October 30, 20205 yr 5 hours ago, Guadaloopy said: Damn... Hinch may wander in the desert for quite a while if they are willing to bring in that fossil. He’s going to Detroit
October 30, 20205 yr Hinch was always going to be going to the Tigers. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain. A team like the White Sox would have a shit ton to lose bringing in that raisin balls.
October 30, 20205 yr The more I think about it, the more I'm coming around to the idea of letting both Brantley and Springer go. They way it appears free agency is going to go, particularly for mid level guys, this could be be a good opportunity to get younger and build some depth in a hurry. With the current state of the farm system, it might be the only way. to do so.
October 30, 20205 yr I think they need to keep Brantley. Losing his consistency along with Springer in the same offseason would be a huge blow to the lineup. Edited October 30, 20205 yr by kevwun
October 30, 20205 yr I think Brantley has zero intentions of staying here. He knows he would only get a 1 yr deal here. His house is already on the market. He is ready to bounce.
October 30, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Scraps said: I think Brantley has zero intentions of staying here. He knows he would only get a 1 yr deal here. His house is already on the market. He is ready to bounce. Yeah... and with the scandal blowing up halfway through his time here, it isn’t what he signed up for. I would love it if he came back, but I think there will be better options available to him if the money is equal. We know that the Astros won’t pay a premium to overcome that.
October 30, 20205 yr Per the Astros website, Springer, Brantley, Peacock, and Reddick have all opted for free agency. They are no longer listed on the 40-man roster, though Osuna still is.
October 30, 20205 yr Think about an outfield next season of Chas McCormick, Miles Straw and Kyle Tucker. Let that sink in for a minute.
October 30, 20205 yr 25 minutes ago, CycleTex87 said: Per the Astros website, Springer, Brantley, Peacock, and Reddick have all opted for free agency. They are no longer listed on the 40-man roster, though Osuna still is. Did any of them have player options in their contracts? I thought all of their contracts were over and thus they became FA after the World Series ended. Regardless, MLB is now in the window for teams and players to exercise options. Nov 2 (Monday) is the deadline for QOs to be extended. QO is $18.9 M this year - so Springer gets one for certain. Question is whether Uncle Mike gets one. I'd offer it, as the downside is that you get him for one year at $18.9 M, which is a $2.9 M bump from this year. That might be a slight overpayment, but it sets 2/3 of the OF for 2021, and gets you to the point where the real labor shit storm begins. Edited October 30, 20205 yr by Jacob McCandles
October 30, 20205 yr 30 minutes ago, CycleTex87 said: Think about an outfield next season of Chas McCormick, Miles Straw and Kyle Tucker. Let that sink in for a minute. While I get where you’re coming from, there would be much much much bigger issues if that is the regular outfield next year.
October 30, 20205 yr 40 minutes ago, CycleTex87 said: Think about an outfield next season of Chas McCormick, Miles Straw and Kyle Tucker. Let that sink in for a minute. Chas, Miles, and Kyle. Those are some intimidating first names there. What the hell were Dad's doing in the mid to late 90s to allow their namesakes to have these monikers. Edited October 30, 20205 yr by Texas St. Armadillos
October 30, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, Texas St. Armadillos said: Chas, Miles, and Kyle. Those are some intimidating first names there. What the hell were Dad's doing in the mid to late 90s to allow their namesakes to have these monikers. negged
October 30, 20205 yr 30 minutes ago, Jacob McCandles said: Did any of them have player options in their contracts? I thought all of their contracts were over and thus they became FA after the World Series ended. Regardless, MLB is now in the window for teams and players to exercise options. Nov 2 (Monday) is the deadline for QOs to be extended. QO is $18.9 M this year - so Springer gets one for certain. Question is whether Uncle Mike gets one. I'd offer it, as the downside is that you get him for one year at $18.9 M, which is a $2.9 M bump from this year. That might be a slight overpayment, but it sets 2/3 of the OF for 2021, and gets you to the point where the real labor shit storm begins. I assume if the player is not under contract, he's not listed on the team's website. Not a baseball lawyer. I guess I didn't realize that Peacock was a FA this year.
October 30, 20205 yr ^that's why. They will be off there soon enough. Edited October 30, 20205 yr by Scraps
October 31, 20205 yr We're really gonna see what Crick is made of this offseason.....high ceiling, low floor vibes Anyone know if Craine is willing to spend like other top teams? Genuine question.
October 31, 20205 yr 23 minutes ago, Houston20 said: Anyone know if Craine is willing to spend like other top teams? Genuine question. Paid Verlander $33M per, so yeah, he’ll spend.
October 31, 20205 yr 20 hours ago, CycleTex87 said: Think about an outfield next season of Chas McCormick, Miles Straw and Kyle Tucker. Let that sink in for a minute. show me a loss!
October 31, 20205 yr Whoa lots of layoffs this week Goldstein included Edited October 31, 20205 yr by UTexasFight
October 31, 20205 yr We were 5th in payroll this year. Houston isn't a small market, no matter what Uncle Drayton told you.
October 31, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, WBT said: We were 5th in payroll this year. Houston isn't a small market, no matter what Uncle Drayton told you. We are not the Dodgers or Yankees when it comes to payroll. The Astros will not perpetually be in top 20% of payroll league wide. We’ll spend in certain situations and conserve in others
October 31, 20205 yr 23 minutes ago, TonyTexas said: We are not the Dodgers or Yankees when it comes to payroll. The Astros will not perpetually be in top 20% of payroll league wide. We’ll spend in certain situations and conserve in others The Astros were 6th in 2019 revenue. Why shouldn't they be able to consistently spend at a Cubs or Giants level? The Yankees and Dodgers also stay under the luxury tax usually even though they dont really need to. The Astros are capable of staying right up to that level if they keep revenue up. Unlike the other top revenue clubs, the Astros do need to win to keep revenue up, but that's why you spend money in the first place. They arent the Rays who can't break out of the revenue bottom half even with playoff caliber teams.
