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Holy fuck, the refs just raped Iowa State. Shoulder to shoulder block called a block below the waist against ISU defense. 

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A big lineman is coming to maul you and you duck down and get a penalty for it....when you stop them on 3rd down.  

Which big 12 ref crew is doing that Iowa State game? I can't find it anywhere.

If I'm ISU I just start playing dirty....I mean playing clean isn't getting you anywhere so get your money's worth.

That’s a dumb rule.  This is football. You should be able to cut a blockers legs.  How else are you supposed to defense the counter.  Fucking bullshit.  
 

you can tell Campbell is beyond frustrated  because he knows there’s no other way to beat that play. And he’s taught that because they do it against OUs counter. 

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2 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

That’s a dumb rule.  This is football. You should be able to cut a blockers legs.  How else are you supposed to defense the counter.  Fucking bullshit.  
 

you can tell Campbell is beyond frustrated  because he knows there’s no other way to beat that play. And he’s taught that because they do it against OUs counter. 

He didn't even touch the guys legs. It wasn't even close to a low block

It's not just that they suck.  The suck in ways that materially affect the outcome of games week after week.  Football should not be a situation where you have to continually have to overcome bad officiating.

Just now, MonkeyDoughnut said:

He didn't even touch the guys legs. It wasn't even close to a low block

Maybe the lineman has legs up to his tits?

He was a smaller dude with a lineman coming at him like a freight train.  I guess the "Safe" thing for him to do was just stand straight up and get his fucking clock cleaned.

3 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

That’s a dumb rule.  This is football. You should be able to cut a blockers legs.  How else are you supposed to defense the counter.  Fucking bullshit.  
 

you can tell Campbell is beyond frustrated  because he knows there’s no other way to beat that play. And he’s taught that because they do it against OUs counter. 

And the defender went SHOULDER TO SHOULDER with the OLman.  By definition, if your shoulders touch, it CANNOT be a block below the waist.

So big12 wants Rapelore and who in the championship game.  We may get fucked raw in a few hours by these fucks

4 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

LOL....they are not even trying to hide it.

 

4 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Holy fuck who just saw that call?????

 

4 minutes ago, blacklab said:

surprise - ISU fucked again on an awful illegal block call

 

4 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

This is absolutely fixed. Unbelievable. Fuck these refs

I’m flabbergasted. I’m not one to bitch about refs, even when they disproportionately fuck the Horns (OSU years ago and Bama were the worst I’d ever seen that definitely cost us both games).  But never seen a group of officials - not a single crew but the whole conference - be as consistently bad as this conference. It’s an embarrassment and doesn’t get enough national attention. 

Had that game on my side TV and saw Campbell lose his mind and had to rewind it.  Holy Hell that is bad.  I don't understand how this conference has such incompetent officiating.

8 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Ok that ISU defensive block below waist gotta be worst call I have ever seen, ever..

Credit Campbell calling timeout just to let refs have it.

It’s bad. The only thing close to the non-safety call which is the worst I’ve ever seen. 

7 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

That’s a dumb rule.  This is football. You should be able to cut a blockers legs.  How else are you supposed to defense the counter.  Fucking bullshit.  
 

you can tell Campbell is beyond frustrated  because he knows there’s no other way to beat that play. And he’s taught that because they do it against OUs counter. 

Apparently the smaller player is just supposed to allow himself to get pancaked, letting the giant blocker move on to the next level. Fucking dipshitted rule is what it is.

4 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

He didn't even touch the guys legs. It wasn't even close to a low block

I’m saying even if it was it should be allowed.  I understand it wasn’t. 

2 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Had that game on my side TV and saw Campbell lose his mind and had to rewind it.  Holy Hell that is bad.  I don't understand how this conference has such incompetent officiating.

It isn't incompetent. It is rigged as fuck.

2 minutes ago, Skipper said:

I don't understand how this conference has such incompetent officiating.

Is it a bug or is it a feature?

Shaving points, affecting the outcome of games, these fuckers are on the take.  

I would say I feel bad for ISU, but at this point its time to accept that this is Big 12 football and this is the world they want to be in. Maybe im heartless at this point, but after all of the bullshit that every team gets away against Texas, it is somewhat refreshing to see another program getting blatantly jobbed on a national broadcast.

At some point, the outcry from the other fan bases, that aren't Texas, may force them to fix the officiating. They won't listen to the outcry from Texas, but maybe they will listen to the mighty ISU fanbase... Yeah, your fucked. Get used to the slanted officiating for as long as the Big 12 is still alive. Maybe people should have pressured the Big 12 when it was happening to Texas instead of snickering and saying we deserved it..

Officiating in the Big 12 has gotten so bad, one can actually keep track of a conference game by reading the "Fuck Big 12 refs" thread.

On that note, it's Baylor + Refs 17, ISU 7.

2 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

It isn't incompetent. It is rigged as fuck.

