October 23, 20223 yr How do you consider that hold “wisely declined” when their kicker hit a 46 yard FG? Take the hold, stop them, and it’s a 56 yard FG in the wind pussy move to give them 3 there. No wonder you think it was “wise.”You are familiar with the Texas defense, correct? If you think it was smart to put them out there for another third and long, not only counting on a stop but not giving 10+ yards right back, then I don’t know what to tell you. Do you just ignore reality and spout drivel about being a pussy in other arenas of life? Or is this weird little obsession you quote me with all the the time just confined to here?
October 23, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, closetohumping said: I knew we were in for a bad time with officiating after we announced we were leaving but still had to play a couple years in the conference. I didn’t know it would be this egregious though.
October 23, 20223 yr 12 hours ago, gmr548 said: The refs weren’t playing QB or in the secondary. They didn’t have the ball with a chance to win/tie and fail to get it done. The refs literally called a phantom hold when we had the ball with a chance to win/tie, which contributed to our failure to get it done by negating a 1st down and making it 3rd and 22 Youre bad at this. You should quit.
October 23, 20223 yr When it's so blatant, it reeks of conspiracy. Why even play the closely matched conf games if the zebras are going to award so many first downs on phantom PI calls against us. Each of our losses had zebras shamelessly help out our opponent.
October 23, 20223 yr They don’t even try to hide the bias. 14 Texas penalties is not the giveaway but 0 for OSU. You can’t tell me the didn’t commit at least 4. I understand how it’s happening because if you’re only looking at the Texas players it’s hard to see what the hell the other team may be doing. People see what they want to see.
October 23, 20223 yr The refs literally called a phantom hold when we had the ball with a chance to win/tie, which contributed to our failure to get it done by negating a 1st down and making it 3rd and 22 Youre bad at this. You should quit. lol did you really just go seek out my posts just to neg them? Your obsession is weird. Really man, seek help, get laid, etc. I hope whatever you’re going through gets better, I do l really do, but I’m not going to entertain this.Going to take your advice and quit engaging. Never put anyone on ignore but there’s a first time for everything, I guess.
October 23, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, closetohumping said: Just wait for the first couple years of SEC hazing... lol. we in for a long 4-5 years...
October 23, 20223 yr 55 minutes ago, Auto Driller said: I knew we were in for a bad time with officiating after we announced we were leaving but still had to play a couple years in the conference. I didn’t know it would be this egregious though. You must have not been paying attention.
October 23, 20223 yr Popular Post 8 minutes ago, ChickenNuggets said: Just wait for the first couple years of SEC hazing... lol. we in for a long 4-5 years... I'll bet a thousand bucks that we never see a 14-0 penalty game in our first 5 years in the SEC in conference games.
October 23, 20223 yr I remember having the thought before the season to not get too upset this year because if a game is close the calls will go against us. Part of the reason last week against Iowa st was so surprising on the fumble to end the game. Regardless, the holding call on Jones that wiped out a 50 yard run or whatever was insulting. Get ready for the Tcu game if they’re still undefeated. No way the big 12 loses their potential playoff team
October 23, 20223 yr I'd like to know how many 14+ to 0 penalty games there have been in Big 12 history. Or even how many 14+ penalty differential games there have been. Seems like a 1 in 1000 type thing.
October 23, 20223 yr I think my favorite call was the PI that was so uncatchable that you never even saw the ball on the replay because it landed in the stands. Presumably, it may have flown out of the rinky dink piece of shit stadium
October 23, 20223 yr I'd like to know how many 14+ to 0 penalty games there have been in Big 12 history. Or even how many 14+ penalty differential games there have been. Seems like a 1 in 1000 type thing.It’s never happened in the history of college football. Until yesterday…
October 23, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Dennis Taylor said: I think my favorite call was the PI that was so uncatchable that you never even saw the ball on the replay because it landed in the stands. Presumably, it may have flown out of the rinky dink piece of shit stadium I prefer the one where the DB was in position to make an interception and the WR grabbed ahold of him and pulled him down, and the DB (Texas) was flagged for PI.
October 23, 20223 yr 25 minutes ago, nnm said: When they are allowed to hold on every down, pull down DBs, and the other team keeps getting phantom calls against it, it is easy to rack up points and yards.
