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1 hour ago, workswithseed said:

Thanks for the drawing of yourself, but you should keep it to yourself.

No, Mr farmer, it’s a coloring book image of a monkey and the letter q. Q folk use Moloch to inform their alt-reality. Moloch did not prevent Christ, nor the council of Nicaea, from addressing abortion. Moloch did not carve out the  section of Jewish Law that detailed the death of perceived unfaithful wives and their feti. Abortion preceded the Canaanite, Moloch invoker.

The number one reason women have decided to abort their pregnancy is the pragmatic concern of feeding their family. The Torah, and Jesus Christ, are mum on the subject.

Chatterring nonsense? Monkey.

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  • Bama Chick
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    No. Fuck off with that. Not every abortion is about trauma and tragedy and using that framing plays into the christofascist’s hands. Women are humans. Humans have bodily autonomy. Ergo, women have b

  • Brisketexan
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    I do love this argument. I really do. It’s as convenient a way to label yourself a drooling moron as exists, outside of towing around a giant neon “I’M A MORON” sign. No, they didn’t teach us that

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    of course you do. thing is, i would support that. if they choose that. and the real thing is, i'm actually pro life. both my sons were very premature, and had they been born in the 80s, they

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9 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

No, Mr farmer, it’s a coloring book image of a monkey and the letter q. Q folk use Moloch to inform their alt-reality. Moloch did not prevent Christ, nor the council of Nicaea, from addressing abortion. Moloch did not carve out the  section of Jewish Law that detailed the death of perceived unfaithful wives and their feti. Abortion preceded the Canaanite, Moloch invoker.

The number one reason women have decided to abort their pregnancy is the pragmatic concern of feeding their family. The Torah, and Jesus Christ, are mum on the subject.

I mean the main reason is because they don't want the nuisance of another hungry mouth to feed, but it's obvious that I was responding to things before Christianity that practiced abortion. Just because you drink water means you're just like Hitler since he drunk water. 

this twitter thread broke me this evening

 

5 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

I mean the main reason is because they don't want the nuisance of another hungry mouth to feed, but it's obvious that I was responding to things before Christianity that practiced abortion. Just because you drink water means you're just like Hitler since he drunk water. 

Human history is rife with severe want, child of cotton.

Edited to point out I was explaining why I responded the way I did. Obviously, I don’t know you.

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13 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

I mean the main reason is because they don't want the nuisance of another hungry mouth to feed, but it's obvious that I was responding to things before Christianity that practiced abortion. Just because you drink water means you're just like Hitler since he drunk water. 

I think the whole point is that you fellas deciding that you can articulate the reasons why a woman has a particular abortion can fuck right off.  That's the whole point.  The whole point is fuck you, you fascist, sexist, male asshole.  As to the other males who don't play such aren't fascist sexist assholes on this board  - fuck you too if the woman doesn't want your counsel.

5 hours ago, gyroprotagonist said:

that's the way i see it.  fucking fake ass religious zealots who don't give 1 single fuck about a child or other humans in general but get to feel good about themselves for 'defending the unborn who can't defend themselves'

It’s fucking Y’all Qaeda at its finest.

15 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

I mean the main reason is because they don't want the nuisance of another hungry mouth to feed

You realize that throughout history the human condition, even in the US, prior to the latter half of the 20th century, was a state teetering on the edge of starvation? I’ll let you ponder what events changed that trajectory, and it wasn’t just advances in agriculture 

39 minutes ago, DonkeyCigars said:

Science is a discipline and the Scientific method is a process. The findings of science at any point in time can be either rejected or accepted. The extrapolated “knowledge”— the theoretical and they hypothetical knowledge (read: not empirical) based upon accepted findings— is absolutely belief. That’s my point.

Just like the idea that any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic or whatever that famous quote is, once you get to the limit of human understanding and empirical knowledge, it’s all conjecture, faith and belief.

Dude, this better not devolve into an argument over epistemic justification.

 

Anti-abortion folks are the vegans of the right in that both attempt to ratchet morality past what has been accepted. No more land of milk and honey and no more it’s none of your business, so don’t mention it.

