Dutch all abolished it well before the US throughout their empires.

The fact that they didn't allow that "peculiar institution" in their home countries but "out of sigh, out of mind" in their colonies for a good while longer doesn't negate the fact that they still prohibited it before us.

You realize I said as much?

Slavery was easy for them to ignore because they weren't confronted with it on the daily like we were.  Also, it wasn't an immediate economic question.

So, despite their ability to largely ignore it, they abolished it anyway, although it wasn't much of economic question.

That it was an economic question here, that we chose cheap labor and profit over grotesque inhumanity and immoraility doesn't exactly speak well of us.  And it took a war to get there, well  . . . . 

Where they did have an advantage over us is not having to assimilate a sizable percentage of the population in the days, months, years, and centuries after they were recognized as human.  That's a pig we still haven't swallowed.

5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

You realize I said as much?

Slavery was easy for them to ignore because they weren't confronted with it on the daily like we were.  Also, it wasn't an immediate economic question.

So, despite their ability to largely ignore it, they abolished it anyway, although it wasn't much of economic question.

That it was an economic question here, that we chose cheap labor and profit over grotesque inhumanity and immoraility doesn't exactly speak well of us.  And it took a war to get there, well  . . . . 

Where they did have an advantage over us is not having to assimilate a sizable percentage of the population in the days, months, years, and centuries after they were recognized as human.  That's a pig we still haven't swallowed.

Yes, I do realize that and thought I was providing additional detail to your post. Probably just poorly worded, as I was jumping from topics. You’re right, of course, in this one as well.

Again, adding to this post, I looked it up and the UK paid £20 million to its colonial slaveholders as compensation during the 1830s when the slaves were freed. According to this site, that comes out to roughly £32.5 billion today, or roughly $43.7 billion. According to the US Treasury, we spent $5.2 billion on the Civil War, coming out to $103 billion today. We also lost 750,000 souls.

Man, it sure would've been a lot cheaper to do the right thing in the first place.

King Leopold's Ghost narrates the atrocities committed by Belgium during the late 1800s.  I highly recommend it.  

18 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Man, it sure would've been a lot cheaper to do the right thing in the first place.

"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else." -Winston Churchill

20 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Yes, I do realize that and thought I was providing additional detail to your post. Probably just poorly worded, as I was jumping from topics. You’re right, of course, in this one as well.

Again, adding to this post, I looked it up and the UK paid £20 million to its colonial slaveholders as compensation during the 1830s when the slaves were freed. According to this site, that comes out to roughly £32.5 billion today, or roughly $43.7 billion. According to the US Treasury, we spent $5.2 billion on the Civil War, coming out to $103 billion today. We also lost 750,000 souls.

Man, it sure would've been a lot cheaper to do the right thing in the first place.

Just making sure no one was taking it as a justification.  Just sort of an historical curiosity that makes the "American experience with slavery" somewhat unique.  But not in a good way.

Our use of slavery was arguably more reprehensible than the rest of our contemporaries.

We also come out very badly on the post-slavery assimilation issue, but that's something that most of the rest of the world got to take a little slower than we did.  A weak defense of our inhumanity.

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Let me keep my black ass out of the Christ following thread... It's a US slavery thread, which kinda makes sense... Unfortunately. 

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yeah, the white frats at UT from 92 until 96 hired black kids to dress up and literally pick cotton in the frat yards while the rich whites drank and date raped one another.   these are your GOP leaders now!   praise Jesus?   I should get my white ass out of this thread too :D.   Don't get mad you soft white country club pussies.   

4 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

One thing he said that was bullshit is we were among the first nations to abolish slavery.

We were among the last, particularly among what might be considered enlightened nations.

This depends on a lot of definitions including “slavery” and “nations.”  We were well behind the European nations we consider peers but something resembling what we call “slavery” existed in many places after U.S. abolition and only disappeared via more or less coercion from European powers and especially the British. 

8 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Ekklessia does NOT mean "government structure."  Ekklessia is a broad term, meaning gathering of people

Yeah, that CK take is the first time that I have ever seen someone interpret the word in that way. 

 

4 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

What bible is this dude reading it sounds wild as fuck!

 

I dunno.  But there is one thing I do know with rock-solid certainty: he thinks about sucking dick at least 40 times every day.

There is a 100% chance that dude is a self-loathing closeted gay man.  Overcompensation by "masculinity" this and "head of the family" that and "gays should be executed" is a guaranteed tell.

Just now, Brisketexan said:

I dunno.  But there is one thing I do know with rock-solid certainty: he thinks about sucking dick at least 40 times every day.

There is a 100% chance that dude is a self-loathing closeted gay man.  Overcompensation by "masculinity" this and "head of the family" that and "gays should be executed" is a guaranteed tell.

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1 minute ago, bolverk said:

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Yep.  Queerer than a football bat (NTTAWWT).  Seriously.  Just be your true self and suck some dick.  You'll be so much happier, AND you won't have to project all your self-loathing onto being hateful to other people.

9 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Queerer than a football bat (NTTAWWT).

dude outkicked his coverage for sure. good looking kids. 

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30 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

What bible is this dude reading it sounds wild as fuck!

 

I don't think he knows what pagan means.

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

I dunno.  But there is one thing I do know with rock-solid certainty: he thinks about sucking dick at least 40 times every day.

There is a 100% chance that dude is a self-loathing closeted gay man.  Overcompensation by "masculinity" this and "head of the family" that and "gays should be executed" is a guaranteed tell.

