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3 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

A lot more Democrats that currently hate their party than Republicans who hate theirs. 

There's definitely something to that.  My hatred of the Democrats is almost as much as my hatred for the Republicans, for entirely different reasons (Republicans for the buttfucking they're giving the Republic, and Democrats for standing by and letting them do it).  But I'll vote for Dems 100% of the time these days.  I never used to be a straight ticket voter.  But then, until the last decade or so, one party had never gone down the "be full authoritarian and end the Republic" road, so...there's that.

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8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

There's definitely something to that.  My hatred of the Democrats is almost as much as my hatred for the Republicans, for entirely different reasons (Republicans for the buttfucking they're giving the Republic, and Democrats for standing by and letting them do it).  But I'll vote for Dems 100% of the time these days.  I never used to be a straight ticket voter.  But then, until the last decade or so, one party had never gone down the "be full authoritarian and end the Republic" road, so...there's that.

They're acting like controlled opposition, it's infuriating 

Republicans are giving their supporters what they want; Democrats are not giving their supporters what they want. It's that simple.

27 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

 

I like this tactic. It has the imprimatur of an official hearing by a government in exile. Yeah, it shows they don't have the power to hold hearings while showing what they could do *if* they had power. It's kind of striking and, dare I say, subversive.

Maybe it's just stupid and performative. I dunno. It kinda works for me.

9 minutes ago, bolverk said:

 

I like this tactic. It has the imprimatur of an official hearing by a government in exile. Yeah, it shows they don't have the power to hold hearings while showing what they could do *if* they had power. It's kind of striking and, dare I say, subversive.

Maybe it's just stupid and performative. I dunno. It kinda works for me.

It's obviously performative, but that's a substantial part of the job. This is good stuff and they should do more of it.

51 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

My congresscritter, yay! She's pretty good on this stuff and doesn't take a lot of shit - that said, you'd be hard-pressed to find a safer seat, which does make it easier. Glad she's doing this. "Shadow Government" is a good definition and one common in parliamentary systems. 

More of this

 

5 hours ago, bolverk said:

 

I like this tactic. It has the imprimatur of an official hearing by a government in exile. Yeah, it shows they don't have the power to hold hearings while showing what they could do *if* they had power. It's kind of striking and, dare I say, subversive.

Maybe it's just stupid and performative. I dunno. It kinda works for me.

It's better than whatever Schumer and Jeffries claim to be doing

If there is anything we need the Democratic politicians to do right now, it's to use whatever legal powers and influence they still have to ensure we actually have mid-term elections next year. 

Just got a text from Sherrod Brown asking for money because he doesn’t wear nice suits like the rest of Congress. He’s a man of the people. 
 

JFC

15 hours ago, Pancho said:

Sign this man up!

 

 

 

Graham Plattner up in Maine is fairly refreshing too

https://goldrushcam.com/sierrasuntimes/index.php/news/local-news/71033-california-u-s-senator-adam-schiff-democrat-representatives-introduce-constitutional-amendment-to-overturn-citizens-united-says-our-amendment-will-keep-big-money-out-of-politics-and-restore-power-where-it-should-belong-with-the-american-people

 

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Citizens Over Corporations Amendment, a proposed amendment to the U.S. Constitution that would overturn Citizens United v. FEC and limit corporate influence and spending in American politics.

If there is one thing Republican voters might side with Democrats, I would assume it is this. Republicans will kill this attempt for the fourth? year in a row and their voters will not say a word. The financial influence and transparency need to flip back to favor the citizens.

19 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Just got a text from Sherrod Brown asking for money because he doesn’t wear nice suits like the rest of Congress. He’s a man of the people. 
 

JFC

That kind of aww shucks folksiness must have tested well in the focus group.

 

1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

That kind of aww shucks folksiness must have tested well in the focus group.

 

Focus group of 50 white people over 60

Why leftists always lose, example ♾️

“My audience is bigger here, therefore this is more important, even though the only people I reach are the ones I already have”

 

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3 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Why leftists always lose, example ♾️

“My audience is bigger here, therefore this is more important, even though the only people I reach are the ones I already have”

 

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You're ignoring her other major point of it being actual people and not just socks and bots, but go off king

20 minutes ago, Captainant said:

You're ignoring her other major point of it being actual people and not just socks and bots, but go off king

No, I’m not. She’s handwaving, because like the vast majority of her fellow affluent partners in white leftist rightthink she enjoys the privilege to lose without consequence. 