Shocker. 5-4 against blocking the law. Roberts ruled with the liberals. ACB just spit in RGB’s face 

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What continues to be amazing is to watch mostly men get so lathered up about women’s pre birth health issues and later lose their zeal for post birth concerns. I mean, the drop off is dramatic. I guess it never occurs to the people (who consider themselves to be the last Christians) that there is a tie in to giving birth and providing essential health care that they simply refuse to give.

I guess the cruelty really is the point.

So, how does resolving something like an ectopic pregnancy bear out under this new law?

Since the justification for this is steeped in religion, I can’t help but think of it in those terms. I know context and all, but today I keep coming back to Matthew 23:

Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.

In my view, the pro-life movement has it backwards; the prevalence of abortion is a symptom of our societal sickness. If abortion is murder, then the pro-life movement is complicit in that murder, since they gleefully participate in and spread the societal sickness. No matter how harsh or strong the anti-abortion law, the pro-life movement will never absolve their moral responsibility until they are willing to upend our society and pay the costs of the burdens they create.  If you think you’re advocating for the unborn but you want vulnerable young women and girls to bear the cost and burden of your advocacy, whose interests are you actually pursuing?

Where do the anti-abortionists think the soul of the aborted embryo or fetus (or stillborn) goes? Wouldn’t it go to Heaven?

It was so depressing watching Rachel Maddow tonight. I hadn't known about the progress of the case against this law.

This is tyranny. This is the antithesis of liberty.

I don't know if I can make this make sense, but I'll try. During the debate about the Eyes of Texas, I found myself increasingly uncomfortable with the feeling that "we" were deciding what to concede to "them." Why are "we" the arbiter?

I decided that I'd be perfectly happy allowing the black students have plenary power in deciding what was racially offensive. Whatever they say, goes. They're not taking anything from me. It's theirs, too.

Similarly, who am I to tell a woman what to do? Or to tell anyone what to do. It's none of my goddamn business.

That was maybe the best of old sayings that used to be: It's none of my business. We owe each other tolerance. We don't owe each other explanations about our own private business.

21 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Where do the anti-abortionists think the soul of the aborted embryo or fetus (or stillborn) goes? Wouldn’t it go to Heaven?

I hope it dresses in spiked leather and flies up the ass of every fuckwad who feels like they have a say in someone else's medical decision.

How long until Abbott/Paxton try to station DPS troopers near the roads/highways that head into Oklahoma towns with abortion clinics?

1 hour ago, Mole said:

If abortion is murder, then the pro-life movement is complicit in that murder, since they gleefully participate in and spread the societal sickness. No matter how harsh or strong the anti-abortion law, the pro-life movement will never absolve their moral responsibility until they are willing to upend our society and pay the costs of the burdens they create.  If you think you’re advocating for the unborn but you want vulnerable young women and girls to bear the cost and burden of your advocacy, whose interests are you actually pursuing?

I think a lot of this is thoughtful and trends more to being "right" than any binary, blinders-on response like you see with David Dennison and his ilk.

And that is why I think this stuff is messy, complex, tragic and just all around sad. There aren't good answers because despite spurts of heroism or honor or altruism, IMO our society is sick (as you also seem to suggest) and people are inherently wicked and everything that follows is in general concert with those anchors.

100% agree with you that pro-life is complicit. Everything about this law and the previous laws and abortion and keeping unwanted children and the disservice we do and all the political hand-wringing...it all sucks.

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24 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

How long until Abbott/Paxton try to station DPS troopers near the roads/highways that head into Oklahoma towns with abortion clinics?

forget it jake, it’s gilead.

On the bright side, we all are surely going to drown or die from a variant of COVID before my daughter is old enough to feel the repercussions of this shit.

Remember how we all joked about how shitty 2020 was, as if it were some sort of aberration? And now 2021 is trying to equal it. I'm pretty sure that after a couple centuries where there was a trajectory of general improvement in human life, we are now on the downturn. It really is something to witness, although I would rather have experienced it a few more decades into my life.

The next logical step is for a blue state to issue $10k bounties for turning in anti-vaxxers, correct?

7 hours ago, bonnieblue said:

So, how does resolving something like an ectopic pregnancy bear out under this new law?


I just skimmed sb8. It allows for abortion in the case of medical emergency or complicating medical condition. Ectopic pregnancies would seem to fall under that.  
 

