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#5701

People who find the Babylon Bee funny need to be jettisoned into space. No subtley, everything just beats you over the nose.

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  • Bama Chick
    Bama Chick

    No. Fuck off with that. Not every abortion is about trauma and tragedy and using that framing plays into the christofascist’s hands. Women are humans. Humans have bodily autonomy. Ergo, women have b

  • Brisketexan
    Brisketexan

    I do love this argument. I really do. It’s as convenient a way to label yourself a drooling moron as exists, outside of towing around a giant neon “I’M A MORON” sign. No, they didn’t teach us that

  • hayden_horn
    hayden_horn

    of course you do. thing is, i would support that. if they choose that. and the real thing is, i'm actually pro life. both my sons were very premature, and had they been born in the 80s, they

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#5702
48 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:
Kari Lake Announces Plan To Lose Another Election But This Time While Supporting Baby Murder https://t.co/cfSwPNFk6Z

 

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#5703
26 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

People who find the Babylon Bee funny need to be jettisoned into space. No subtley, everything just beats you over the nose.

Three Year Letterman is the only worse thing on the internet.

 

 

 

Meanwhile

 

‘These people seem to be acting as though they're pro-life with three exceptions for rape, incest, and declining poll numbers.’

 

#5704

 

"A lot of Republicans who have, quite frankly, championed this kind of thing, for what, two generations are finding themselves, at least in Arizona, on the wrong side of this issue," @barrettmarson tells @JohnYangTV in the wake of Arizona's 160-year-old abortion ban.

 

 

 

#5705
20 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

Three Year Letterman is the only worse thing on the internet.


It's not three-year letterman who is funny, it's the people who don't realize that he's trolling and their responses.  Like Candid Camera but on the internet. I have literally wept in laughter at some of those who don't realize he's putting them on.  Also ... worst thing? Tell me you haven't been to the TexAgs politics board without telling me ...

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#5706
On 4/9/2024 at 1:37 PM, Js1 said:

Just a fun reminder - Mayes won by 280 votes in November 2022. 

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I was one of them. 

#5710
17 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:


It's not three-year letterman who is funny, it's the people who don't realize that he's trolling and their responses.  Like Candid Camera but on the internet. I have literally wept in laughter at some of those who don't realize he's putting them on.  Also ... worst thing? Tell me you haven't been to the TexAgs politics board without telling me ...


On que, Kari Lake's Twitter account mistook 3 Year Letterman for a legit account and went after him. Ha ha ha.

#5711

Yeah it’s the pompous asses that take 3YL wild non sequiturs and obviously ridiculous mischaracterizations of their positions seriously and go off on him that make him funny. It was funnier when he was an unknown but still hits on occasion

#5712
7 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Yeah it’s the pompous asses that take 3YL wild non sequiturs and obviously ridiculous mischaracterizations of their positions seriously and go off on him that make him funny. It was funnier when he was an unknown but still hits on occasion


This is true. Now as soon as he responds to somebody with some ridiculous take 3/4 of his followers, who are in on the joke, start making comments like "Kari Lake sounds like she paid too much interest on her waterbed, Coach .."  thus cluing in the unsuspecting that it's a parody account. Still, there are some takers on nearly every one of his posts.

#5713
On 4/14/2024 at 10:19 AM, Sawbonz said:

Yeah it’s the pompous asses that take 3YL wild non sequiturs and obviously ridiculous mischaracterizations of their positions seriously and go off on him that make him funny. It was funnier when he was an unknown but still hits on occasion

Knowing that he’s an attorney in real life, every now and then I wonder what his Surly handle is.

#5714
20 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Knowing that he’s an attorney in real life, every now and then I wonder what his Surly handle is.

Once we start kicking UGA’s ass regularly, he’ll find his way over here

#5716

LMAO.  Arizona legislators whining after the decision about how wrong and unfair it is and not what they stand for

"Okay, here is a bill to repeal that decision"

Arizona GOP:

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#5719
22 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Between Kari Lake and abortion, Arizona should be solid Dem for years to come.

