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Just now, elfenix said:

TIL a private corporation is socialism

Socialism is a catchall term for anything a conservative doesn't agree with.

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10 minutes ago, elfenix said:

TIL a private corporation is socialism

You forget that socialism enforces taxes with a gun. Can people in corporations do that?

1 minute ago, workswithseed said:

You forget that socialism enforces taxes with a gun. Can people in corporations do that?

you should ask tahoe mixty donkey

Just now, elfenix said:

you should ask tahoe mixty donkey

Why won't you answer? I asked you, since you believe that businesses run like socialists. Can CEO use physical force to make their workers do something they don't want to do?

1 minute ago, workswithseed said:

You forget that socialism enforces taxes with a gun. Can people in corporations do that?

Yes, insofar as corporations use the state to enforce contracts.

2 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Why won't you answer? I asked you, since you believe that businesses run like socialists. Can CEO use physical force to make their workers do something they don't want to do?

 

Just now, David Dennison said:

Yes, insofar as corporations use the state to enforce contracts.

Everyone is on a contract? Hell, you can read a contract before you sign on.

Just now, workswithseed said:

Everyone is on a contract? Hell, you can read a contract before you sign on.

That's what you took away from what I said?

1 minute ago, elfenix said:

 

Hell, I don't believe people are inherently good, its why I liked it, but that still didn't answer my original question. Can CEO force you to do something you don't want to?

12 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

You forget that socialism enforces taxes with a gun. Can people in corporations do that?

Let's try this again: yes, insofar as capitalism enforces its will through the state.

3 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Hell, I don't believe people are inherently good, its why I liked it, but that still didn't answer my original question. Can CEO force you to do something you don't want to?

read the post.  the whole post.

Just now, David Dennison said:

That's what you took away from what I said?

That people can sign an agreement to contract, and make clauses if they want to for any reason break it before they sign it. You still have leverage before you agree.

Just now, workswithseed said:

That people can sign an agreement to contract, and make clauses if they want to for any reason break it before they sign it. You still have leverage before you agree.

Tell that to people who can't pay their medical bills.

3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Tell that to people who can't pay their medical bills.

I'll wait till we figure out the VA.

1 hour ago, workswithseed said:

You forget that socialism enforces taxes with a gun. Can people in corporations do that?

What? You think taxes are only associated with socialism? Pretty much every form of government, with any number of economic systems, has a system of taxation. And pretty much ever government will use force to enforce its will. 

1 hour ago, workswithseed said:

Why won't you answer? I asked you, since you believe that businesses run like socialists. Can CEO use physical force to make their workers do something they don't want to do?

Can a CEO use physical force to make their workers do something they do want to do? Yes, they've literally done it (e.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinkerton_(detective_agency)). Is it legal for them do so? Depends on the specific actions. Sometimes yes, sometimes (usually) no.  Again, do you think physical force is somehow unique to socialism? Do you have any idea what socialism is? 

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lol y’all responding to workswithseed and donkeycigars

7 hours ago, DonkeyCigars said:

So how is everyone doing today? Re-hydrated and well-rested and in better moods, I hope.

 

7 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

“It’s not me, it’s you” is an interesting tack. 

I thought of you when I read this:

Take the opening of Meditations (Marcus Aurelius, of course): “When you wake up in the morning, tell yourself: The people I deal with today will be meddling, ungrateful, arrogant, dishonest, jealous, and surly.

 

23 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

He just became the first user on my ignore list.

 

14 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Why I have him on ignore.

 

My brothers.

 

Everyone else, stop fucking quoting that shit bag. Fuck.

 

 

 

On 7/5/2021 at 7:35 PM, JimmyJames said:

Nobody thinks July 4 is racist. Plenty of people think that republicans are dumbasses though and those Republican dumbasses think that people are cancel culturing July 4 because those republican dumbasses are in fact racist dipshits. 
 

