October 16, 20205 yr https://www.cbsnews.com/news/robert-brockman-tax-fraud-2-billion-doj/ If true, it would seem to be an expensive fine to avoid prison. If you were in your 20s or 30s in Houston during the 90s, you probably know someone that worked for this guy at UCS.
October 16, 20205 yr Author And with Vista Equity in Austin, I'm sure more than a handful of people here know someone associated with them.
October 16, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said: Dumb. Don’t understand doing that. Not worth it. More hubris than stupidity
October 16, 20205 yr 14 minutes ago, Doc Reeves said: More hubris than stupidity Once you have a few hundred million, it’s really, really dumb to do financial crimes that can put you in prison. I mean it’s always dumb. But once you have eff you money, don’t do anything in the gray area.
October 16, 20205 yr Author 3 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said: Once you have a few hundred million, it’s really, really dumb to do financial crimes that can put you in prison. I mean it’s always dumb. But once you have eff you money, don’t do anything in the gray area. Don't say this often, but I agree with Sack. When you get to be that rich, you have the freedom to pretty much do whatever you want in this world. The one entity that can take that away from you is the govt. Pay your taxes, and you will be left alone. It's obviously fine to work to avoid taxes but briefly skimming the indictment, he knowingly hid income from the govt. Allegedly. Really bad sign when the Vista Equity CEO, Robert Smith, just paid a $138m fine and presumably testified against Brockman. Robert Smith made headlines last year when he paid off the student loan debt for graduating Morehouse College students.
October 16, 20205 yr 44 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said: Once you have a few hundred million, it’s really, really dumb to do financial crimes that can put you in prison. I mean it’s always dumb. But once you have eff you money, don’t do anything in the gray area. That’s certainly what one should do. thats definitely not always the case.
October 16, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/robert-brockman-tax-fraud-2-billion-doj/ If true, it would seem to be an expensive fine to avoid prison. If you were in your 20s or 30s in Houston during the 90s, you probably know someone that worked for this guy at UCS. My wife ran a support desk in that same market as UCS and hired a ton of people from them after they finished their indentured service. Heard lots of stories of stuff from there that would make Lumbergh seems like a great boss.
October 17, 20205 yr 7 hours ago, Johnny Sack said: I mean it’s always dumb. But once you have eff you money, don’t do anything in the gray area. Mo money, mo problems /counterpoint
October 19, 20205 yr Don't say this often, but I agree with Sack. When you get to be that rich, you have the freedom to pretty much do whatever you want in this world. The one entity that can take that away from you is the govt. Pay your taxes, and you will be left alone. It's obviously fine to work to avoid taxes but briefly skimming the indictment, he knowingly hid income from the govt. Allegedly. Really bad sign when the Vista Equity CEO, Robert Smith, just paid a $138m fine and presumably testified against Brockman. Robert Smith made headlines last year when he paid off the student loan debt for graduating Morehouse College students.So hedge fund CEO pays a $138mm fine and rolls over on one of his biggest clients? [emoji15] What kind of prison did they threaten him with - French Guiana?
October 19, 20205 yr Don't say this often, but I agree with Sack. When you get to be that rich, you have the freedom to pretty much do whatever you want in this world. The one entity that can take that away from you is the govt. Pay your taxes, and you will be left alone. It's obviously fine to work to avoid taxes but briefly skimming the indictment, he knowingly hid income from the govt. Allegedly. Really bad sign when the Vista Equity CEO, Robert Smith, just paid a $138m fine and presumably testified against Brockman. Robert Smith made headlines last year when he paid off the student loan debt for graduating Morehouse College students.So hedge fund CEO pays a $138mm fine and rolls over on one of his biggest clients? [emoji15] What kind of prison did they threaten him with - French Guiana?
October 19, 20205 yr Author 1 hour ago, TxTower said: So hedge fund CEO pays a $138mm fine and rolls over on one of his biggest clients? What kind of prison did they threaten him with - French Guiana? Smith is married to a Playmate of the Year from Port Lavaca. Maybe he didn't want to be away from her for too long.
October 19, 20205 yr On 10/16/2020 at 5:54 PM, Doc Reeves said: That’s certainly what one should do. thats definitely not always the case. You don't get that much money without stealing it
October 19, 20205 yr White collar criminals do not operate like Stringer Bell and Avon Barksdale. They’re usually very sloppy and dumb b/c they’ve never been held accountable. Edited October 19, 20205 yr by Hugo Stiglitz
October 19, 20205 yr 46 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: Smith is married to a Playmate of the Year from Port Lavaca. Maybe he didn't want to be away from her for too long.