Hur dur twitter has bots, bluesky is more important.
Thats like saying Mother Jones is the most important magazine in the world because the only people who know what’s in it are its own subscribers.

It must be nice to imagine that your safe space will stay safe if you keep your hands clean. 

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The bigger point is you need to do both. These people have staffs. Have a person for Twitter and a person for Bluesky and another person for YouTube, etc. 

Clara Jeffery: great at politics and very in touch with the world outside the bubble of wealthy coastal leftism

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2 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

leftist rightthink

Is that like when incredulity accused me of being an "antifa fascist"?

5 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Hur dur twitter has bots, bluesky is more important.
Thats like saying Mother Jones is the most important magazine in the world because the only people who know what’s in it are its own subscribers.

It must be nice to imagine that your safe space will stay safe if you keep your hands clean. 

I don't see it as building a safe space - that would ACTUALLY be Elon buying Twitter and changing its algorithm to amplify conservative voices and diminish progressive voices. It's a perfectly reasonable response to just not play the rigged game and go to a different platform. 

Twitter IS the safe space. Elon changes Grok every time it demonstrates it's liberal bias for facts, or strays from the Party line for fucks sake lol. I don't see what anyone would have to gain to stay on Twitter and be the rabbit for the dogs chasing around the track there.

54 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Why leftists always lose, example ♾️

“My audience is bigger here, therefore this is more important, even though the only people I reach are the ones I already have”

 

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For every one of these, there are a dozen equally stupid things said by the right but for some reason nobody ever pretends as if the republican party needs to answer for them

30 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Is that like when incredulity accused me of being an "antifa fascist"?

I don't see it as building a safe space - that would ACTUALLY be Elon buying Twitter and changing its algorithm to amplify conservative voices and diminish progressive voices. It's a perfectly reasonable response to just not play the rigged game and go to a different platform. 

Twitter IS the safe space. Elon changes Grok every time it demonstrates its liberal bias for facts, or strays from the Party line for fucks sake lol. I don't see what anyone would have to gain to stay on Twitter and be the rabbit for the dogs chasing around the track there.

I think the larger point that’s being missed here is that the majority of voters are just not that online. Facebook, maybe, but there are a lot of folks that have absolutely no connection to Twitter, Bluesky, etc. There are too many folks who think their audience there is the real world. A sliver of it, sure, but not the whole pie.

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Why leftists always lose, example ♾️

“My audience is bigger here, therefore this is more important, even though the only people I reach are the ones I already have”

 

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Clara Jeffrey is a leftist? I’ve been in San Francisco too long, progressives here call her a Republican. 

36 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Is that like when incredulity accused me of being an "antifa fascist"?

I have no idea what that means but do you honestly believe that progressive maxis aren’t highly intolerant of ideologically heterodox allies and co-belligerents? Because that is some bullshit. And I’m not even talking about Ralph Nader and Jill Stein yet. 

36 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I don't see it as building a safe space

You don’t see Bluesky as a safe space? JFC

14 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

For every one of these, there are a dozen equally stupid things said by the right but for some reason nobody ever pretends as if the republican party needs to answer for them

Oh you expect the Republicans to be smart? JFC. 
My brother, let me put this in all caps so even the progressive maxis can understand, ahem: 

THE ONLY REASON DEMOCRATS EXIST IS TO INVADE THEIR SPACES, FLIP THEIR SUPPORTERS AND FORCE THE REPUBLICANS TO ANSWER. 

in other words dude, it’s your job to do that, not some other person. And if it’s not your job because you would rather keep your hands clean, then respectfully GTFO of the Democratic Party thread with your bitching about why “nobody” holds the Republicans to account for their bullshit. 

2 minutes ago, We’reTexas said:

Clara Jeffrey is a leftist? I’ve been in San Francisco too long, progressives here call her a Republican. 

The greens do it in NY too because she was mean to Jill Stein. 

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38 minutes ago, Captainant said:

It's a perfectly reasonable response to just not play the rigged game and go to a different platform. 

No, it’s a perfectly ridiculous response to look at what Elon Musk has done to Twitter and not see opportunity. It demonstrates just a massive failure of imagination.

6 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

No, it’s a perfectly ridiculous response to look at what Elon Musk has done to Twitter and not see opportunity. It demonstrates just a massive failure of imagination.

What opportunity? To get banned? 

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

What opportunity? To get banned? 

