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12 minutes ago, Red Five said:

So, Biden making money out of office and basically retired = bad. Trump and his family all making a shitpot of money while he's in office = good. Is that right? 

Trump gave up his salary while in office so that negates any and all crimes apparently. Although, did they stop reporting to what charities it was being directed after awhile?

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So the right was fond of meeting any criticism of Trump with ORANGE MAN BAD. So I guess it makes sense that their response to anything positive about Biden is COGNITIVE DECLINE MAN BAD!

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Fuck Putin. I wonder what Joe's  strategy  is as he has been very disrespectful of him for the most part. I guess that is more a show for our allies than anything. 

3 hours ago, GRHorn said:

 

 

so like every other job in the US. 

1 hour ago, burntorangebongos said:

Fuck Putin. I wonder what Joe's  strategy  is as he has been very disrespectful of him for the most part. I guess that is more a show for our allies than anything. 

There seems to be some history there. 

Putin fucking with our last 2 elections should have the POTUS pissed off all by itself without factoring in that he likes to assassinate his enemies.

I think Joe should double and triple down on it. I think Joe should get on his soap box and talk about the bounties and talk about Putin being a horrible piece of shit and that we aren't anywhere close to being allies and if they want to test the waters with us and all our allies they are more than welcome to get fucked, because even China would be on our side. 

Joe doesn't like bullies unlike SOME people who praise them, offer them plane rides, and turn the other way when they hurt people.

He's also drawing a distinction between the MAGAts and his base.  The natural instinct to reject Biden and anything he endorses puts them in a position where they will have to choose between him and Putin.

I like the move.

46 minutes ago, immamac said:

I think Joe should double and triple down on it. I think Joe should get on his soap box and talk about the bounties and talk about Putin being a horrible piece of shit and that we aren't anywhere close to being allies and if they want to test the waters with us and all our allies they are more than welcome to get fucked, because even China would be on our side. 

Putin is a piece of shit, but should he get up and talk about stuff that was never corroborated? 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/u-s-commander-intel-still-hasn-t-established-russia-paid-n1240020

 

1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

so on top of everything else you're also a Putin apologist? Ok, comrade.

Just looking for the truth. There are plenty of things to get upset with Putin about. Why should he cite fake news? For the extra CR points? 

32 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Just looking for the truth. There are plenty of things to get upset with Putin about. Why should he cite fake news? For the extra CR points? 

so, how do you know it is fake news, exactly?

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

I for one am shocked that @GRHorn is just asking questions.

For asking a fuck ton of questions, these people sure seem to not learn from the answers.

Just now, Biff Tannen said:

For asking a fuck ton of questions, these people sure seem to not learn from the answers.

that's just it. people like him drop thought nugget farts everywhere and walk away and let everyone else deal with the fallout. a "just asking questions" crop-dusting, if you will

4 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

so, how do you know it is fake news, exactly?

Well I’m going off the head of Us Central Command in September saying he wasn’t convinced. Nothing has been published since then to counter it.

Looks like it was just another example of the media running with some anti Trump stuff and it getting walked back later. This story in particular really hooked a lot of people, including some I have respect for on Twitter etc, but I don’t know why. Maybe because Joe mentioned it in his campaign events even though it was unproven. Whatever.  
 

 

The bounty story was total CIA fucking bullshit. I can't believe some of you guys still fall for that that shit which was a total play at manipulating American involvement in Afghanistan. But when the Russian President calls our President to the turf we line up behind our guy. Geopolitics is hard. 

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wut.

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You're correct that the bounty story dragged along while they investigated and then I recall what GRHorn mentions above being released. So, Biden shouldn't talk about that if he's been briefed on the veracity of the allegation. However, Putin has been the driver behind the killing of several journalists, two lawyers, some political opponents, and a couple of other people. I don't think that's made up. He's not a nice man.

10 hours ago, immamac said:

Apparently Joe Biden called Putin a Murderer and he's all pissed off about it and wants to start a war over it.