About that; here's something to give you pause...

https://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/report/092623_election_official_turnover/98-arizonans-will-have-new-elections-officials-2024/

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Arizona has lost nearly all of its experienced election officials and 98% of the state will have new officials running elections in 2024 than ran the 2020 elections, a new report found. 

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The state has also seen threats of violence towards election officials and those who help administer elections. Five recent cases from the U.S. Department of Justice were all from Arizona that included individuals who called for election officials to be killed and in some areas, such as in Yavapai County, one official ended up needing security from the local sheriff at their home.

The report by Issue One, a nonpartisan political reform nonprofit, shows that 12 of Arizona’s 15 counties will have new election officials this cycle, many of whom are less experienced than their predecessors. An estimated 98% of Arizona’s expected 2024 voters live in those counties. 

Arizona has seen a drain of 176 collective years of experience since November 2020. Additionally, the median amount of experience for officials in the 12 impacted counties has dropped from about 10 years to about 1. 

Also:

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/09/1242811437/election-voting-officials-threats-turnover

From that article above at NPR, here's a figure from the nationwide study:

"The researchers measured whether a local election office changed hands over a 4-year cycle. In 2022 (the most recent year with complete data), the turnover rate was 39%, compared to 28% in 2004.

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A chart showing election official turnover rate since the 2000 election.

Courtesy of the Bipartisan Policy Center

In recent years, as the attrition began to snowball, experts worried the impact on 2024 could be disastrous.

New election officials tend to make more mistakes, and conspiracy theories about voting tend to focus on honest mishaps to try to build a false narrative that voting more broadly can't be trusted."

The article does go on to remark that overall & especially in large metro areas the new officials coming in still have a fair bit of experience. But IMO, Arizona may be a bellwether for "issues" that YOU KNOW the RW media will play up into a storm like in 2020.

#5721
Kristi Noem is considered a leading contender to be Trump VP pick. Here she says that women who are victims of rape or incest should be denied access to abortion services. https://t.co/tu36kf5i2H

 

#5723
Arizona House votes to overturn the state's century-old abortion ban, paving the way for a repeal that would leave a 15-week restriction in place https://t.co/c6aToya0Fb

 

#5724
On 4/21/2024 at 9:10 AM, cactusflinthead said:
Kristi Noem is considered a leading contender to be Trump VP pick. Here she says that women who are victims of rape or incest should be denied access to abortion services. https://t.co/tu36kf5i2H

 

When the MAGAest of the MAGAs won’t give a yes know answer on their personal stance on abortion you know they are scared 

#5725
26 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:
Arizona House votes to overturn the state's century-old abortion ban, paving the way for a repeal that would leave a 15-week restriction in place https://t.co/c6aToya0Fb

 

While this is great for the people invovled, I wonder if leaving this in place until the election wasn't a better move. 

#5726
9 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

While this is great for the people invovled, I wonder if leaving this in place until the election wasn't a better move. 

The House and Senate in Arizona are both GOP held.  If the Dems torpedoed this, or Hobbs vetoes it, they're going to get more of the blame

#5727
Arizona House Republicans just booted state Rep. Matt Gress off the Appropriations Committee, minutes after he voted to overturn 1864 abortion ban. Wow.

 

#5728
3 hours ago, 4th&Five said:
Arizona House votes to overturn the state's century-old abortion ban, paving the way for a repeal that would leave a 15-week restriction in place https://t.co/c6aToya0Fb

 

 

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#5729
2 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

When the MAGAest of the MAGAs won’t give a yes know answer on their personal stance on abortion you know they are scared 

Especially since Kari Lake backtracked and was pushing the 1864 law.

#5730
5 hours ago, 4th&Five said:
Arizona House votes to overturn the state's century-old abortion ban, paving the way for a repeal that would leave a 15-week restriction in place https://t.co/c6aToya0Fb

 

I was hoping we would use the abortion ballot amendment, which the campaign has said they have more than enough signatures to get on the ballot this year, to fix this problem in Arizona. 
 

