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45 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

i thought Congress did away with the time change shenanigans with 438-0 vote.  Explain.

I did too, and I was disappointed because I thought the permanent time was the spring-forward one. I would have preferred the fall-back one. 

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11 minutes ago, Kennythetiger said:

I did too, and I was disappointed because I thought the permanent time was the spring-forward one. I would have preferred the fall-back one. 

A few years ago, the Senate approved a permanent move to DST by voice vote, but it never moved in the House.  The bill was sponsored by the FL delegation, which as the eastern most southern state and a state that lives and dies off beach tourism, benefits the most from permanent DST.  The problem is large swaths of the nation wouldn't see sunrises until well after 8 and sometimes 9 in the morning.   WHich is why virtually every scientist recommends Standard, not DST as the year around time.  While it's fun to have sunlight late in the evening, from a practical perspective as humans that evolved to wake with the sun and sleep with the night, we need more morning light, not less. It's why your dog is also so miserable: they have evolved to rise and sleep with us and it's very hard on them. 

Fun fact: in 2005, Congress extended DST by 4 weeks.  For the last two ish decades it's started 3 weeks earlier in the spring and a week later in the fall.  That's part of the reason it feels so damn severe for most of us: The diurnal shock is much more aggressive than it used to be, when it was mostly about getting an extra hour at the bar in the fall. 

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3 hours ago, Celery Man said:

The morning of the forgotten coffee maker clock

LOL - I remember having to change about 15 clocks when time change hit, and then cell phones and the internet happened. And I am down to the microwave, the oven, and my wifes car. Everything else syncs up - the DVR, the computer, cell phones (which among other things replaced the alarm clock), we got rid of a couple of wall clocks, answering machines, etc.

I am team #daylight savings, don't mind getting up and driving to work in the dark (in the winter) but I hate leaving work in the dark. And the later it is light is okay with me - more time to play golf, mow my lawn, work in the garden, be at the beach, sitting on the deck grilling & drinking beer. And actually I am okay with changing times, as I've done it most of my life and seems like I've survived. 

Armybrat avoids all of these headaches by sticking with his preferred method of timekeeping, his trusty sundial.

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Three times already today, someone at work has mentioned they like DST because there's more hours of daylight. It's the same number of hours. Get the fuck up earlier. 

Idiots. 

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Yea, they need to get rid of this shit and go back to permanent standard time.  Ain't nobody who needs it to be sunlight out until 9-10 at night.  With Standard Time even in farther south states like Texas you still would have daylight until after 8pm in mid summer and that's plenty.  One of the stupider things we do....we don't create or save daylight, we just fuck with clocks, sleep cycles (not only with the change but with the sun being out too late) and make people grumpy and thrown off.  

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Fuck this shit and anyone who supports it.  If we ever move to permanent DST (because the idiots have won), I'll have to figure out the best place to live that's along the far eastern edge of a timezone.

Let's try permanent Standard Time. 

In the least, Spring forward should go back to the beginning of April so it doesn't feel like flying across 3-4 time zones.

11 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Working a project between NZ, Aus and Kenya. FML. Can we stop this shit already?

every zoom this morning with europe was fubar - the lost time/cost for multinationals is incalculable

the same thing will happen thist afternoon when apac comes online their tuesday morning - nothing will match up - every calendar with international and domestic video meetings has to be recalibrated manually with the net result of every meeting being cut in half, with the remaining half of that meeting time trying to repair other calendar items

it's insane

the english-speaking countries (UKUSA = +aus +can +nz) need to get together and align this shit

jump 15 minutes every week for 4 weeks (APRIL!) and the rest of the world will get in line

Yep, was planning for one call with Kenya and NZ came on. Don't all the farmers have GPS run equipment by now?

And I am in favor of sunlight after work. Pick one.

55 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

And I am in favor of sunlight after work. Pick one.

Yup I prefer DST but either way my vote is for sticking to one or the other and not ever changing again.

I don't really care if standard or dst (prefer standard but whatever), just stop with this change nonsense. I could barely get up this morning, could barely get the kids up, my kindergartner was a complete fucking nightmare, and I dropped them off at school in the dark. Fuck this shit. Make up your goddamned minds and stick with it for fucks sake. 