I just spent July 4 in trump country and the n word was flying around like you wouldn’t believe. That and the Trump flags. 
 

You would have felt at home if you were not just a troll. 

You didn't stand for such behavior, did you? Please tell me you stood up to these people!

8 hours ago, immortal13 said:

You didn't stand for such behavior, did you? Please tell me you stood up to these people!

I don’t go on vacation with friends and other people they may know to get into political fights with racists because unlike trumpkins like yourself, I’m not a fucking moron. I’m sure you would have kicked all their asses though.

So basically you're a pussy who is afraid to stand up for what you believe in. Got it

Goes on a post-vaccination vacation to Trump country to spend time with rando racists on July 4th?

Get your shit together Jimmy.  

4 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Goes on a post-vaccination vacation to Trump country to spend time with rando racists on July 4th?

Get your shit together Jimmy.  

Yeah it was kinda dumb but I wanted to do some fishing so what are ya gonna do. I guess I should’ve kicked everyone’s ass on the boat but that would of scared off the fish. 

1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

 

Sounds like someone didn’t get invited to any July 4th parties. Poor little guy. 

Didn’t see any better thread to place this. 

 

10 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Didn’t see any better thread to place this. 

 

Saw that today too. We are so god damn dumb. 

1 hour ago, GRHorn said:

Didn’t see any better thread to place this. 

 

When digging deeper into these polls, we learn that respondents report feeling safe in their neighborhoods, they just know that crime is really bad out there somewhere.

32 minutes ago, Satchel said:

When digging deeper into these polls, we learn that respondents report feeling safe in their neighborhoods, they just know that crime is really bad out there somewhere.

Republicans are thinking about the criminal immigrants (who will all vote Democrat illegally in their minds), and Democrats are thinking about the criminal republicans plotting domestic terrorism. 

20 hours ago, immortal13 said:

You didn't stand for such behavior, did you? Please tell me you stood up to these people!

What a fucking shocker that Jimmer keeps finding himself around N bombs being dropped repeatedly.
 

I think I’m gonna call bullshit though. I’m a conservative guy, from small town Texas and I can’t remember the last time I heard the N word dropped in conversation. But Jimmer, the guy that likes to drop the N word on CR can’t escape it. 🤔 I bet they were all wearing maga hats while they were being hardcore racist too!!!

11 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Goes on a post-vaccination vacation to Trump country to spend time with rando racists on July 4th?

Get your shit together Jimmy.  

He’s completely full of shit or his posting history here is projection. Those are the options. Pretty simple. What a joke. But he’ll get a pass here. Thanks Jimmy for telling us how racist all those yokels are that you hang out with? Wtf. 

2 hours ago, GRHorn said:

What a fucking shocker that Jimmer keeps finding himself around N bombs being dropped repeatedly.
 

I think I’m gonna call bullshit though. I’m a conservative guy, from small town Texas and I can’t remember the last time I heard the N word dropped in conversation. But Jimmer, the guy that likes to drop the N word on CR can’t escape it. 🤔 I bet they were all wearing maga hats while they were being hardcore racist too!!!

He’s completely full of shit or his posting history here is projection. Those are the options. Pretty simple. What a joke. But he’ll get a pass here. Thanks Jimmy for telling us how racist all those yokels are that you hang out with? Wtf. 

Another alternative is I can’t completely control who I encounter and I don’t look for and cause a fight when I do. It’s easier I admit to deal with racists like you on a message board.
 

Given where you claim to be from, who you hang with, and your support for trump. It’s much more likely that you are the liar here. Your posting history supports that of course.

11 hours ago, Satchel said:

When digging deeper into these polls, we learn that respondents report feeling safe in their neighborhoods, they just know that crime is really bad out there somewhere.

This. “Those places” are so scary. What places? 

They can’t tell you. Doesn’t help the media is sensationalizing crime like it’s the mid-90s again. 