Let it juice turn out in the election.

#5731

Holy shit. I'm not a lawyer but I have a new hero and her name is Elizabeth Prelogar.  
 

If you’re looking for a masterclass in lawyering, listen to this clip of Elizabeth Prelogar absolutely demolishing Justice Sam Alito - she got her hands on him and didn’t let him go 😭 I know who my GOAT is (also that’s @Eli_Kunene dying in the background).

 

 

#5732
7 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Holy shit. I'm not a lawyer but I have a new hero and her name is Elizabeth Prelogar.  
 

If you’re looking for a masterclass in lawyering, listen to this clip of Elizabeth Prelogar absolutely demolishing Justice Sam Alito - she got her hands on him and didn’t let him go 😭 I know who my GOAT is (also that’s @Eli_Kunene dying in the background).

 

 

Fuck Alito.

#5734
8 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Holy shit. I'm not a lawyer but I have a new hero and her name is Elizabeth Prelogar.  
 

If you’re looking for a masterclass in lawyering, listen to this clip of Elizabeth Prelogar absolutely demolishing Justice Sam Alito - she got her hands on him and didn’t let him go 😭 I know who my GOAT is (also that’s @Eli_Kunene dying in the background).

Gaaawd, I hate motherfuckers like Alito who drop the "I want a simple, clear-cut answer" to complicated issues like this. He's obviously equipped to deal with nuance, and she had just answered the question as clearly as it could be answered.  It seems like he was looking for a "well, an abortion might be warranted in some limited mental health emergencies " so he (or Fox News) could scream, "Aha!! Mental health isn't 'real' and all those liberal doctors are gonna be using this as a basis for terminating pregnancies at 37 weeks!! SLiPpeRY SlOPe!1!!"  

 

#5735
2 hours ago, Gap03 said:

"Aha!! Mental health isn't 'real' and all those liberal doctors are gonna be using this as a basis for terminating pregnancies at 37 weeks!! SLiPpeRY SlOPe!1!!"  

they really don't trust doctors. 

#5737
6 hours ago, Gap03 said:

Gaaawd, I hate motherfuckers like Alito who drop the "I want a simple, clear-cut answer" to complicated issues like this. He's obviously equipped to deal with nuance, and she had just answered the question as clearly as it could be answered.  It seems like he was looking for a "well, an abortion might be warranted in some limited mental health emergencies " so he (or Fox News) could scream, "Aha!! Mental health isn't 'real' and all those liberal doctors are gonna be using this as a basis for terminating pregnancies at 37 weeks!! SLiPpeRY SlOPe!1!!"  

 

Edith Jones (5th cir) pulled that shit on me once.  I knew where she was TRYING to go.  But I made her ask the complete question, which when asked in full form, was stupid, and plainly so.  She gave an exasperated sigh, and said "what I'm ASKING is....."  And then I answered "in that case, no."  And then moved on to my next issue.  

I didn't exactly lose her -- she was plainly against my client from the start.  But I could at least avoid giving her the satisfaction of thinking she succeeded with a clever gotcha.

These old dinosaur fake "conservative" judges are all the fucking same. 

#5738

“Keep your Rosaries off my ovaries.”

Protest sign I just saw on the news about Florida’s 6-week ban about to go into effect. I thought that was pretty clever. Maybe I’m out of the loop but that was new to me. 

#5739
On 4/24/2024 at 11:06 PM, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Holy shit. I'm not a lawyer but I have a new hero and her name is Elizabeth Prelogar.  

She's fucking outstanding. 

#5740
On 4/25/2024 at 2:22 PM, Brisketexan said:

Edith Jones (5th cir) pulled that shit on me once.  I knew where she was TRYING to go.  But I made her ask the complete question, which when asked in full form, was stupid, and plainly so.  She gave an exasperated sigh, and said "what I'm ASKING is....."  And then I answered "in that case, no."  And then moved on to my next issue.  