19 minutes ago, utee94 said:

Yup I prefer DST but either way my vote is for sticking to one or the other and not ever changing again.

#TeamDST

Although, I really don't get how 1 hour change twice a year fucks people's inner clocks up so much.  Maybe it's b/c I don't do the church thing but it's never affected my energy level or sleep habits.  In short, other than the Sunday morning it happens, it don't make a shit. 

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11 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

#TeamDST

Although, I really don't get how 1 hour change twice a year fucks people's inner clocks up so much.  Maybe it's b/c I don't do the church thing but it's never affected my energy level or sleep habits.  In short, other than the Sunday morning it happens, it don't make a shit. 

If you have or had kids and it wasn't an issue, you are very fortunate. Getting young kids to bed an hour earlier sucks because their body clocks are off, and getting them up an hour earlier raises the same problem. Not to mention it's pitch black outside and feels like the middle of the goddamned night. My own body clock is off and it sucks. If even 15% of the country is affected (I suspect its way higher), why not just change it? I see zero policy benefits of changing the clock twice a year. It made little sense when it was enacted, but zero sense now. Why do we need sunlight til 9:45 pm in july?

2 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Why do we need sunlight til 9:45 pm in july?

Golf

1 minute ago, 'stache said:

If you have or had kids and it wasn't an issue, you are very fortunate. Getting young kids to bed an hour earlier sucks because their body clocks are off, and getting them up an hour earlier raises the same problem. Not to mention it's pitch black outside and feels like the middle of the goddamned night. My own body clock is off and it sucks. If even 15% of the country is affected (I suspect its way higher), why not just change it? I see zero policy benefits of changing the clock twice a year. It made little sense when it was enacted, but zero sense now. Why do we need sunlight til 9:45 pm in july?

I never had kids but I was one once and I don't recall it affecting me then, either (and my folks used to drag my ass to church every Sunday).  I get up between 4:30 and 5:00 am every day, so it's always dark.  As a motorcycle rider I love having 3-4 hours of daylight after work.  There's nothing I despise more than working until dark.  It's depressing as fuck and sucks ass. 

7 minutes ago, 'stache said:

If you have or had kids and it wasn't an issue, you are very fortunate. Getting young kids to bed an hour earlier sucks because their body clocks are off, and getting them up an hour earlier raises the same problem. Not to mention it's pitch black outside and feels like the middle of the goddamned night. My own body clock is off and it sucks. If even 15% of the country is affected (I suspect its way higher), why not just change it? I see zero policy benefits of changing the clock twice a year. It made little sense when it was enacted, but zero sense now. Why do we need sunlight til 9:45 pm in july?

Strap them kids in, give them a little bit of vodka in a cherry coke. 

I used to talk mad shit about the dorks that complained at work about losing/gaining an hour. "Who gives a fuck?", I would ask the losers.  Well, I guess fun time's over for me. I felt shitty yesterday and again today, haven't slept well. I can't explain it. I have become that which I most despise. 

Team DST.  Hell, do it +2 hours and leave it there.  I’d like to leave work at 5 and get 18 holes in.  

We started transitioning the kids to the new time the day before, half an hour isn’t bad. I’m playing outside before dinner right now at near 6, love it.

33 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

Golf

goddamnit stop making sense

in '88 i played a round in inverness starting at midnight

5 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

We started transitioning the kids to the new time the day before, half an hour isn’t bad. I’m playing outside before dinner right now at near 6, love it.

this

when ever flying transoceanic i always do a crash program starting 3 days out to get up at 2am no matter which direction i'm flying

i reset the clocks last week and started abiding by them - set your phone and dont hit snooze

1 hour ago, Celery Man said:

I’m playing outside before dinner right now at near 6, love it.

It was light after six before they changed the clock. 

Id prefer Daylight Saving Time year round. I enjoy my pool at 8PM much more than 8AM.

During the dog days of summer, I'd rather have extra daylight in the morning before the blast furnace hits its full potential, but that's just me. 