On 7/6/2021 at 2:38 PM, workswithseed said:

That people can sign an agreement to contract, and make clauses if they want to for any reason break it before they sign it. You still have leverage before you agree.

Have you ever been diagnosed with a learning disability?

36 minutes ago, Js1 said:

This. “Those places” are so scary. What places? 

They can’t tell you. Doesn’t help the media is sensationalizing crime like it’s the mid-90s again. 

They used this exact play leading up to the election.  

48 minutes ago, Js1 said:

This. “Those places” are so scary. What places? 

They can’t tell you. Doesn’t help the media is sensationalizing crime like it’s the mid-90s again. 

Chicago. Duh. Always Chicago.

12 hours ago, GRHorn said:

I’m a conservative guy, from small town Texas and I can’t remember the last time I heard the N word dropped in conversation.

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He doesn't remember it because it happens so often around him it's not memorable. Like how fish don't notice water or how aggy doesn't notice the latent homosexuality in everything they do.

I would like to congratulate Joe Biden for creating the greatest economy the world has ever seen.

 

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Edited by Incredulity

So when the market rises again—he's a-ok then?

12 hours ago, GRHorn said:

I think I’m gonna call bullshit though. I’m a conservative guy, from small town Texas and I can’t remember the last time I heard the N word dropped in conversation.

Obviously everyone's experiences differ, but mine tracks with yours (aside from my own personal politics). Professionally, among family, and among fellow gun/hunting/sporting types, I am around conservatives and I NEVER hear the n-word or even much obvious/explicit racism.

It's likely class-based, because when I do hear it, it is not people within my group and they are usually lower on the economic rung.

My set doesn't need to resort to such crass stuff to ensure racial dominance.

15 hours ago, GRHorn said:

Didn’t see any better thread to place this. 

 

The answer if you don't want to defund police and you want to feel safe (note I said feel, which is an emotional state and not always representative of reality), then you just get a divorce apparently:

https://nypost.com/2021/06/18/atlanta-community-moves-to-separate-from-city-amid-crime-spike/

Ritzy Atlanta community moves to separate from city amid crime spike

 

Edited by DonkeyCigars

On 7/5/2021 at 9:38 PM, DonkeyCigars said:

My belief is people are not inherently altruistic and when it comes to making tough economic decisions about allocation of personal or shared resources in a world of scarcity, there will naturally be conflict. That conflict can be managed through a centrally planned power (communism) or it can meet the lowest common denominator of consensus (in the surfside case, this was inaction) which is always going to be an inferior overall situation for particular individuals of means and capabilities, but perhaps a better minimum for the group than would be for the worst individual, otherwise.

https://slate.com/business/2021/06/miami-condo-collapse-florida-building-industry-crisis.html

In other words, it's your classic utilitarianism vs libertarianism. You know, basic freshman year stuff.

I am sure that if the local authorities in Surfside had condemned the building and thrown out all the tenants based just on some pointy-headed city bureaucrat's safety report you would most certainly not call those authorities over-reaching nanny state socialists or commies. 

1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

I would like to congratulate Joe Biden for creating the greatest economy the world has ever seen.

 

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1 minute ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

guess ole Joe is doing a bang-up job since he hasn't been mentioned in two pages

 

1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

I would like to congratulate Joe Biden for creating the greatest economy the world has ever seen.

 

Dow Jones Industrial Average

34,217.39
1.34%
-464.40 Today
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Jul 8, 10:43:21 AM UTC-4 · INDEXDJX · Disclaimer

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I would like to congratulate Joe Biden for creating the greatest economy the world has ever seen.
 

Dow Jones Industrial Average

34,217.39 1.34% -464.40 Today INDEX Jul 8, 10:43:21 AM UTC-4 · INDEXDJX · Disclaimer

Thats not even 1/4 of a Trump.

A Trump is when the Dow drops 2000 points in a single day from instability
9 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:

A Trump is when the Dow drops 2000 points in a single day from pandemic

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