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It's a bizarre, trippy new Charlie Kaufman movie on Netflix starring Jessie Buckley (Lyudmilla in Chernobyl) and Jesse Plemons. Do yourself a favor and try not to read anything about it before seeing it, but if you're a Kaufman fan you should enjoy it. I'll put some spoilery stuff in spoiler tags.

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The ending didn't quite land for me - I had to poke around the internet after to confirm what I thought had happened. The movie is based on a book that apparently makes the connection between the janitor and the other characters very clear at the end. I want to do a rewatch now to see everything again through the lens of knowing the whole story.

 

watched it last night, put some thoughts in the Netflix thread but yeah... that was weird and possibly good but definitely interesting. Weird. 

 

PLATITUDES, ALL!

just read an explainer and yeah i totally missed the overall thing that was going on, if that was supposed to be clear (I think maybe it was and wasn't - not supposed to be easily understood but definitely made clear through careful examination). I may watch again at some point.

Jesus this was a long form of the same basic premise. I get it. Janitor.  Yet there’s still over an hour left.  
 

It’s no Adaptation. 

  • 3 weeks later...
On 9/5/2020 at 9:20 AM, Celery Man said:

just read an explainer and yeah i totally missed the overall thing that was going on, if that was supposed to be clear (I think maybe it was and wasn't - not supposed to be easily understood but definitely made clear through careful examination). I may watch again at some point.

I think I figured out what was going on at some point. What explainer did you read?

I think.... this one

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2020-09-04/im-thinking-of-ending-things-explained-netflix

 

I think I would have picked up on it more/quicker if I had been more actively watching the movie from the get. I've watched a ton of movies this year and was filling out some paperwork as I started this one, not realizing how... both weird and visual it would be.

  • 11 months later...

Meh. We made the mistake of picking this off of a web site because I let the wife pick the movie. It was obvious from the get-go that Jake was the Janitor. It was just a tortuous two hours of bloviation on things like the new swing set at the old house. I thought the ending made sense - just like the pigs on the farm, he died from sitting still. Like the pigs, he died a slow, agonizing death because he never moved, never left home. Basically like a lot of artsy movies takes a simple concept and tries to outsmart itself with a bunch of boring, unattractive actors and obscure references to literature only an English major or Brooklyn barista would enjoy.

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On 9/5/2020 at 11:57 AM, Liquor and Poker said:

It’s no Adaptation. 

God, I love that fucking movie.

On 8/26/2021 at 1:17 AM, C-Man said:

God, I love that fucking movie.

It’s brilliant. And it’s tempting to read The Orchid Thief just to see how much it differs from the “adaptation” which is a masterpiece of self-referential fiction. I can’t even imagine how Charlie Kauffman came up with that story about himself and writing the adaptation and with the call-backs to Being John Malkovich. Which was also brilliant. And anyone who disses Nic Cage should totally watch Adaptation. Such a great performance in a dual role.

And then how could Synecdoche, New York suck so hard? It’s a mystery. 

I don't think it is a mystery at all.  Spike Jonze and Michel Gondry were able to channel Kaufman's schizophrenic storytelling into 3 incredible movies.  After watching Synecdoche, I was pretty sure I would never watch another Kaufman film that he actually directed himself.  I wasn't even the least bit interested in seeing his new film, as I believe he cannot put his own stories on film in a coherent way.  

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9 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

It’s brilliant. And it’s tempting to read The Orchid Thief just to see how much it differs from the “adaptation” which is a masterpiece of self-referential fiction. I can’t even imagine how Charlie Kauffman came up with that story about himself and writing the adaptation and with the call-backs to Being John Malkovich. Which was also brilliant. And anyone who disses Nic Cage should totally watch Adaptation. Such a great performance in a dual role.

And then how could Synecdoche, New York suck so hard? It’s a mystery. 

Nic Cage is as bipolar an actor as I remember ever seeing. Sometimes he's utterly brilliant and other times he -- and the material -- is just gutter trash.

34 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Nic Cage is as bipolar an actor as I remember ever seeing. Sometimes he's utterly brilliant and other times he -- and the material -- is just gutter trash.

Yeah, he’ll do anything for a paycheck. But he’s had his moments. Remember when Eddie Murphy did Best Defense?

10 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

And then how could Synecdoche, New York suck so hard? It’s a mystery. 

the trailer was so good, i was so excited to see it.  and yeah.

i still have "little person" on my playlist somewhere.

8 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

the trailer was so good, i was so excited to see it.  and yeah.

i still have "little person" on my playlist somewhere.

It was brutal. I kept watching thinking that anytime now it was going to be good.

Nope.

1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Yeah, he’ll do anything for a paycheck. But he’s had his moments. Remember when Eddie Murphy did Best Defense?

It's weird. As I recall, Eddie Murphy isn't the problem in Best Defense. It's just not very good material. Nic Cage can be the absolute worst thing in some of the movies he's done.

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