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12 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Ha. Zaslov basically ran the Warner Bros/Discovery merged company into the ground (while paying himself $100s of millions from shareholder value), and now he's effectively spinning off the pieces that are dragging down the company. And keeping the profitable areas for himself to run.

Warner Bros. Discovery to split into two public companies by next year

I don't hate him for putting so much money in his pocket but rather pointing out how boards fail to protect shareholders against strong CEOs. It's a big flaw in the public company space.

Regardless good news for shareholders that a good portion of their holdings will be separated from him.

He completely bumblefucked a ton of media properties that were producing revenue, just so that he could get some extra tax breaks. He's the consummate finance asshole that finally got the nod to lead, and then fucked up all their long-term value chasing get-richer-quicker schemes. It's pretty impressive 

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i hit buy, was told market was closed, order would be filled at open, israel decides to start a war, market opens lower, order filled a few percent less than what i thought it would be.  yes!  great bombing guys!

59 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

How am I supposed to lose money on the market when it is closed?

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So what’s the consensus on the next buy opportunity for palantir …. the trading multiples are so fucking stupid but the stock is going to go way higher over the next 5 years I’m pretty sure we all know that.  
 

thoughts on waiting for another dip? 

15 hours ago, Wally Fairway said:

How am I supposed to lose money on the market when it is closed?

Side bets with the Surly 1%?

15 hours ago, Wally Fairway said:

How am I supposed to lose money on the market when it is closed?

 

 


I have a trailing stop order set at 10%. Floor at $103 currently.

What shall I do with the proceeds? Duh! Load up on IBRX! (Am I doing this right?)

Ended up triggering the order to sell at $117. Felt pretty good about it for a couple of weeks. Now, I haz ragrets.

SPY all time high maybe tomorrow.  What a ride over the last couple months. 

LE you need to change the name of this thread to "Holy Shit, Markets Rising Like WTF"!!

I wanted to come here in and post gains porn, but I’m just gonna say great month, somehow better week.

8 hours ago, Frank Drebin said:

Only people who get hurt on a rollercoaster are those who jump off.

Never heard this before, I like it.

EDIT: “Only people who get thrown up on are behind you“ is something I probably said on a boat party in 2009-2011

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17 minutes ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

It seems all the panic fueled maniacs have gone back in their closet. I look forward to seeing them again when the market does more market things.

So at the top of the thread there is this link to most active days. You can click on the date do the timewarp. Kinda funny to backtest a few things. 

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I’m takin’ gainz on Monday and throwing a yuuuge July 4 party for all my Surly friends.  Tell me what you want for:

food

drink

drugs

band

No budget.  Let’s go nuts.

44 minutes ago, Parliament said:

I’m takin’ gainz on Monday and throwing a yuuuge July 4 party for all my Surly friends.  Tell me what you want for:

food

drink

drugs

band

wimmen

No budget.  Let’s go nuts.

 

3 hours ago, Parliament said:

I’m takin’ gainz on Monday and throwing a yuuuge July 4 party for all my Surly friends.  Tell me what you want for:

food

drink

drugs

band

No budget.  Let’s go nuts.

No hookers. Would not attend.

19 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

I wanted to come here in and post gains porn, but I’m just gonna say great month, somehow better week.

Joe Biden doing work.  Wonder if he’s even aware?

On 6/27/2025 at 6:28 PM, StassneyHorn said:

Never heard this before, I like it.

EDIT: “Only people who get thrown up on are behind you“ is something I probably said on a boat party in 2009-2011

My wife likes to freak out about portfolio gains and losses.  I don't care much either way.  I have a long runway and probably 75% of my investments are in income producing real property and ranch property.  In the market, I just invest and forget about it.

But she loves to check our porfolio and freak out about losses.  I always think of this scene from Boiler Room when my wife texts me about a day's market losses:

Greg Weinstein: Now there’s two rules you have to remember as a trainee, number one, we don’t pitch the bitch here.


Seth Davis: What?


Greg Weinstein: We don’t sell stock to women. I don’t care who it is, we don’t do it. Nancy Sinatra calls, you tell her you’re sorry. They’re a constant pain in the ass and you’re never going to hear the end of it alright? They’re going to call you every fucking day wanting to know why the stock is dropping and God forbid the stock should go up, you’re going to hear from them every fucking 15 minutes. It’s just not worth it, don’t pitch the bitch.

1 hour ago, Frank Drebin said:

My wife likes to freak out about portfolio gains and losses.  I don't care much either way.  I have a long runway and probably 75% of my investments are in income producing real property and ranch property.  In the market, I just invest and forget about it.