For some reason, Protestants seem to have an obsession with masculinity. There were Christian masculinity movements in the past, particularly in the Victorian era but those were more Dead Poets Society and Rugby than what we see today. The current iteration is just a mishmash of manosphere talking points and bizarre bible studies with the occasional reference to John Piper.

 

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Dominational differences, 2025 edition:

In the battle of the Pope vs Mommy Influencers, Jeff Leach isn’t afraid to make the tough calls.

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Allie Beth is not a Christian. Christians believe there's no such thing as "innocent life." 

25 minutes ago, Bookman said:

Allie Beth is not a Christian. Christians believe there's no such thing as "innocent life." 

Thanks Augustine. 

8 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

The future of Texas and Christianity 

 

 

I am a Christian who tries very hard not to do politics. I think there is an appropriate way to handle that, but I also think it's one of those things that reasonable minds can disagree about.

Being apolitical to the best of your ability or being politically active based on your faith is a choice (often via intrepreation) that isn't tied to salvation or doctrine, just a distinctive on interpretations of different theological and/or biblical issues that don't define what it means to essentially be a Christian. 

34 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

I am a Christian who tries very hard not to do politics. I think there is an appropriate way to handle that, but I also think it's one of those things that reasonable minds can disagree about.

Being apolitical to the best of your ability or being politically active based on your faith is a choice (often via intrepreation) that isn't tied to salvation or doctrine, just a distinctive on interpretations of different theological and/or biblical issues that don't define what it means to essentially be a Christian. 

Even democraps (derp) are Gods kids right?

14 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Even democraps (derp) are Gods kids right?

People are not the enemy.

People are the mission.

Pope is obviously correct re Catholic dogma. Along those lines, what about divorced Catholics sans formal annulment (i.e.,the vast majority of Catholic divorces)? In particular, those in subsequent relationships/partnerships? Can they get Catholic awards without all the crying? Nah, just 'bortion and gheys.

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On 9/24/2025 at 9:27 AM, Brisketexan said:

Also accurate.

Although I dunno about how well it woulda worked out if Jesus was a China man.  I mean, he'd have done all that profound stuff at the Last Supper, and then had to do it all over again a coupla hours later cuz he was hungry again.

On 9/24/2025 at 9:29 AM, Kennythetiger said:

Bitch of a fortune cookie, too. 

They hired the finest waiters, they had checkered table cloths
Someone took a Polaroid so the moment wasn't lost
And all that you could eat on a Chinese food buffet
But when Jesus read his cookie
It said "stay at home today"

11 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Dominational differences, 2025 edition:

In the battle of the Pope vs Mommy Influencers, Jeff Leach isn’t afraid to make the tough calls.

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The Church should ditch ecumenism and start calling out heretics again. 

Without the burning, of course.

3 hours ago, David Dennison said:

The Church should ditch ecumenism and start calling out heretics again. 

Without the burning, of course.

First, the western church has to unlearn everything they have been taught for the last 1000 years. Essentially agree with your point with the caveat that the western church needs to realize that they are the heretics and everything they have spawned is a result. Including and especially the American expressions.  

15 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Dominational differences, 2025 edition:

In the battle of the Pope vs Mommy Influencers, Jeff Leach isn’t afraid to make the tough calls.

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Well, they are both Baptists who probably think Pope Leo might be the anti-christ.

1 minute ago, F250 said:

Well, they are both Baptists who probably think Pope Leo might be the anti-christ.

The movies and/or tv shows were entertaining doh. I have very low standards. 

5 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

The movies and/or tv shows were entertaining doh. I have very low standards. 

I read two Left Behind novels when I used to fly back and forth to Omaha for work many years ago. It was cheesy, but it kept my attention while flying. 

I read two Left Behind novels when I used to fly back and forth to Omaha for work many years ago. It was cheesy, but it kept my attention while flying. 

My mom guilted me into read the whole series. I skipped the Bible parts and just read the cheesy story. It was mildly entertaining. That said - anyone that read those and doesn’t see Donny as the anti-Christ in the book failed reading comprehension.

Presbyterian? If I cared about what some limp-wristed Scotsman deepstater thought, then my ancestors would've stayed in Dumfries. The whole point in coming to America was to get some land far from the prying eyes of the organized bastards so that we could follow some layman pastor as he misinterpreted The Bible every Sunday. That's the real American dream. 

9 minutes ago, Captainant said:

 

yikes, watch your cornholes empathetic Christians

These people are demons. 

 

What's interesting about the rise of Christian Nationalism is that it's biggest advocates are Reformed and pretty much dislike every Christian sect including the Evangelical dorks. The fucking Reformed have always sucked, I don't quite understand why so many others that would be in their crosshairs don't see it.

These people don't believe in the freedom of religion and definitely don't like your dispensationalist Rapture bullshit. 

51 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

If you have to bleat about how good of a Christian you are, you are a shitty Christian.

Almost like Jesus had a parable on that exact topic, or something 

(Luke 18:10-14)

40 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Almost like Jesus had a parable on that exact topic, or something 

(Luke 18:10-14)

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On 10/7/2025 at 4:36 PM, F250 said:

What's interesting about the rise of Christian Nationalism is that it's biggest advocates are Reformed and pretty much dislike every Christian sect including the Evangelical dorks. The fucking Reformed have always sucked, I don't quite understand why so many others that would be in their crosshairs don't see it.

These people don't believe in the freedom of religion and definitely don't like your dispensationalist Rapture bullshit. 

To be fair, the rapture is stupid and not biblical.

30 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

To be fair, the rapture the culturally dominant strain of American "Christianity" is stupid and not biblical.

FIF accuracy.

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