Spoken like a man who deleted his twitter account 

3 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Spoken like a man who deleted his twitter account 

Of course I did. I only used it as a news feed anyway. Bluesky is just as good for that. And also, no Elmo.

On 9/15/2025 at 8:26 AM, TwiceHorn said:

How so?  I think I agree with you, but I'm interested in your reasoning.

To me, the problem is the fundamental incompatibility of religion, practiced authentically, and politics.  It's not just the election part, but the actual governing part, as well.

Talarico is trying to run a Christ-like, or more Christ-like. campaign than the alleged Christians, but without invoking Christ by name.  I applaud the notion in the abstract, but I think it's going to be a tough go.

@Kyrie Eleison can explain it better but one can make the argument that true Christians should remove themselves completely from the political process render unto Caesar and so forth 

 

but I do like what Talarico is doing 

Oh fuck me, Bozo has bought into Shadi Hamid thinking. He's in worse shape than I thought.

 

On 9/20/2025 at 6:45 PM, Bozo_Casanova said:

No, it’s a perfectly ridiculous response to look at what Elon Musk has done to Twitter and not see opportunity. It demonstrates just a massive failure of imagination.

This sounds like something Schumer or Jeffries would believe.  It's copium from a bygone era. 

I agree that BlueSky is fairly worthless, but Twitter is cooked. The platform, algorithm, and "AI" is completely corrupted. There are plenty of leftist/dems that still engage, and nothing moves the needle. 

On 9/20/2025 at 6:05 PM, Captainant said:

Is that like when incredulity accused me of being an "antifa fascist"?

No it's like when <username redacted> accuses me of being a tankie. Right?

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On 9/20/2025 at 6:04 PM, Bozo_Casanova said:

Clara Jeffery: great at politics and very in touch with the world outside the bubble of wealthy coastal leftism

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I get what you're saying but it really pisses me off when some cow tells me to have a blessed day....gtfo with that shit.

43 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Oh fuck me, Bozo has bought into Shadi Hamid thinking. He's in worse shape than I thought.

I don’t know who that is, but based on a quick perusal of his Twitter account he seems to have the same set of affluent elite blind spots tha affluents leftist maxis have. He just arrives at a different, yet equally absurd and fantastical conclusion.

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I mean that’s crackhead talk man. A formal national dialogue process? WTF

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On 9/20/2025 at 7:37 PM, sasquatch69 said:

I think the larger point that’s being missed here is that the majority of voters are just not that online.

Precisely

One day  I will stan for something like  bozo stans for Twitter.

6 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

I get what you're saying but it really pisses me off when some cow tells me to have a blessed day....gtfo with that shit.

1) this is the secular lefty equivalent of getting bent out of shape when someone says “happy holidays.”

2) a national media figure should NEVER put a working class person’s job at risk this way unless they do something hurtful or criminal.  She punches down and it’s contemptible. 

5 minutes ago, G650 said:

One day  I will stan for something like  bozo stans for Twitter.

For the record I hate Twitter, because the of the way it algorithmically promotes anti-American and fringe insurgent points of view. But I do stan for aggressive political marketing and direct confrontation, and that’s still possible on Twitter.

 

Also there is good shit on sports and other topics that form the bulk of my interests.

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5 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

1) this is the secular lefty equivalent of getting bent out of shape when someone says “happy holidays.”

2) a national media figure should NEVER put a working class person’s job at risk this way unless they do something hurtful or criminal.  She punches down and it’s contemptible. 

I get bombarded with Christian bullshit every goddamned day.  It gets fucking old.

8 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

For the record I hate Twitter, because the of the way it algorithmically promotes anti-American and fringe insurgent points of view. But I do stan for aggressive political marketing and direct confrontation, and that’s still possible on Twitter.

 

Also there is good shit on sports and other topics that form the bulk of my interests.

FYI, Mina Kimes pretty much single-handedly led an exodus of all the best nfl writers to Blue Sky. A lot of them still post links to their stuff on Twitter (which is probably contractually required) but do most of their actual posting on Blue Sky. It’s not all sports, but it’s a start.

 

13 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

But I do stan for aggressive political marketing and direct confrontation, and that’s still possible on Twitter.

Just gonna have to agree to disagree on that second part, though I am firmly in agreement on the first bit. 

29 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I mean that’s crackhead talk man. A formal national dialogue process? WTF

Or in Austin, it's a core function, called a "charrette."

It's just as delusional and fart-sniffing, but it's in french, so it's cool.  I bet they do charrettes in Portland, so there ya go, they're just good policy.

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