But she loves to check our porfolio and freak out about losses.  I always think of this scene from Boiler Room when my wife texts me about a day's market losses:

Greg Weinstein: Now there’s two rules you have to remember as a trainee, number one, we don’t pitch the bitch here.


Seth Davis: What?


Greg Weinstein: We don’t sell stock to women. I don’t care who it is, we don’t do it. Nancy Sinatra calls, you tell her you’re sorry. They’re a constant pain in the ass and you’re never going to hear the end of it alright? They’re going to call you every fucking day wanting to know why the stock is dropping and God forbid the stock should go up, you’re going to hear from them every fucking 15 minutes. It’s just not worth it, don’t pitch the bitch.

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On 3/31/2025 at 3:57 PM, Captainant said:

dangerous bet, going against State media. They might be the only folks with a broadcast license before long

lol.  That’s rich 

I thought this was the tread where markets are falling?  

The excitement and glee that is getting back to where Biden handed off the market is indeed fascinating to me.  You would have thought that the market actually had risen dramatically?  I definitely lost some of my unreal early gains betting against Trump's tariffs, and the taco trade has been very strong.  It will be interesting for me to see the number of trade deals that will be on the books after the July 4th weekend?  But you will most likely not hear much talk from the administration on actual progress, beyond proclamations of success with unsigned deals.   

 

The S&P closed out January up 2.7%, today the S&P is up 4.96% for the year... so kicking ass right?

 

 

finally had a sell order executed on BE.  I bought it like 5 years ago.  it would jump every 6 months then slowly peter out.  had to watch it go down into maybe 60% loss territory or something again.  i had two consecutive 60 day limits up.  it executed at the end of the second one.  i'm out, up by a percent or two for the whole thing.  feels good to just get my money back on this one.

1 hour ago, horn4life said:

I thought this was the tread where markets are falling?  

The excitement and glee that is getting back to where Biden handed off the market is indeed fascinating to me.  You would have thought that the market actually had risen dramatically?  I definitely lost some of my unreal early gains betting against Trump's tariffs, and the taco trade has been very strong.  It will be interesting for me to see the number of trade deals that will be on the books after the July 4th weekend?  But you will most likely not hear much talk from the administration on actual progress, beyond proclamations of success with unsigned deals.   

 

The S&P closed out January up 2.7%, today the S&P is up 4.96% for the year... so kicking ass right?

 

 

too simplistic.  it's a market of a hundred million moving pieces.  don't be tricked into thinking credit/blame is any specific thing or person.  you're too invested on politics and insist on seeing stuff through that lens.

1 hour ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

too simplistic.  it's a market of a hundred million moving pieces.  don't be tricked into thinking credit/blame is any specific thing or person.  you're too invested on politics and insist on seeing stuff through that lens.

I think chaos for the sake of chaos and insider trading is the issue. Stable gains were too slow for some people. 

1 hour ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

too simplistic.  it's a market of a hundred million moving pieces.  don't be tricked into thinking credit/blame is any specific thing or person.  you're too invested on politics and insist on seeing stuff through that lens.

For me seeing a 2.7% gain in a month, and and average of .45% increases for 5 months has nothing to do with politics.  It more my confusion with the glee of a pace of 6% annual returns that has me scratching my head.  Back to even... is not political, it's math.  

Hard to say tariffs (political) are not a big part of the uncertainty, so yes, politics are necessarily part of the calculation.   But simply stating that we are not going to have the deals promised is well, is simply accurate math.  This market could still run more, as FOMO and TACO are powerful forces.  

If you jumped in when the market collapsed, then you are kicking ass.  But would you be jumping in bigly now looking forward? 

 

30 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

also true.   i've no doubt that people are trading off the "tariffs on/tariffs off" pattern.  you know about that 30 minutes ahead of time and you make millions.

I would say that the most likely probability, is that the members of this administration have made more money in a shorter period of time than any in our nation's history.   What would be most useful is to knowing the timing of the retreats on tariff policies, as that is where the real money has been made.  Unless you shorted before liberation day, like me.  

 

it will be interesting to see how it will all play out.  I certainly did not think the TACO trade would be so consistent.  I really thought the administration was going to stick to it's guns more. 

I will be very curious to see if tariff tax rates, indeed do bounce back to liberation day, for all those who do not have signed trade agreements? Or will it be another episode of the TACO series?  Seems like the market is betting on TACO pretty strongly.

