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That hasn’t happened anywhere else yet. 

With an abortion referendum on the ballot, doesn’t that just give suburban GOP women voters a convenient “out”. Vote against the abortion ban, but then vote for all of the shitbag GOP candidates?
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  • Bama Chick
    Bama Chick

    No. Fuck off with that. Not every abortion is about trauma and tragedy and using that framing plays into the christofascist’s hands. Women are humans. Humans have bodily autonomy. Ergo, women have b

  • Brisketexan
    Brisketexan

    I do love this argument. I really do. It’s as convenient a way to label yourself a drooling moron as exists, outside of towing around a giant neon “I’M A MORON” sign. No, they didn’t teach us that

  • hayden_horn
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    of course you do. thing is, i would support that. if they choose that. and the real thing is, i'm actually pro life. both my sons were very premature, and had they been born in the 80s, they

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Occasionally he has some self-awareness about campaign issues

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/08/politics/donald-trump-abortion-2024/index.html

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Former President Donald Trump said Monday that abortion rights should be left to the states, offering his clearest stance yet on one of the most delicate and contentious issues in American politics.

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“My view is now that we have abortion where everyone wanted it from a legal standpoint, the states will determine by vote or legislation, or perhaps both. And whatever they decide must be the law of the land. In this case, the law of the state,” Trump said in a video posted to his Truth Social account. 

“Many states will be different,” Trump continued. “Many will have a different number of weeks, or some will have more conservative than others, and that’s what they will be. At the end of the day, this is all about the will of the people.”

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Trump had previously suggested he could support a 15-week federal ban with exceptions in the cases of incest, rape and when the life of the mother is in danger. However, his ultimate decision to punt the politically fraught issue to the states and not back a national ban was swiftly denounced by a major anti-abortion rights organization that said his position did not go far enough.

In Monday’s video, Trump said he was “proudly the person responsible” for the overturning of Roe v. Wade, which he said took the issue “out of the federal hands and brought it into the hearts, minds, and vote of the people in each state.”

So what do the anti-abortion folks sau

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In a statement following Trump’s announcement on Monday, Marjorie Dannenfelser, the president of Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America, said her organization was “deeply disappointed” by Trump’s statement.

“Saying the issue is ‘back to the states’ cedes the national debate to the Democrats who are working relentlessly to enact legislation mandating abortion throughout all nine months of pregnancy. If successful, they will wipe out states’ rights,” she said.

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I'm old enough to recall when politicians tended to skirt the truth at most on hot-button topics.  Now it's cool to tell bald-faced lies.

I get that logic left the chat a while ago but "abortion is literally the murder of babies but also it's up to the states to decide if this is allowed" is an absurd attempt at threading the needle.

6 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'm old enough to recall when politicians tended to skirt the truth at most on hot-button topics.  Now it's cool to tell bald-faced lies.

What’s crazy is Trump is out there bashing Lindsey Fucking Graham for being too strict on abortion

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And Trump is continuing this spat as of a few minutes ago:

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Senator Lindsey Graham and Marjorie Dannenfelser should study the 10th Amendment and States’ Rights. When they do, they should proudly get on with helping Republicans to WIN ELECTIONS, rather than making it impossible for them to do so!

I blame myself for Lindsey Graham, because the only reason he won in the Great State of South Carolina is because I Endorsed him!

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Sending this Issue back to the States was the Policy of the Republican Party and Conservatives for over 50 years, due to States’ Rights and 10th Amendment, and only happened because of the Justices I proudly Nominated and got Confirmed.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112237233959611965

2 hours ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

The pro-lifers should all vote for RFK

Given that Trump is fighting with Lindsey Graham because Graham wants a national ban and Trump wants it left to the states (or his PR people I should say), there’s a decent chance this might happen.  At one point, RFK Jr was willing to sign a federal ban.

 

Genuinely unsettling to see Trump correctly reading (at least when it comes to a national ban) a hot button political issue.  

11 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Genuinely unsettling to see Trump correctly reading (at least when it comes to a national ban) a hot button political issue.  

That’s his intern or PR team, because that was way too cohesive of an argument.

Have we learned nothing? Don’t believe a word Trump says. If he gets back into office, he’ll enact a national ban to secure the loyalty of the hardline extremists he needs to keep him in power for the rest of his life. Don’t fall for his lies.

It’s amazing that anyone still takes the shit he says seriously. 

Correct. The “leave it to the states” rhetoric is to appease the “fiscal conservative” / originalists / states rights / libertarian idiots. They’re super smart, just ask them. 

4 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

 Don’t fall for his lies.