This bill is stupid and counterproductive. Much better reduction strategy is to address aspects related to abortion that the vast majority of reasonable people can agree on. But our politics are totally fn broken. 

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40 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

The next logical step is for a blue state to issue $10k bounties for turning in anti-vaxxers, correct?

Dead or alive.

3 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

Cue the Huffines tweet in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1.

38 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

The next logical step is for a blue state to issue $10k bounties for turning in anti-vaxxers, correct?

Ohio has a mixed history and is currently red but, man, I could make $20K tomorrow. At least $10K because I have one douchebag on video.

But really, all that would do is create a bigger market for fake vaccine cards. 

11 hours ago, Satchel said:

 

While they’re at it, they should resurrect the policy requiring husbands to co-sign a wife’s right to obtain a credit card in her name.

That’s just common sense 

In addition to the best music, Satan also has the best attorneys.

26 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Cue the Huffines tweet in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1.

HEK293T, the cell line being referred to is a kidney cell line that, while originating from tissue sourced from an aborted fetus in the 1970s, has been propagated over the last 50 years and at this point is not and contains no fetal tissue.  It is not an ESC line as was suggested up thread, and the cell line at this point is used in the development (most commonly testing process as it is a good line to express proteins such as receptors) for too many products for Huffines to tweet about.  Components of his perfume was probably tested in a process that included HEK293T.  

 

Just another example of how dysfunctional all the rhetoric around the topic is.  

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Again, this is your fetus at six weeks. It’s about the size of your thumb tip. You can see vestigial gills from our fish ancestors and a lizard-like spine/tail from our reptilian ancestors. It has no functioning brain. It’s not a person. The Lord your God hasn’t breathed the “breath of life” into it yet, as described in your scriptures. If you plucked it out from its mother’s womb, we don’t possess the technology to make it survive. If you support this law then you are ignorant of both your own scripture and of biological science. You know just enough to be dangerous to other people and Heaven forbid that you just mind your own fucking business. Until your teenage daughter gets knocked up by the guy from the wrong side of the tracks and then, if you have the means, you’ll take her out of state to get an abortion because you don’t want to “ruin three lives.”

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1 hour ago, hookem2010 said:

Remember how we all joked about how shitty 2020 was, as if it were some sort of aberration? And now 2021 is trying to equal it. I'm pretty sure that after a couple centuries where there was a trajectory of general improvement in human life, we are now on the downturn. It really is something to witness, although I would rather have experienced it a few more decades into my life.

Well, if you look at society and humans living in society through the prism of Gartner’s hype cycle, we are in the trough of disillusionment. We will bounce back a bit to find some marginal net improvements. Glass a quarter full.

Just now, DonkeyCigars said:

Well, if you look at society and humans living in society through the prism of Gartner’s hype cycle, we are in the trough of disillusionment. We will bounce back a bit to find some marginal net improvements. Glass a quarter full.

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10 hours ago, workswithseed said:

Thanks for the drawing of yourself, but you should keep it to yourself.

Not funny 

8 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

Anti-abortion folks are the vegans of the right 

WTF?

 

6 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

How long until Abbott/Paxton try to station DPS troopers near the roads/highways that head into Oklahoma towns with abortion clinics?

Cops already do that to bust Texans that drive out of state to buy weed.

 

 

Just the tip of the spear.  America's version of the Taliban is firmly in control in Texas, subverting the fundamental elements of our democracy, coupled with an uncaring populace happily accepting its demise.  With national out of touch progressives trumpeting socialist agenda, centrist democrats hand wringing and scared to use the marginal power they have, gotta give Texas republicans credit; they aren't scared to use power.  In this day and age, hyperbole may only be the language of the the day, but what happens when hyperbole ceases to be hyperbole and becomes reality.  At present course, we need only to look to Afghanistan to see our future. Brisket is right.

 

7 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Where do the anti-abortionists think the soul of the aborted embryo or fetus (or stillborn) goes? Wouldn’t it go to Heaven?

 

well, if the fetus hasn't accepted jesus christ as its lord and savior and repented, its going to hell, (or purgatory I guess if you are Catholic?)

 

 

 

12 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

do all these assholes getting the regeneron-whatever-its-called treatment realize that it was developed using embryonic stem cells?