 

 

23 minutes ago, horn4life said:

I will be very curious to see if tariff tax rates, indeed do bounce back to liberation day, for all those who do not have signed trade agreements? Or will it be another episode of the TACO series?  Seems like the market is betting on TACO pretty strongly.

The market wants to be high because the market wants to be high, I guess.  

Trump is doing his best to be friendly with Canadians by asking them to give us their country, which is really complementary when you step back and think about it. I have it on good advice that we don’t need Canada and Canada is entirely dependent on us.    Why waste time thinking about that when the market is doing so well?

Snark aside, I look forward to July 10.

6 hours ago, horn4life said:

It more my confusion with the glee of a pace of 6% annual returns that has me scratching my head.

“How can anyone be happy with a moderate gain when we all thought the market was royally fucked?”

 

23 hours ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

finally had a sell order executed on BE.  I bought it like 5 years ago.  it would jump every 6 months then slowly peter out.  had to watch it go down into maybe 60% loss territory or something again.  i had two consecutive 60 day limits up.  it executed at the end of the second one.  i'm out, up by a percent or two for the whole thing.  feels good to just get my money back on this one.

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Decoupled s&p 500 and DJIA yesterday with DJIA having a great day and S&P red.  Hope that doesn’t portend things to come since all my money is SPY basically. 

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8 hours ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

Decoupled s&p 500 and DJIA yesterday with DJIA having a great day and S&P red.  Hope that doesn’t portend things to come since all my money is SPY basically. 

DJIA is antiquated, it doesn't track anything but itself

On 6/30/2025 at 7:57 AM, horn4life said:

The S&P closed out January up 2.7%, today the S&P is up 4.96% for the year... so kicking ass right?

Over 7% YTD now. The market doesn't deal in logic and reason. 

11 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Over 7% YTD now. The market doesn't deal in logic and reason. 

the market is a million investors trying to play along with a million arbitrage bots vs ecomomic influences all rolled up in a global political military complex, sometimes interrupted natural disaster. 

Goo luck figuring that out

19 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

the market is a million investors trying to play along with a million arbitrage bots vs ecomomic influences all rolled up in a global political military complex, sometimes interrupted natural disaster. 

Goo luck figuring that out

Scream YOLO while buying and selling ZERO DTE options....

 

duh.

7 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

The USD has lost 10.8% of its value since the start of 2025. 

I assume you’re referring to the USDX? Isn’t this what Bessent et al want in order to make US trade more competitive? 

On 7/3/2025 at 11:05 AM, Wally Fairway said:

the market is a million investors trying to play along with a million arbitrage bots vs ecomomic influences all rolled up in a global political military complex, sometimes interrupted natural disaster. 

Goo luck figuring that out

 

well... right now it seems the primary factors in the US markets are FOMO and TACO.     I don't think anyone realized how strong the underlying economy really was coming into 2025.  At some point the tariffs will be implemented.  Because we are not seeing any deals actually negotiated and signed.  As when one side has both demands that cannot be met combined, with a retreat from enforcement why not wait for the next retreat when negotiating?  Right?

The 90 day extension to negotiate 90 deals in 90 days was going to be the result of shock and awe economic uncertainty.   So no signed deals? None? after 90 days? 

I guess the real question is will there be a point where TACO is no longer effective?

On 7/5/2025 at 9:57 PM, washparkhorn said:

The USD has lost 10.8% of its value since the start of 2025. 

As our policies have made the US a less secure and a less desirable place to invest,  investors are simply choosing to put their money into assets other than the US dollar.  This is an under the radar trend that has long term consequences.  

 

Ride the FOMO/TACO trade as long as you can!  And have your stops in place. I figure the run will come to a halt mid August.  But the TACO trade I suppose could be endless, and the can repeatedly kicked down the road?  You would have thought the market would be bracing for tariff enforcement after the 90 day pause, right now, but TACO is now the norm.  The market is pricing in TACO now.  So it will be interesting to see what happens if the TACO policy is ever reversed and the tariff taxes promised are actually implemented.

21 hours ago, Parliament said:

And debt repayment easier.

Repayment?  Or did you mean never ending installment payments on an ever growing balance?  

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1 hour ago, horn4life said:

 I don't think anyone realized how strong the underlying economy really was coming into 2025.

Almost like there was a concerted effort to overrule empirical reality with rhetoric and propaganda, or something 

1 hour ago, Captainant said:

Almost like there was a concerted effort to overrule empirical reality with rhetoric and propaganda, or something 

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