October 23, 20223 yr 50 minutes ago, nnm said: Do you think 119 yards in penalties made any difference?
October 23, 20223 yr 33 minutes ago, Nivek said: I prefer the one where the DB was in position to make an interception and the WR grabbed ahold of him and pulled him down, and the DB (Texas) was flagged for PI.
October 23, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Fastbreak said: It’s never happened in the history of college football. Until yesterday… Is this true?
October 23, 20223 yr A OU buddy said that not a single hold has been called on their opponents in conference play
October 23, 20223 yr So basically the next couple of seasons are f'ed too, since this really is a thing with the refs.
October 23, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said: leave now That’s what I’m saying. See you crooks in court over whatever exit fee we pay.
October 23, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said: leave now Yep. Play an Indy schedule if we have to next year. See the Big12 clowns in court.
October 23, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Js1 said: I haven’t totally given up on Sark (I’m getting there), but I had to chuckle: “The Longhorns and Trojans now share much more than their status of being underachieving blue bloods who have been duped into hiring Steve Sarkisian as head coach….”
October 23, 20223 yr If Texas and OU really stay in Big 12 one more year that’s insane. Loan OU the $ and GTFO of this fucking conference. Can’t even imagine what next season looks like on the fuckery scale.
October 23, 20223 yr Here's what I don't get: what is the downside of publicly calling this behavior out? Phil Jackson would always get in front of a microphone when he was coaching the Bulls and talk about the foul discrepancy and magically, the next game it would even up. We're already getting blasted in the media for sucking, so it's not like being silent and taking the high road is about avoiding any of that. Sark or more likely CDC should show up to a presser with stats like above and just rationally show the difference in calls, and not just procedural false starts, even if you take those out we are way ahead on the judgement penalties as well. It doesn't matter if it's unconscious bias or a conscious screw job just calling it out would 1) illustrate to the Texas team and fans that they are aware of the issue and they care, and 2) put the conference on notice that we're not going to take it lying down either, fuckery will be called out.
October 23, 20223 yr Just now, Horn of Gabriel said: fuckery will be called out And then make it clear behind the scenes to the remaining Big12 schools that we hope they enjoy their last swings at us, because we will never put them on our schedule again.
October 23, 20223 yr https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/commentary-college-football-review-are-refs-needling-usc-texas-and-other-expansion-defectors/ar-AA13hr1f USC fan: "...I did not rip the officiating in my column from Utah because I did not allow myself to be fully convinced that a Pac-12 crew was taking every opportunity to punish USC for leaving for the Big Ten and propping up one of the best remaining Pac-12 programs that was playing a must-win game at home. No, I could not make that premise the focus of my column because it simply had to be wrong. Pac-12 refs are just bad, right? Their ineptitude does not discriminate. But then I saw Texas 14, Oklahoma State 0. And I had to wonder: Are Pac-12 and Big 12 officials making it extra hard on their departed? Texas, future Southeastern Conference member, is in its second season of its Big 12 farewell tour. USC, future Big Ten member, is in its first season of two saying goodbye to the Pac-12...."
October 23, 20223 yr I’ve said it before but it’s worth repeating. Texas has zero chance of ever getting the benefit of the doubt in regards to the officiating. The best we can hope for is an evenly called game. The Big 12 gets it’s refs from roughly the same territory that the conference teams reside in. In that territory college sports fans either love or hate Texas, there is a very small middle ground. Understandably you can’t have Texas fans umpiring Texas games which means we are stuck with a small group of officials who are indifferent to Texas and a large group of officials who hate Texas. Most of these guys would laugh at Texas getting fucked over time and again. Most of these guys blame Texas for everything that is wrong with the shitty school they root for.
October 23, 20223 yr Thats why I gave up on sports except Longhorns. The amount of times a ref can dictate a game is criminal. I was a kid when I first recognized my first rigging of a game when it was Ohio St vs Miami. Around the 2000s. I forgot what game but the Miami DB made a clean break up on a pass to seal the game but the refs called P8 and Ohio St went on to win the game. Its corrupt in a way where the league cannot do anything unkess they hold the officiating accountable which will never happen. It is why NFL doesnt have state of the art cameras so the outcome can be coontrolled.