Biden calls Putin a killer while Trump said Putin had killer looks. 

7 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

so on top of everything else you're also a Putin apologist? Ok, comrade.

You think our country’s so innocent?

9 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Biden shouldn't talk about that if he's been briefed on the veracity of the allegation.

If Biden has been briefed on the veracity of the allegation, and it is proved out, the appropriate response is maybe more than threatening companies building a pipeline.  But dots are hard for some to connect. 

9 hours ago, elfenix said:

so like every other job in the US. 

 

12 hours ago, GRHorn said:

 

 

Is this where we have an opportunity to fix it with legislation, or pass it on to the taxpayer and look the other way, while using Trump as a convenient yesteryear talking-point of distraction? 

There’s kerfuffle about potsmoking WH staffers being fired after initially being told they were protected. We’ll see how it plays out but I’m here for the memes.

 

Until it’s rescheduled, it’s unfortunately still illegal in pre-employment drug screenings. 

Though nude pics are not, in case Melania wants a job 

6 hours ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

You think our country’s so innocent?

Why do you hate America?

 

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NY Times: Did Yeltsin Get a Sweetheart Deal on I.M.F. Loans

 

With Mr. Yeltsin trailing in his bid for re-election in June, his bluster toward the fund was no doubt shaped in part by a desire to be seen at home as the man who can wring aid and concessions from the West.

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The pattern seemed different, though, as the fund negotiated and then reached agreement on a three-year, $10.2 billion loan package with Russia last month, raising questions about whether Moscow was getting special treatment.

President Boris N. Yeltsin bragged to Russian voters that he had used his influence with Western leaders to make sure that the I.M.F. treated his country right.

Far from steeling the country for further budget cuts, Mr. Yeltsin announced that some of the cash would be used to help with huge unpaid wage bills the Government owed workers, one of the Russian leader's most sensitive political problems.

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In the United States and in Europe, though, some foreign policy analysts saw the loan agreement as motivated in part by a desire to support Mr. Yeltsin against Communist and nationalist rivals who are hostile to market-oriented economic reform.

Some even suggested that the fund was effectively helping to finance the war in Chechnya by giving economic succor to Mr. Yeltsin at a time when the military bill was biting deeply into the budget.

Saying the loan was "an implicit vote in favor of candidate Yeltsin," the French newspaper Le Monde editorialized that "the West is playing a dangerous game" and that there was "neither the urgency nor the necessity for a gesture so spectacular."

Officials outside the monetary fund who deal with international economic assistance programs said any deal with Russia would necessarily be a special case, especially given the country's strategic importance to the United States and the other big industrialized democracies that provide most of the fund's money.

American officials said they did not seek to use the fund to conduct foreign policy. Yet while officials of the fund were still negotiating with Moscow early this year, President Clinton stated publicly that the United States, the fund's biggest contributor, wanted the deal to happen -- undermining the I.M.F.'s bargaining power with Russia in the process, officials outside the fund said.

"I believe the loan will go through, and I believe that it should," Mr. Clinton said during a visit by the Russian Prime Minister, Viktor S. Chernomyrdin, to Washington in January.

NY Times: Did Yeltsin Get a Sweetheart Deal on I.M.F. Loans

 

Putin is a shitbird thug. We interfere in ways we would never accept if done to us. Always has been, always will be. News at 11.

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3 hours ago, Fletch said:

God damn dude how shitty of a person are you? We already know your IQ hovers around 80.  

How does me pointing out that the bounty story was never proven confirm my shittiness?

Low IQ take there Fletch. 

So, Biden making money out of office and basically retired = bad. Trump and his family all making a shitpot of money while he's in office = good. Is that right? 


Im pretty sure Trump lost money during his presidency. Like $700M or so.
14 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

How does me pointing out that the bounty story was never proven confirm my shittiness?

Low IQ take there Fletch. 