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#5741

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2024/05/03/texas-abortion-investigations/

Texas man files legal action to probe ex-partner’s out-of-state abortion

The previously unreported petition reflects a potential new antiabortion strategy to block women from ending their pregnancies in states where abortion is legal.

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Texas man files legal action to probe ex-partner’s out-of-state abortion

The previously unreported petition reflects a potential new antiabortion strategy to block women from ending their pregnancies in states where abortion is legal.

 
Police watch as antiabortion advocates take part in a demonstration outside the Texas Capitol in Austin on Jan. 27. (Suzanne Cordeiro/AFP/Getty Images)

As soon as Collin Davis found out his ex-partner was planning to travel to Colorado to have an abortion in late February, the Texas man retained a high-powered antiabortion attorney — who court records show immediately issued a legal threat.

If the woman proceeded with the abortion, even in a state where the procedure remains legal, Davis would seek a full investigation into the circumstances surrounding the abortion and “pursue wrongful-death claims against anyone involved in the killing of his unborn child,” the lawyer wrote in a letter, according to records.

Now, Davis has disclosed his former partner’s abortion to a state district court in Texas, asking for the power to investigate what his lawyer characterizes as potentially illegal activity in a state where almost all abortions are banned.

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The previously unreported petition was submitted under an unusual legal mechanism often used in Texas to investigate suspected illegal actions before a lawsuit is filed. The petition claims Davis could sue either under the state’s wrongful-death statute or the novel Texas law known as Senate Bill 8 that allows private citizens to file suit against anyone who “aids or abets” an illegal abortion.

The decision to target an abortion that occurred outside of Texas represents a potential new strategy by antiabortion activists to achieve a goal many in the movement have been working toward since Roe v. Wade was overturned: stopping women from traveling out of state to end their pregnancies. Crossing state lines for abortion care remains legal nationwide.

The case also illustrates the role that men who disapprove of their partners’ decisions could play in surfacing future cases that may violate abortion bans — either by filing their own civil lawsuits or by reporting the abortions to law enforcement.

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Under Texas law, performing an abortion is a crime punishable by up to a lifetime in prison and up to $100,000 in civil penalties. Women seeking abortions cannot be charged under the state’s abortion restrictions, but the laws target anyone who performs or helps to facilitate an illegal abortion, including those who help distribute abortion pills.

Davis’s petition — filed under Texas’s Rule 202 by Jonathan Mitchell, a prominent antiabortion attorney known for devising new and aggressive legal strategies to crack down on abortion — follows a lawsuit filed last spring by another Texas man, Marcus Silva, who is attempting to sue three women who allegedly helped his ex-wife obtain abortion pills.

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“Mr. Davis is considering whether to sue individuals and organizations that participated in the murder of his unborn child,” Mitchell, widely known as the architect of Senate Bill 8, wrote in Davis’s complaint in March.

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Davis’s petition includes no evidence of illegal activity. Davis’s former partner ultimately obtained her abortion in Colorado, Davis claims in the court documents. Mitchell suggests in the petition that people who helped her procure the abortion could be found liable.

Antiabortion advocates have tried various tactics to dissuade women from traveling out of state for abortions. Idaho has passed a law making it illegal for someone to help a minor leave the state for an abortion without parental consent — which is currently blocked by the courts — and Tennessee is pursuing similar restrictions. Several Texas cities and counties have passed local ordinances attempting to stop women seeking abortions from using key portions of high-traffic highways.

Mitchell said in a statement that abortions that occur outside Texas can be targets for civil litigation.

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“Fathers of aborted fetuses can sue for wrongful death in states with abortion bans, even if the abortion occurs out-of-state,” he wrote. “They can sue anyone who paid for the abortion, anyone who aided or abetted the travel, and anyone involved in the manufacture or distribution of abortion drugs.”

Molly Duane, a senior staff attorney with the Center for Reproductive Rights, described Mitchell’s statement and general approach as misleading “fearmongering.”