October 23, 20223 yr I was curious. P5 games yesterday average penalties per team was 6.4. Most penalties was Texas with 14. Second was Tennessee in their rout of UT-Martin with 13. Next was 11. Fewest was Oklahoma St. with 0. Next were Cal and Missouri with 2. Largest gap was 14 Texas-OSU. Next largest was UTK-UTM at 8 (13 to 5) and BC-WF at 8 (11-3). In the other 20 games, 16 games the gap in penalties was 0 to 4. 2 it was 5. 2 it was 7.
October 23, 20223 yr I said this against OSU last year in Stillwater. OU got jobbed and I expected it and wasn’t even upset. Was more pissed at LR and that was before he left. Thankfully it’s all here forever on the internets. Anyone who thinks there’s not, at the very least, some bias is a dope.
October 23, 20223 yr 25 minutes ago, Cairn Horn88 said: So, Texas has to play 110% just to stay even. But what if 100% is all we have?
October 23, 20223 yr 54 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said: Here's what I don't get: what is the downside of publicly calling this behavior out? Phil Jackson would always get in front of a microphone when he was coaching the Bulls and talk about the foul discrepancy and magically, the next game it would even up. We're already getting blasted in the media for sucking, so it's not like being silent and taking the high road is about avoiding any of that. Sark or more likely CDC should show up to a presser with stats like above and just rationally show the difference in calls, and not just procedural false starts, even if you take those out we are way ahead on the judgement penalties as well. It doesn't matter if it's unconscious bias or a conscious screw job just calling it out would 1) illustrate to the Texas team and fans that they are aware of the issue and they care, and 2) put the conference on notice that we're not going to take it lying down either, fuckery will be called out. GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY THAT’S JOEY CRAWFORD'S MUSIC!
October 23, 20223 yr It would never happen but I’d straight up go independent for two years and pay whatever money. Idc if we play Mount Vernon Virginia Community College, fuck the Big 12. Don’t schedule any of these fucks in any sport moving forward
October 23, 20223 yr Would be cool if Vegas announced a 4 point adjustment to all future conference game spreads going against OU USC UCLA and Texas due to internal officiating biases they have found.
October 23, 20223 yr 56 minutes ago, UTGrad98 said: Would be cool if Vegas announced a 4 point adjustment to all future conference game spreads going against OU USC UCLA and Texas due to internal officiating biases they have found. um, they will flag the team for PI during warm-ups then, just to adjust to the line.
October 23, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, ChiTownDoc said: I said this against OSU last year in Stillwater. OU got jobbed and I expected it and wasn’t even upset. Was more pissed at LR and that was before he left. Thankfully it’s all here forever on the internets. Anyone who thinks there’s not, at the very least, some bias is a dope. For a dirty Sooner bastard, you’re not a half bad dude. Edited October 23, 20223 yr by lilMAC25
October 24, 20223 yr 10 hours ago, Js1 said: Quote Referees are people first, and most people who love the game enough to become college football refs were fans, too, before they decided to don the loathsome black and white stripes. They can try to eliminate their past leanings all they want, but that’s hard to do — especially when certain privileged schools’ decisions are negatively affecting all those left behind. I've said this shit for years when people point to the fact that the Longhorns and Dallas Cowboys always seem to lead the league in penalties. It doesn't matter how neutral you try to be, you will always have a bias one way or another. That's called being human. We will never get any subjective calls as long as we are in this conference.
October 24, 20223 yr Since 2015 Texas is averaging 10.3 penalties per game to 5.5 penalties per game for OSU.
October 24, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Nivek said: Since 2015 Texas is averaging 10.3 penalties per game to 5.5 penalties per game for OSU. There’s only one difference between the programs in the span….competent officiating. Nothing else can explain that discrepancy at all.
October 24, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, Assman said: We will never get any subjective calls as long as we are in this conference. Who says this will end when we are gone from the B12? Sounds like aggy that read 99% of traffic accidents a driver is involved with happen within a 5 mile radius of the driver’s home. So he moved.
October 24, 20223 yr 29 minutes ago, deadshank said: Who says this will end when we are gone from the B12? Sounds like aggy that read 99% of traffic accidents a driver is involved with happen within a 5 mile radius of the driver’s home. So he moved. It can't get worse
October 24, 20223 yr 23 hours ago, ChickenNuggets said: Just wait for the first couple years of SEC hazing... lol. we in for a long 4-5 years... They actually have professionals call the games over there.
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