I'll agree we've seen enough against us to know we aren't getting calls.  But can't imagine anyone cares about Iowa St. vs. Baylor.  In that instance it was pure incompetence.

3 minutes ago, Porterhouse said:

It’s bad. The only thing close to the non-safety call which is the worst I’ve ever seen. 

Obviously neither of you saw the defensive holding call on a defensive lineman on the run play during the OSU game.

Just now, UTEX90 said:

Obviously neither of you saw the defensive holding call on a defensive lineman on the run play during the OSU game.

The OSU game was it's own animal.  Bama game was bad but there were about 10 calls/no calls in that OSU game, combined with the official bumping Charlie and flagging him 15, that made it beyond obvious it was intentional.  

3 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

I would say I feel bad for ISU, but at this point its time to accept that this is Big 12 football and this is the world they want to be in. Maybe im heartless at this point, but after all of the bullshit that every team gets away against Texas, it is somewhat refreshing to see another program getting blatantly jobbed on a national broadcast.

At some point, the outcry from the other fan bases, that aren't Texas, may force them to fix the officiating. They won't listen to the outcry from Texas, but maybe they will listen to the mighty ISU fanbase... Yeah, your fucked. Get used to the slanted officiating for as long as the Big 12 is still alive. Maybe people should have pressured the Big 12 when it was happening to Texas instead of snickering and saying we deserved it..

I had the same initial thought, but when it’s Texas versus the #1 team in the country from OOC, and it’s that egregious, nobody was snickering. I do agree that the more teams this happens to, the faster real change could occur. 

Unless there are real consequences for the refs fucking up, there will never be a change. Refs are the most protected class of workers in any profession, and it’s ridiculous.

Conference being the ones to employ the refs with all the money on the line these days is definitely fox in the hen house.  

2 minutes ago, UTEX90 said:

Obviously neither of you saw the defensive holding call on a defensive lineman on the run play during the OSU game.

I’m pretty sure that was the same game on the OSU repeated blocked attempted XPs, and I referenced it. The safety and the non-call on JT Sanders combined, with a much better team going against the best, were worse. The worst ever. Only thing that can rival it was CU’s 5th down, which the Big 8 got roasted for. 

I’m pretty sure when the Big XII was formed, it was the best football conference through 2005, by far, and combined that with officiating crews from the worst officiating conferences. 

A big part of the issue is that these refs are being asked to call things that are too hard to judge with the naked eye.  Targeting is the prime example.  And I get that the replay fucks it up.  But you can’t get that right real time half the time.  Same with that bullshit low block call.  These refs are just reacting to what seems to be happening but not what is actually happening because they can’t tell the difference in real time.  Fuck it.  Review everything and let every play be referreed by crowdsourcing with viewer apps.  Not sure what the solution is other than start firing guy.  But the new guys will suck too in the same situation.  

Well shit, now the PAC10 refs are going to take this a challenge to keep their place at the top of the crappy officiating heap. I don’t know how much better B1G officials are, but thank God we’re getting away from those ass-clown zebras.

Yeah there is a definite stench of game fixing going on, at least the PAC refs are just stupid… these Big12 refs have some action going on somewhere

This game feels like should be ISU 17-6 or somewhere around there.....

There is so much money in the SEC and Big 10 that those conferences should pay them in line with the NFL and train/grade them accordingly.  They should hire someone to evaluate every single official in NCAA and hire the best.  

Meaningless flag with time running out to even out the "stats"

11 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

A big part of the issue is that these refs are being asked to call things that are too hard to judge with the naked eye.  Targeting is the prime example.  And I get that the replay fucks it up.  But you can’t get that right real time half the time.  Same with that bullshit low block call.  These refs are just reacting to what seems to be happening but not what is actually happening because they can’t tell the difference in real time.  Fuck it.  Review everything and let every play be referreed by crowdsourcing with viewer apps.  Not sure what the solution is other than start firing guy.  But the new guys will suck too in the same situation.  

the problem is we are only interested in saving lives and protecting against any possible injury.   therefore you have rule after rule after rule.  then those rules are applied selectively by ref crews because there are so many plays that could be called penalties that they decide to not call some because they know it would just be a flag fest.

So we aren’t the only ones who get horsefucked by the refs, great I guess.  
 

Who gets it worse when we play ISU?

8 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

the problem is we are only interested in saving lives and protecting against any possible injury.   therefore you have rule after rule after rule.  then those rules are applied selectively by ref crews because there are so many plays that could be called penalties that they decide to not call some because they know it would just be a flag fest.

Yeah hence the “rules of emphasis” they have every year.  If it could be called consistently and reasonably they wouldn’t need that.  

What just happened?  Was that Baylor targeting on that fumble/int?

Is this pro wrestling?

these new progressive player safety rules killed college football.  most people don't see it yet. RIP college football.  it was nice knowing ya.

 

Iowa state is getting proper fucked

Non-call on offensive pass interference...  Baylor 1st down.

This is ridiculous...

 

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