7 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Armybrat avoids all of these headaches by sticking with his preferred method of timekeeping, his trusty sundial.

The  two hotels in last 6 days I stayed at were ready for Spring forward…i.e. they never fell back.

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7 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Armybrat avoids all of these headaches by sticking with his preferred method of timekeeping, his trusty sundial.

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4 minutes ago, rpspeed said:

Id prefer Daylight Saving Time year round. I enjoy my pool at 8PM much more than 8AM.

You don't have a pool light you can turn on?  

6 minutes ago, Deej said:

It was light after six before they changed the clock. 

Not here

Screw standard time. That is a bunch of bullshit. Going to work and then coming home in the dark SUCKS. 

22 minutes ago, Hate said:

Screw standard time. That is a bunch of bullshit. Going to work and then coming home in the dark SUCKS. 

You do understand that if you go with DST year round it isn't getting light mid November to early February until sometime close to or after 8am and that's in Texas.  If you lived up north add 30-60 minutes depending on your particular location regarding time zone lines.  

The days are already longer in the summer...much longer, tilt of the earth and all.  We don't need to augment an already long day.

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17 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

You don't have a pool light you can turn on?  

yes, it even has a check box on the app to account for DST but I have it set for dusk.

13 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

You do understand that if you go with DST year round it isn't getting light mid November to early February until sometime close to or after 8am and that's in Texas.  If you lived up north add 30-60 minutes depending on your particular location regarding time zone lines.  

The days are already longer in the summer...much longer, tilt of the earth and all.  We don't need to augment an already long day.

As posted up thread, we tried DST year round and it was a failure. 

I’m the only person in America who was looking forward to the time change. I spent the last week of February in Europe and I’m still not right. At least now when I wake up at 4:30 it’s 5:30.

5 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

I’m the only person in America who was looking forward to the time change. I spent the last week of February in Europe and I’m still not right. At least now when I wake up at 4:30 it’s 5:30.

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3 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Although, I really don't get how 1 hour change twice a year fucks people's inner clocks up so much. 

Most people are complete pussies.  It's one hour

You mean the pussies who can't handle it getting dark at 8:30 instead of 9:30 during the summer? You are correct.

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1 hour ago, Surly Bevo said:

You do understand that if you go with DST year round it isn't getting light mid November to early February until sometime close to or after 8am and that's in Texas.  If you lived up north add 30-60 minutes depending on your particular location regarding time zone lines.  

The days are already longer in the summer...much longer, tilt of the earth and all.  We don't need to augment an already long day.

This. 
 

we just need to start DST later in the spring. 
 

A lot of people do not realize how close to our monkey ancestors we are when it comes to daylight.  Anyone who has lived through a multi day power outage, and starts going to bed at dark knows what I mean. 
 

Humans are not physically or mentally equipped to handle rapid time zone changes.   And that’s functionally what we all just experienced.

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6 hours ago, 'stache said:

If you have or had kids and it wasn't an issue, you are very fortunate. Getting young kids to bed an hour earlier sucks because their body clocks are off, and getting them up an hour earlier raises the same problem.

preach GIF by Shalita Grant

11 hours ago, Bateshorn said:

Fun fact: in 2005, Congress extended DST by 4 weeks.  For the last two ish decades it's started 3 weeks earlier in the spring and a week later in the fall. 

Also what got us out of synch with Europe.

#teamstatusquo

I don’t like getting off work in December and it’s already dark at 5:30 pm. It’s depressing.

Of course if we kept permanent DST, it would be dark in the morning most of the winter. I would personally prefer that as the lesser of 2 evils, because the evening is more useful to be outdoors, and the short window of daylight before work seems wasted to me.

Maybe we should universally agree that typical 8-5 type jobs become 8-4 schedules during the Nov-March standard time period. That final hour of work can’t be more important than mental and physical health of employees.

2 hours ago, alincoln said:

Most people are complete pussies.  It's one hour

And it seems that they've all congregated on this thread.  Buncha fucking pussies pissing and moaning over one goddam hour of time change.  

I didn't make it to work today and might not tomorrow either. I hate this time of year.

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