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No, Mike Leach, YOU'RE awesome! [Pirates Last Voyage]

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It was said that there were 6 main plays, from which there were infinite reads.  The Air Raid was built to take whatever the defense gave it.

It wasn't infallible, but it sure did even the playing field for generally less talented players.

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4 minutes ago, Iceman said:

It was said that there were 6 main plays, from which there were infinite reads.  The Air Raid was built to take whatever the defense gave it.

It wasn't infallible, but it sure did even the playing field for generally less talented players.

Saw a video where Leach explained how his WRs lined up in different places but always ran the same route.  He said "I don't need to teach him a new route.  I just need to teach him a different place to stand."

On 6/5/2025 at 10:08 PM, Iceman said:

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I still can't get over this score at this and point and they still lost...

On 1/9/2020 at 1:11 PM, satyanash said:

 

This didn't age well.  I wasn't receipt hunting.  This is just where I apparently stopped following this thread.  

On 6/5/2025 at 10:08 PM, Iceman said:

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Turn off the TV and go to the golf course, this one is oooooovvvvvaaaaa!!! 

1 hour ago, Drew said:

I still can't get over this score at this and point and they still lost...

Neither could they, and therein lies the substance behind the beauty of the gif/ meme

23 hours ago, idigTexas said:

This didn't age well.  I wasn't receipt hunting.  This is just where I apparently stopped following this thread.  

Sarkisian did say he was approached before Texas by a few programs and turned them down and then jumped on the Texas opportunity when it came up.

7 minutes ago, DanTheHorn said:

Sarkisian did say he was approached before Texas by a few programs and turned them down and then jumped on the Texas opportunity when it came up.

I don't doubt that at all.  What I found amusing was the take that hiring Sarkisian rather than Leach would have been a significant downgrade.  Lucky for us, Sarkisian stayed put at 'Bama until we called.  

Sark is a fine coach, and one hellova redemption story.

He's gonna have to do something besides having the most talent on the field to remotely approach Leach's impact on the game of football.

That doesn't mean Mississippi State fucked up.  It doesn't mean Texas didn't get the best candidate either.

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24 minutes ago, idigTexas said:

I don't doubt that at all.  What I found amusing was the take that hiring Sarkisian rather than Leach would have been a significant downgrade.  Lucky for us, Sarkisian stayed put at 'Bama until we called.  

I didn't take it that way. I thought of the grenade launcher in a different context - more along the lines of, if asked, which coach is a bull in a china shop? or who is going to come in and shake things up and do it in a way that is not the standard way (i.e. vanilla)?

a) Steve Sarkisian

b) Mike Leach

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3 minutes ago, DanTheHorn said:

I didn't take it that way. I thought of the grenade launcher in a different context - more along the lines of, if asked, which coach is a bull in a china shop? or who is going to come in a shake things up and do it in a way that is not the standard way (i.e. vanilla)?

a) Steve Sarkisian

b) Mike Leach

I can see that.  Regardless, I'm very happy with vanilla.  

1 minute ago, idigTexas said:

I can see that.  Regardless, I'm very happy with vanilla.  

Most coaches want to do it the vanilla way. Accumulate the best possible talent through recruiting, develop your talent to its' full potential, create a winning process and make sure you can win in many ways. Few can execute the formula. Leach on the other hand said I never call run plays the QB audibles into run plays, I can win with lesser talent because I will teach them to execute at a high level, defense what is that? I will ruffle everyone's feathers because I believe my way wins and in doing so he changed college football offenses in so many ways.

54 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Sark is a fine coach, and one hellova redemption story.

He's gonna have to do something besides having the most talent on the field to remotely approach Leach's impact on the game of football.

That doesn't mean Mississippi State fucked up.  It doesn't mean Texas didn't get the best candidate either.

Leach spent much of his life growing up and coaching in towns with populations less than 50,000 so going to a place like Starkville was returning to his roots in some respect.  He had a 10-12 year stretch where he coached at Ky, OU, and Tech and those were the "big" cities that he lived in during his life.  

Additionally, when you cut your teeth coaching at places like Cal -Poly, College of the Desert, Iowa Wesleyan, in Finland, and Wazzu you have been fighting with a short stick in terms of resources and facilities so again I doubt he saw the challenges in Starkville most every other coach would see when looking at that job.

If you are Sark, Sitting at Bama, anything you need at your disposal, you can get into any recruits living room in the country, you already know how damn tough it is to be a head coach, do you really consider that job? 

Truthfully, I foresee a time in the future whenever that might be when we start to see the consolidation AND reduction in the top tier of college football when the network people are sitting around with the conference reps and ask "Do we really need to include 2 schools from Mississippi ( and or Indiana etc.....)?" A conference rep will speak up and say something about tradition etc., to which the network people will laugh and correctly point out that the conferences sold out the idea of tradition a very long time ago and the only discussion is who is kept and who is culled.  

30 minutes ago, DanTheHorn said:

Most coaches want to do it the vanilla way. Accumulate the best possible talent through recruiting, develop your talent to its' full potential, create a winning process and make sure you can win in many ways. Few can execute the formula. Leach on the other hand said I never call run plays the QB audibles into run plays, I can win with lesser talent because I will teach them to execute at a high level, defense what is that? I will ruffle everyone's feathers because I believe my way wins and in doing so he changed college football offenses in so many ways.

The funny thing is that Leach gave a number of coaches fits, but when Petersen got hired at UW the Dawgs defense with Kwiatkowski and Lake locked down the Wazzu offense for 6 straight years and Lake would just talk more and more shit each year.  

They were Leach's kryptonite. 

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There will never be another like him.  Wish he had gotten further or been around for the playoff era...imagine him on the big stage in the cotton bowl before playing ND and talking about Catholics

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