October 19, 20205 yr 10 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said: White collar criminals do not operate like Stringer Bell and Avon Barksdale. They’re usually very sloppy and dumb b/c they’ve never been held accountable. A man's gotta have a code.
October 19, 20205 yr On 10/16/2020 at 4:01 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/robert-brockman-tax-fraud-2-billion-doj/ If true, it would seem to be an expensive fine to avoid prison. If you were in your 20s or 30s in Houston during the 90s, you probably know someone that worked for this guy at UCS.
October 19, 20205 yr 11 hours ago, Michael Knight said: You don't get that much money without stealing it "Behind every great fortune lies a great crime"
October 19, 20205 yr 12 hours ago, TxTower said: So hedge fund CEO pays a $138mm fine and rolls over on one of his biggest clients? What kind of prison did they threaten him with - French Guiana? Robert Smith is the not the CEO of a hedge fund. On business threads, we gotta stop being lazy and call any private sector enterprise, "The Multinational Corporations", and financial services institution, "The Big Banks", and anybody in the VC/PE space, "Hedge Fund Managers" It makes us sound like Hugo. This explains so much about how quickly Smith's tax woes went away though. Pretty amazing how quickly a billionare can take care of a serious tax issue, provided he's an actual billionaire and not a total fraud.
October 21, 20205 yr My wife ran a support desk in that same market as UCS and hired a ton of people from them after they finished their indentured service. Heard lots of stories of stuff from there that would make Lumbergh seems like a great boss.I remember hearing horror stories about ucs. They preyed on fresh college grads I remember.
April 14, 20214 yr Bob's got a June competency hearing. I'm gonna make popcorn. I worked for him for more than 15 years; salary didn't suck, exactly, though the health insurance sure did. Anyway, having done software QA for one of the most dishonest men ever to have lived is really an eye-opener. The things we did for internal security so not only did no data ever get out, but no information about how we kept data from getting out ever got out, were measures that took paranoia to an eleven. We weren't allowed to have artwork on the walls, ostensibly because it made us behave in a more professional manner. I used to think it was because he was just a dick, but I'm now realizing he didn't want any surface that could conceal any sort of wires or cameras. Seriously. Dude isn't just a selfish, evil git, he's also paranoid to a degree that has to be seen to be believed.
April 14, 20214 yr On 10/21/2020 at 6:19 PM, Updawg said: I remember hearing horror stories about ucs. They preyed on fresh college grads I remember. What is UCS? I cannot figure out what that acronym means.
April 14, 20214 yr What is UCS? I cannot figure out what that acronym means.Universal Computer Systems
April 14, 20214 yr Author If you're declared incompetent to stand trial, I assume the IRS can still go after the money. And if you want to be declared incompetent, is that difficult to fake? Dr.: Mr. Brockman - remember these words. Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV. Dr: Repeat the words back. Brockman: Repeat what back. Can I legally spy on my employees?
April 15, 20214 yr Hell, I report small cash transactions. I know enough lawyers, I don't need to meet new ones.
April 15, 20214 yr 23 hours ago, pantone159 said: What is UCS? I cannot figure out what that acronym means. Universal Computer Systems, aka Dealer Computer Services, which bought Reynolds & Reynolds via Vista Equity Partners (a slush fund Bob trumped up) and claimed it was a merger. His paper tiger figurehead at Vista sold him out and turned state's evidence, which is how we ended up where we are. Anyway, the sad irony is, the product Bob was pushing at UCS really was the superior product in the market at the time (dealership software is an unusual vertical market, but I won't bore you with details), but his inherent crookedness kept it from really taking off, as the big players had zero interest in having their data stored by a crook. So, the chump version of his Ferrari of a software platform is now the industry standard. He won't be remembered for any of his actual contributions, because his fundamental character flaws are all anyone will think of when they think of him at all.
April 15, 20214 yr 21 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: If you're declared incompetent to stand trial, I assume the IRS can still go after the money. And if you want to be declared incompetent, is that difficult to fake? Dr.: Mr. Brockman - remember these words. Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV. Dr: Repeat the words back. Brockman: Repeat what back. Can I legally spy on my employees? Yes, the IRS can always go for the money. That's in the nature of a civil action. Some tax underpayments/avoidance are stupidity, or good-faith mistakes relying on the good-faith advice. Those stay civil actions. When there's evidence that the tax avoidance was intentional and fraudulent, that's when it becomes a criminal case.
April 15, 20214 yr 21 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: Brockman: Repeat what back. Can I legally spy on my employees? IRS: So long as it's not just the Jewish ones, Bob. Bob: Fuck.
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