This right here. He will say whatever it takes because Winning.

4 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Have we learned nothing? Don’t believe a word Trump says. If he gets back into office, he’ll enact a national ban to secure the loyalty of the hardline extremists he needs to keep him in power for the rest of his life. Don’t fall for his lies.

It’s amazing that anyone still takes the shit he says seriously. 

you mean to tell me he probably didn't raise $50.5M the other night?

2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

 

I so wish he was still around, he'd have a field day with all that has been going on

There's not one pro choicer that is going to vote for Trump because of this.  "Well, I know the entire party wants to force 10 year olds to have babies but Trump himself said the states should do it but OK."

That ain't happening.

They are trotting this out because they spent $1b on focus groups and the data told them "states rights" was the least bad option for them on Dobbs.

Arizona is going blue now.

And 2 of the justices are up in November in retention elections ("do you want to keep this judge or force an election?") 

btw... seriously, what the fuck is it with him and such random capitalization? is he actually German??

3 minutes ago, mchookem said:

btw... seriously, what the fuck is it with him and such random capitalization? is he actually German??

but it's not even just nouns lol

10 minutes ago, mchookem said:

btw... seriously, what the fuck is it with him and such random capitalization? is he actually German??

He’s a fucking moron. 

34 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Arizona is going blue now.

And 2 of the justices are up in November in retention elections ("do you want to keep this judge or force an election?") 

Yep, they already have enough signatures to put it (referendum) on the November ballot and will keep going.  Should really help Gallegos and Biden x  

Trump: Leave it to the states
 

The states: 1864, anyone?

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

Arizona is going blue now.

And 2 of the justices are up in November in retention elections ("do you want to keep this judge or force an election?") 

 If I was George Soros, paying off some judges to really clamp down on abortion would be money well spent, as it will drive a lot of people to the polls.

2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 If I was George Soros, paying off some judges to really clamp down on abortion would be money well spent, as it will drive a lot of people to the polls.

yeah, even Soros doesn't need to pay it, they do that shit for free given the chance 

Arizona court gets to show off how freaky they are while handing the dems a US senate seat and Arizona’s electoral votes. Sounds like a good exchange to me.

3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 If I was George Soros, paying off some judges to really clamp down on abortion would be money well spent, as it will drive a lot of people to the polls.

Um, no. Making a bad situation worse when it has real impacts is just, no.

1 minute ago, HenryJames said:

Hang it around her fucking neck.

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She's begging for help in her race.

6 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Hang it around her fucking neck.

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Kari, dis you?

 

^^^Just came here to post the quotes from that talk. Good leg work and rep to you!

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Referring to Js1 post above

4 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Free ad ….

 

yeah but at least he wasn't a woke lib!

49 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Trump: Leave it to the states
 

The states: 1864, anyone?

we know where this is headed.  anything else from 1864 that certain states would like to return to?

13 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Free ad ….

 

Slight resemblance... in more ways than one.

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4 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

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Just a fun reminder - Mayes won by 280 votes in November 2022. 

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1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Just a fun reminder - Mayes won by 280 votes in November 2022. 

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Wait she's complaining about a lawsuit that she technically won?

5 hours ago, Smax said:

 

I so wish he was still around, he'd have a field day with all that has been going on

He'd probably have killed himself out of sheer depression. Nothing is going on that he didn't call decades ago, it's just in the final stages of possibly happening. Imagine how frustrated and depressed he'd be? Or is that just me?

40 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Hang it around her fucking neck.

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Here's what the governor should do, say that she's going to campaign like hell for her party and to replace some judges form November. 

With this decision by the Airzona supreme court, there is now no surrounding state someone can drive to to get adequate female medical care. They're all red AF and complete bans. A woman like the one in that commercial that was sent from from a hospital, after her water broke, would have to get on a plane and fly to Colorado to get care. 

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5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

With this decision by the Airzona supreme court, there is now no surrounding state someone can drive to to get adequate female medical care. They're all red AF and complete bans.

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Arizona is right in between California and New Mexico, lol

Have borders changed and Arizona no longer abuts with Cali?

(Not that having to drive to CA for healthcare is okay in any way shape or form)

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28 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Free ad ….

 

He's a man! He's.....209!

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20 minutes ago, Kel Varnsen said:

Slight resemblance... in more ways than one.

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come on man, 15 is way too old for this guy

56 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Hang it around her fucking neck.

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Republicans are so spooked that Kari Lake has acknowledged she isn't Governor.

(But for real, this statement should be a flashing red sign to anyone trying to downplay is coming in November.)

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