“People need to understand that it is not a crime to leave Texas or any other state in the country for an abortion,” said Duane, who is working with lawyers from the firm Arnold & Porter to represent the woman and others targeted in the Davis case. “I don’t want people to be intimidated, but they should be outraged and alarmed.”

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Duane described the woman’s relationship with Davis as “toxic and harmful.”

Davis — who claims in the petition to have helped conceive what he calls his “unborn child” — did not respond to requests for comment. Mitchell declined to comment on Duane’s description of the relationship.

Abortion rights advocates say these types of legal actions amount to “vigilante justice” designed to intimidate people who have done nothing wrong. Duane and other lawyers representing the woman asked the court to redact the names of those involved from the public court filings, out of a concern for their privacy and safety.

The judge agreed to seal the original petition with the identifying information.

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“The document at issue contains confidential and sensitive information including the Respondents’ full names ... and sensitive allegations about health care that the Respondents have a substantial interest in keeping confidential,” the judge wrote in an order signed Wednesday.

Over the past two years, many antiabortion activists have grown frustrated by what they see as a lack of enforcement of abortion bans — particularly as abortion pills become more widely available in antiabortion states because of growing online and community-based pill networks.

Some antiabortion advocates are searching for a way to crack down.

“You have laws being ignored systematically — so what are we going to do about it?” said John Seago, president of Texas Right to Life, the state’s largest antiabortion group. The pill networks, he added, “can and should be prosecuted.”

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Several district attorneys in conservative areas told The Post that abortion laws are difficult to enforce in practice, largely because they have no clear way to find out about these cases.

“First you would have to have some sort of complaining party … then law enforcement would have to do a full investigation,” said Kent Volkmer, county attorney for Pinal County in Arizona, where the Republican-led legislature has voted to repeal an 1864 abortion law. “I think it’s extremely unlikely that an abortion-related criminal charge would ever be submitted to our office.”

If one of these cases did surface, Volkmer said, it would probably be reported by an employee of a doctor’s office who was aware of the abortion — or by the “purported father.”

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Volkmer added that, because of his office’s policy to only prosecute cases with a reasonable likelihood of conviction, he would only anticipate prosecuting what he characterized as an “extreme” situation, such as an abortion that occurred late in the third trimester.

In the Davis case, Mitchell is attempting to depose the woman who had the abortion, along with several other people he writes may be “complicit” in the abortion. If deposed, they would be asked about others involved in the abortion, including any abortion funds or any other entities that provided financial support, according to court records. They would also have to provide all documentation relevant to the abortion.

“Mr. Davis expects to be able to better evaluate the prospects for legal success after deposing [the people listed], and discovering the identity of their co-conspirators and accomplices,” Mitchell wrote in the complaint, which he filed on March 22.

Davis is now awaiting a decision from the state district court.

While the vast majority of Texas abortion funds stopped providing funding for out-of-state abortions after Roe was overturned — concerned for their legal risk amid vague laws they worried might allow prosecutors to target them — many resumed operations in the spring of 2023, reassured by a court ruling that has temporarily blocked some prosecutors from going after people who help Texans obtain abortions across state lines.

“I want people to know we don’t think there’s anything illegal about helping someone leave the state for an abortion,” said Duane, with the Center for Reproductive Rights. “These are Jonathan Mitchell … tactics to discourage people.”

 

#5746
8 minutes ago, elfenix said:

Has Jonathan Mitchell ever met a woman?

The one who brought cookies to the Federalist Society meeting that one time.

#5748

Friend’s son knocked his gf up. They had to take them to fucking Kansas to get the abortion pill. Staunch Republicans now straight ticket Dem voters come October 

#5750
16 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Friend’s son knocked his gf up. They had to take them to fucking Kansas to get the abortion pill. Staunch Republicans now straight ticket Dem voters come October 

They couldn’t have been too staunch if they weren’t saving their virginities and doing it in the pooper instead.

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