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San Antonio school teacher ask students to list positives of slavery

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Charter school eh? One of those that you don’t need a real teaching certification to teach and make the parents pay for it??? This is ridiculous. Has the school commented and given any reason for the assignment?

Didn't some dumbass teacher in another state give the exact same assignment and cause a national kerfuffle several months ago?

Nah, it's just like where renting you pay property taxes, only its included in your rent. There taxes came out of their food and shelter. Not sure that counts as a positive.

They didn't have TV's so they weren't subjected to "Housewives of..." shows and anything Kardashian.

I mean, I suppose it could be an academic exercise in showing that there aren't any?

 

But that worksheet.  "A Balanced View"?  Really?

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I mean, I suppose it could be an academic exercise in showing that there aren't any?
 
But that worksheet.  "A Balanced View"?  Really?

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Sheesh.
3 hours ago, Shut up Lou Holtz said:

Also, the kid said rape twice 

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I mean, I suppose it could be an academic exercise in showing that there aren't any?
 
But that worksheet.  "A Balanced View"?  Really?

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At first I was thinking that free labor would actually be a positive.  But I guess the negative is you have to hire expensive men to constantly manage and keep them in line.

3 hours ago, Pancho Negro said:

I wonder what goes through the mind of an educator when they create such assignments.  

The Aggie War Hymn?

In America you'll get food to eat
Won't have to run through the jungle and scuff up your feet
You'll just sing about Jesus and drink wine all day
It's great to be an American
 
Ain't no lions or tigers ain't no mamba snake
Just the sweet watermelon and the buckwheat cake
Everybody is as happy as a man can be
Climb aboard little wog sail away with me
 
Sail away sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay
Sail away-sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay
 
In America every man is free
To take care of his home and his family
You'll be as happy as a monkey in a monkey tree
You're all gonna be an American
 
Sail away sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay
Sail away-sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay

To that end, I suppose you could argue that being in the US and receiving the full measure of US citizenship 150-200 years later beats living the tribal life in Ghana or the Ivory Coast. 

6 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

To that end, I suppose you could argue that being in the US and receiving the full measure of US citizenship 150-200 years later beats living the tribal life in Ghana or the Ivory Coast. 

If you’re going that route and they were slaves in Africa, was being a slave in the USA a better lifestyle than being an African slave?  Regardless, almost no doubt it was a huge benefit to their currently living descendants.  

I’m not opposed to critical thinking assignments requiring students to create arguments to defend indefensible positions.  Like being assigned as the attorney to defend Ted Bundy against the death penalty. 

5 hours ago, Pancho Negro said:

I wonder what goes through the mind of an educator when they create such assignments.  

 

The teacher likely pulled the assignment right out of the teachers version of that textbook without much thought.

 

 

Nope. An article I read this morning had a statement from the publisher that the assignment/worksheet is not one provided as part of their materials.

There were some positive benefits to the slave holders and the economy of the Southern States, after all.  Benefits to the slaves themselves?  Not hardly.  

There are no hungry lions in Alabama or Mississippi?

There were panthers. And the threat of being eaten by one was used by slave owners to discourage runaways. And that story/cautionary tale continued to influence behavior into the 1990s. I went on a deer hunt on the MS/La border in 1990 or so, and one of the camp hands was complaining about how his co-worker (a local black man) wouldn’t spend a night out on a bulldozer so they could finish a job first thing: “no way, there’s panther in the swamp.”

There hasn’t been a panther there in 100 years.

But the scary story told to slaves 150 years before was still being passed on.

There you go, CSB.
1 hour ago, Aqua Buddha said:

There were some positive benefits to the slave holders and the economy of the Southern States, after all.  Benefits to the slaves themselves?  Not hardly.  

Would you rather be a slave in Africa or Georgia?

And it was a benefit to their descendants. Being born black in the USA is much better than being born in Africa. 

6 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Would you rather be a slave in Africa or Georgia?

If only there were some other option.

31 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

And it was a benefit to their descendants. Being born black in the USA is much better than being born in Africa. 

Still not as good as being born the grandson of a millionaire white man in the USA.

36 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Would you rather be a slave in Africa or Georgia?

What's the difference?

34 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

And it was a benefit to their descendants. Being born black in the USA is much better than being born in Africa. 

I'm sure if you were working in a field from sun up, past sun down in humid as fuck Alabama picking cotton and getting your ass kicked when you so much as looked sideways that the thought that would constantly cross your mind is "gee isn't it going to be great in the next era when my lineage is born in to all of this, thanks massa I sure is lucky"

3 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

I'm sure if you were working in a field from sun up, past sun down in humid as fuck Alabama picking cotton and getting your ass kicked when you so much as looked sideways that the thought that would constantly cross your mind is "gee isn't it going to be great in the next era when my lineage is born in to all of this, thanks massa I sure is lucky"

You think there life in Africa was better?  Slaves were taken by conquest from warring tribes.  You think the conquering African tribal leaders treated the defeated better than southern plantation owners?  Or maybe you think they were better off being shipped to the Caribbean or Brazil?

It was lose - lose once they got captured by their opponent.

2 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

You think there life in Africa was better?  Slaves were taken by conquest from warring tribes.  You think the conquering African tribal leaders treated the defeated better than southern plantation owners?  Or maybe you think they were better off being shipped to the Caribbean or Brazil?

It was lose - lose once they got captured by their opponent.

Ungrateful pricks.

5 hours ago, SpiralOut said:

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thanks, roethlisberger

"The black is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred to be that way, because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs and he's bred to be the better athlete because this goes back all the way to the Civil War when during the slave trade … the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid."

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If you're a slave, are you safe from being drafted by the Cleveland Browns?

And it was a benefit to their descendants. Being born black in the USA is much better than being born in Africa. 
I'll bet you got an "A" in Social Studies when you were at Great Hearts Monte Vista North.
9 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:


Both sides! /Anastasis
 

I expect more from you.  Perhaps wrongly. 

that sheet does not say list the positive aspects of slavery, which would be easy to come up with a bunch. it says positive aspects of "Life of Slaves" which is very different and hard to come up with any. 

reading comprehension is very hard.

What a peculiar assignment.

1 hour ago, po elvis said:

that sheet does not say list the positive aspects of slavery, which would be easy to come up with a bunch. it says positive aspects of "Life of Slaves" which is very different and hard to come up with any. 

reading comprehension is very hard.

What are the positive aspects of slavery?

It depends on if you're the slave or the slaveholder.

why is this assignment upsetting?  i don't think the teacher's advocating for slavery...

5 hours ago, David Dennison said:

What are the positive aspects of slavery?

We’d have to ask the slaves who continued to work under the same masters once freed. Only, they’re all dead.

Edit. Almost forgot about Allison Mack’s cult members.

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8 hours ago, David Dennison said:

What are the positive aspects of slavery?

Stop Rocko from posting on Surly?

I think the teacher was just looking for some insight into the evolution of the market economy in the southern colonies. Her contention is that prior to the Revolutionary War, the economic modalities—especially in the southern colonies—could most aptly be characterized as agrarian pre-capitalistic.

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