I haven't seen confirmation of the story other than the reporting of intelligence agencies tracking large electronic transfers from Russia to known Taliban members.  Seems like most of that reporting was from June and July.  A department official saying otherwise in September is also very close to election time fodder.  I don't know and won't pretend that I do.  But the political bolstering could go both ways.  It's still odd that Trump was so reluctant to acknowledge it publicly.  I'm sure everyone could at least agree that it's worthy of a statement from the president.  Did Trump ever make a statement on that issue?  

12 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

 


Im pretty sure Trump lost money during his presidency. Like $700M or so.

 

That makes his Trump properties grift even more impressive. Dude fleeced anyone he could and still lost 700 million? 

8 minutes ago, Chooky said:

  But the political bolstering could go both ways. 

It could and it does. But as the intel regarding election/social media and the Cambridge Analytica (which essentially reorganized) was further revealed, thanks to Trump/Putin the door was opened wide to interference (remember Barr and Pompeo jet setting prior to November doing what exactly?) and it is going to lead to no end of headaches. The former administration did not completely sit on their hands with respect to Russia--there were quite a few sanctions, statements, and even indictments over the last four years. But specifically, there didn't appear (to me) to be quite enough response to Russian aggression against adjacent independent countries or working with totalitarian regimes (such as Ukraine) when the citizens protested against a faux election.

Actually, I got that wrong. I mean Belarus, not Ukraine--but Russia was a malefactor with them as well. A little difficult, because foreign policy is a dance, but Russia looks the other way when it comes to violating human rights during election protests.

1 hour ago, Chooky said:

I haven't seen confirmation of the story other than the reporting of intelligence agencies tracking large electronic transfers from Russia to known Taliban members.  Seems like most of that reporting was from June and July.  A department official saying otherwise in September is also very close to election time fodder.  I don't know and won't pretend that I do.  But the political bolstering could go both ways.  It's still odd that Trump was so reluctant to acknowledge it publicly.  I'm sure everyone could at least agree that it's worthy of a statement from the president.  Did Trump ever make a statement on that issue?  

That’s kind of underselling it. 

Department Official=Head of US Central Command 

As close to a definitive, non partisan assessment as you will find. 
 

I guess maybe some people here have trouble dealing with the fact that the media is utilized by portions of the bureaucracy to disseminate the info that they please. Whether confirmed to be true or not. 

1 hour ago, Buzzrock said:

 


Im pretty sure Trump lost money during his presidency. Like $700M or so.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/politics/forbes-400-donald-trump-wealth/index.html
 

Trump lost money because of the pandemic. Hospitality business. Probably should of tried to stop the pandemic a little harder instead of pretending it didn’t exist. 
 

We also don’t know exactly how much he lost because his net worth is pretty much smoke and mirrors. Cohen testified he used to make up numbers to get Trump high on these Forbes lists and shit. Plus he undervalues his property on taxes to pay less. So it would take an independent auditor to fully evaluate his true net worth 

Your money is his money in Trump World. You lose money, he makes money. You make money, he makes money.

"Then there's copper...it costs money. It costs money because it saves money."

1 hour ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Loves Trump. AND THE TRUTH!

new plan: negging every post you make. 

Username references Outkast, but lame AF. 
 

Negging every post. 

If folks really care about the truth, they should check in on Walter Shaub's twitter account. He was the former head of the Office of Government Ethics, and he was not a friend of the Trump administration for the violations, but he's losing followers because he holds the Biden administration to the same standard. I absolutely support the rank and file civil servants who do just that: serve the public and the country in holding leaders and their people accountable for their actions on behalf of the country and its citizens.

Another official who doesn't get a lot of press is Ellen Weintraub, the FEC commissioner.

4 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

the origination of my handle is awesome and you know it.

Yes. Which makes your lameness all the more unfortunate. 

7 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Yes. Which makes your lameness all the more unfortunate. 

I loathe you because you’re a complete hypocrite. You don’t give a single flying fuck about any of the actions you currently perceive as objectionable from this administration. I know this because you never made a single objection when the previous administration took similar actions (X10) and you never said a word.

you aren’t a serious person. You’re a hack. And you’ll drink my neg.

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