 

 

4 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

 

50 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

HEK293T, the cell line being referred to is a kidney cell line that, while originating from tissue sourced from an aborted fetus in the 1970s, has been propagated over the last 50 years and at this point is not and contains no fetal tissue.  It is not an ESC line as was suggested up thread, and the cell line at this point is used in the development (most commonly testing process as it is a good line to express proteins such as receptors) for too many products for Huffines to tweet about.  Components of his perfume was probably tested in a process that included HEK293T.  

 

Just another example of how dysfunctional all the rhetoric around the topic is.  

 

Were they not stem cells? If not, my bad. I should have googled first.

Also, sorry, I should have said "fetal" instead of "embryonic", but really what's a few weeks?

 

Otherwise, I think "originating from tissue sourced from an aborted fetus in the 70s and propagated over 50 years that at this point contains no fetal tissue" is really not that different from "developed with the help of aborted fetal tissue" or "developed using embryonic fetal stem cells".

An abortion is an abortion, a murder of an unborn child is a murder of an unborn child. Using tissue from an aborted fetus is using tissue from an aborted fetus. Are you hung up on the 50 years?

 

edited to add: I mean, is this not the official thread of abortion demagoguery?

 

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35 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Again, this is your fetus at six weeks. It’s about the size of your thumb tip. You can see vestigial gills from our fish ancestors and a lizard-like spine/tail from our reptilian ancestors. It has no functioning brain. It’s not a person. The Lord your God hasn’t breathed the “breath of life” into it yet, as described in your scriptures. If you plucked it out from its mother’s womb, we don’t possess the technology to make it survive. If you support this law then you are ignorant of both your own scripture and of biological science. You know just enough to be dangerous to other people and Heaven forbid that you just mind your own fucking business. Until your teenage daughter gets knocked up by the guy from the wrong side of the tracks and then, if you have the means, you’ll take her out of state to get an abortion because you don’t want to “ruin three lives.”

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This bears severe repetition.

If one is one of those dumbasses that describes themselves as "pro-life," and one plans to defend their position by citing the Bible, they will absolutely fail rather spectacularly. The Bible does not support their position, and one would understand that if they actually read what was in their favored text. The biggest failing religious people have is that they read into their texts things they do not say, and then they ignore what they do say. That's called "reading between the lines without reading the lines." 

8 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

its going to hell, (or purgatory I guess if you are Catholic?)

 

No, purgatory is for sinners. Fetuses are not sinners so they go to limbo. 

 

If there is a point where the lord god has breathed life into it, I would say its at the quickening, which is what, at something like 5 months?

 

1 hour ago, Anastasis said:


I just skimmed sb8. It allows for abortion in the case of medical emergency or complicating medical condition. Ectopic pregnancies would seem to fall under that.  
 

This bill is stupid and counterproductive. Much better reduction strategy is to address aspects related to abortion that the vast majority of reasonable people can agree on. But our politics are totally fn broken. 

I haven’t read deeply into the text of the bill because I don’t feel like getting even more depressed at the state of the world, but who gets to determine what is considered a medical emergency or complication? Can someone still come after your doctor for it and then you use the medical carve out as a defense? If so, that will at least theoretically have a lovely chilling effect on life-saving medical procedures. 

 

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You know, a state pushing the boundaries of Roe is one thing. Souther states do it all the time. But we’ve had a reliable SCOTUS to strike it down a d slap the state’s hand. Now we have a fucking Lydia on the court along with Commanders welcoming it. Our march towards fascism picks up speed. 

2 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

The next logical step is for a blue state to issue $10k bounties for turning in anti-vaxxers, correct?

People buying guns. 

Just now, SubliminalHorn said:

You know, a state pushing the boundaries of Roe is one thing. Souther states do it all the time. But we’ve had a reliable SCOTUS to strike it down a d slap the state’s hand. Now we have a fucking Lydia on the court along with Commanders welcoming it. Our march towards fascism picks up speed. 

Mitch McConnell is better at politics than his counterparts. Trump was kind of the president for four years and appointed three Supreme Court justices. Elections have consequences…so do senate majority leaders. 

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This is largely Ruth Bader Ginsburg's fault.

Egotistical freak.

lol good job Ruth

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