October 31, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said: The Astros were 6th in 2019 revenue. Why shouldn't they be able to consistently spend at a Cubs or Giants level? The Yankees and Dodgers also stay under the luxury tax usually even though they dont really need to. The Astros are capable of staying right up to that level if they keep revenue up. Unlike the other top revenue clubs, the Astros do need to win to keep revenue up, but that's why you spend money in the first place. They arent the Rays who can't break out of the revenue bottom half even with playoff caliber teams. 6th in revenue coming off 2 WS appearances and an ALCS appearance - most importantly, pre scandal. It will be tough to maintain that. I think Crane will be smart with his money, and fans will obviously call him cheap for it but I’d rather that than what the Angels have done. He will spend when it makes sense, especially if a player is willing to come here (which I think will be a difficult recruiting task for a few years although I know some disagree with that).
October 31, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, htown85 said: 6th in revenue coming off 2 WS appearances and an ALCS appearance - most importantly, pre scandal. It will be tough to maintain that. I think Crane will be smart with his money, and fans will obviously call him cheap for it but I’d rather that than what the Angels have done. He will spend when it makes sense, especially if a player is willing to come here (which I think will be a difficult recruiting task for a few years although I know some disagree with that). Revenue is mostly based on the local fanbase. The scandal means almost nothing at all to Astros fans and where they spend their dollars. It doesn't matter what other fanbases think. They were never spending their money on Astros games or watching games in the Astros TV market. If the Astros maintain a playoff caliber team, they will maintain revenue. This is not true of small market teams. Houston is not small market or even mid market at this point. But I do agree that the Angels spending habits handicap them even with a larger market than Houston. It isnt the way to go.
November 1, 20205 yr Brantley doesn’t get a Q.O. I think it’s further indication on how weak the free agent market is going to be.
November 1, 20205 yr I also think Brantley’s days as an outfielder are coming to an end. And Alvarez is the DH.
November 2, 20205 yr A bit surprised that no QO was offered to Brantley. For this team, with Correa and Greinke and McCullers only (guaranteed to be) around for one more year, and with the strong likelihood of losing Springer now, a 1-year deal for Brantley (even at that amount) would seem to make some sense. And of course, if he declines, the draft pick compensation takes on additional importance given the loss of picks. But yeah, if they don't want him playing in the OF, I get it...Alvarez is the DH.
November 2, 20205 yr I know at this point it is just throw shit at a wall and see what sticks, but MLB Trade Rumors site is predicting Jackie Bradley Jr and Brad Hand to sign with Stros out of the top 50 free agents. They have Springer to the White Sox and Brantley to the Braves https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/11/mlb-free-agent-predictions-2021.html Edited November 2, 20205 yr by Scraps
November 2, 20205 yr 17 hours ago, Hank Chinaski said: A bit surprised that no QO was offered to Brantley. For this team, with Correa and Greinke and McCullers only (guaranteed to be) around for one more year, and with the strong likelihood of losing Springer now, a 1-year deal for Brantley (even at that amount) would seem to make some sense. And of course, if he declines, the draft pick compensation takes on additional importance given the loss of picks. But yeah, if they don't want him playing in the OF, I get it...Alvarez is the DH. I think part of it is them wanting a good, reliable fielder in LF and part of it is the $/WAR calculus has gone from $8-11M/WAR to maybe $3-5M/WAR.
November 2, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, Scraps said: I know at this point it is just throw shit at a wall and see what sticks, but MLB Trade Rumors site is predicting Jackie Bradley Jr and Brad Hand to sign with Stros out of the top 50 free agents. They have Springer to the White Sox and Brantley to the Braves https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/11/mlb-free-agent-predictions-2021.html A combined $15M for two needed replacements. A veteran bullpen arm and a CF. Less than the QO, which is likely why Brantley wasn't offered. They can probably also sign another OF and still come under the QO. The biggest issue I see is there is really no true leadoff hitter anymore, though I guess you could go with Bregman because his OBP will always be near .400, if not above. Bregman Tucker Altuve Correa Alvarez Gurriel Bradley RF Maldonado Edited November 2, 20205 yr by HtownHorn
November 3, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, UTexasFight said: And “RF” would still be more productive than Reddick over a 162 game campaign. RF wouldn't pop up and throw his bat down.
November 3, 20205 yr 25 minutes ago, David Dennison said: RF wouldn't pop up and throw his bat down. Right 2020: player A: -0.7 WAR player B: 0.0 WAR
November 3, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, Mack Tripper said: I’d be fine with Bradley in CF, Tucker LF, and RF in RF instead of Reddick. Yes but what if RF was Puig.
November 4, 20205 yr I know it isn't the determining factor, but funny to see the highest fielding % team in baseball get 0 gold gloves
November 4, 20205 yr 8 hours ago, Scraps said: I know it isn't the determining factor, but funny to see the highest fielding % team in baseball get 0 gold gloves synergy is OK, too.
November 4, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, WBT said: Correa was robbed. Because, you know I have enjoyed pissed off Correa. 2021 shall be fun...
November 4, 20205 yr Question for those of you who understand this stuff more than I do. Assuming that this is even possible, would it make sense to go to Verlander and ask him to take a pay cut since he won't be pitching next year and use that money to get a couple of players. Or would be cutting him be an option to have more money for Correa or anyone else that we can get. Thanks.
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