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The clause extending the agreement to 20 years after death of the last current descendant of King Charles was cute, but I would have gone with 20 years after the last child of the current governor or their descendant. I suppose charles’ grandkids are a bit younger than DeSantis but it would pack a better punch.

but seriously, it’s bs if any govt agency can build in irrevocable stipulations that have a ~100 year shelf life. Would everyone here be accepting if Abbott started enacting 100 year laws or administrative orders that couldn’t be changed?

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3 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Would everyone here be accepting if Abbott started enacting 100 year laws or administrative orders that couldn’t be changed?

He signs laws and administrative orders all the time that have no expiration date. 

1 minute ago, South Austin said:

He signs laws and administrative orders all the time that have no expiration date. 

But those can be overturned by future governors and/or legislatures if not state constitution votes.

Disney is attempting to make their changes irrevocable by future (or now current) reedy creek board members. I like seeing Disney stick it to DeSantis but this is bad govt.

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I like seeing Disney stick it to DeSantis but this is bad govt.

It's Big Government on the part of DeSantis is what it is, and Disney only did this after DeSantis and the State of Florida tried to move in and fuck with them because he was angry about their pro-LGBTQ views. 

DeSantis thought he was going to be able to do things like slow-roll future expansions, shut down any gay pride parades/events, etc., which is the epitome of the Republican Big Government mindset.

2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

It's Big Government on the part of DeSantis is what it is, and Disney only did this after DeSantis and the State of Florida tried to move in and fuck with them because he was angry about their pro-LGBTQ views. 

DeSantis thought he was going to be able to do things like slow-roll future expansions, shut down any gay pride parades/events, etc., which is the epitome of the Republican Big Government mindset.

If you don't think that the far right isn't watching this and will use this tactic as well, you haven't been paying attention.

I understand the necessity for long term laws/policies but it doesn't mean that higher govt officials or agencies shouldn't have the right to alter those laws or policies. I also don't agree that DeSantis should be able to appoint his people to a local board that controls a local district. That's the epitome of tyranny of the majority. 

22 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

If you don't think that the far right isn't watching this and will use this tactic as well, you haven't been paying attention.

I understand the necessity for long term laws/policies but it doesn't mean that higher govt officials or agencies shouldn't have the right to alter those laws or policies. I also don't agree that DeSantis should be able to appoint his people to a local board that controls a local district. That's the epitome of tyranny of the majority. 

I understand your point but the far right will use these tactics any way regardless of what Disney does.  They are the ones who started this shit and decided on a "win at any cost" and fuck decorum trajectory.   You don't bring a knife to a gun fight so now that the gloves are off, it is appropriate to use the exact same tactics.  If they end up defeating them, then good, now we have a road map to defeat their bullshit laws.  If not, them maybe they will tire of the BS and we can go back to treating the political theater as something less than a blood sport. 

17 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:


Disney said, “Fuck me? No, fuck YOU!”

Rarely do I find myself on the side of Big Corp. but I’m this case, DeSantis earned every big of this.

 

Off the top of my head, today's GOP has resulted in me taking the sides of Disney, Nike, and the NFL. I'm sure there are others that I'm forgetting.

Crazy pills.

 

 

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2 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

Off the top of my head, today's GOP has resulted in me taking the sides of Disney, Nike, and the NFL. I'm sure there are others that I'm forgetting.

Liz Cheney.

1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

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trump is a decent artist 

There's no way that a DeSantis voter AND a true Floridian...in a Waffle House...is that articulate.

Try a little harder.

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5 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

If you don't think that the far right isn't watching this and will use this tactic as well, you haven't been paying attention.

I understand the necessity for long term laws/policies but it doesn't mean that higher govt officials or agencies shouldn't have the right to alter those laws or policies. I also don't agree that DeSantis should be able to appoint his people to a local board that controls a local district. That's the epitome of tyranny of the majority. 

These seems like a pretty narrow area of application. As mentioned laws passed are generally in effect unless and until repealed. Can you give us an example where the far right could use this tactic?

1 hour ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

yeah but CRT trans drag queens are trying to teach my child empathy, which is AGAINST MY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS!!!! 

 

hard agree with nbm, it don't make a shit

DeSantis looks like a fool. This was simple. Did he really not have a plan for it?

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12 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

If you don't think that the far right isn't watching this and will use this tactic as well, you haven't been paying attention.

I understand the necessity for long term laws/policies but it doesn't mean that higher govt officials or agencies shouldn't have the right to alter those laws or policies. I also don't agree that DeSantis should be able to appoint his people to a local board that controls a local district. That's the epitome of tyranny of the majority. 

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Nah, some here are acting like the Right in how they only want to see Libs cry but in the opposite direction. 

Yeah but fuck DeSantis. He deserves every bit of embarrassment. Imagine you're a gay teacher in Florida and what you know get to go through because of him. 

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

Yeah but fuck DeSantis. He deserves every bit of embarrassment. Imagine you're a gay teacher in Florida and what you know get to go through because of him. 

I don't like govt agencies deploying perpetual rules (and yes, 100 years is effectively perpetual) but I never mind DeSantis looking like a fool, even more than usual.

Well, this really isn't a government agency. It's a public-private partnership like any special-use district. Disney just took advantage of having better lawyers and set it up so Meatball would have to try something more extreme. He's already threatened more action because of course he can't accept that Disney owned his ass. 

 

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20 hours ago, Bookman said:

DeSantis looks like a fool. This was simple. Did he really not have a plan for it?

The fact that he was out there acting like he'd risk legal repercussions for trying to help Trump avoid indictment while Trump is actively spending money trashing him makes him look like the lowest of the lowest boot lickers.

This is worse than what Trump did to Ted Cruz, including trashing Ted's father and making fun of Heidi's looks and mental health issues.

DeSantis should have been saying "I support President Trump's right to pay off porn stars and I support President Trump's right to have his day in court and I will not stand in the way of President Trump trying to clear himself."

The response from Trump would have been the same regardless of whether DeSantis defended him or took a cheap blow at him.

On 3/30/2023 at 5:31 AM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Would everyone here be accepting if Abbott started enacting 100 year laws or administrative orders that couldn’t be changed?

if abbott was in charge of an area including and surrounding a huge theme park and nothing else, i think people would probably be fine with it.  that's what we're talking about, right?  they gave disney their own jurisdiction and now they're trying to interfere with it.  disney was there a long time before desantis and it'll still be there when he's worm food. 

from what i saw, disney didn't get shitty with it until they got fucked with.  that's what happens.

Essentially it’s the equivalent of a player shittalking Michael Jordan in the NBA Finals. Why ever provoke an entity with that kind of power?

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11 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

This is worse than what Trump did to Ted Cruz, including trashing Ted's father and making fun of Heidi's looks and mental health issues.

That’s still my favorite track on the Trump Greatest Hits album.

42 minutes ago, South Austin said:

That’s still my favorite track on the Trump Greatest Hits album.

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The party of weird ideology and incompetence.  Just who you want with their finger on the nuke button.

13 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

The fact that he was out there acting like he'd risk legal repercussions for trying to help Trump avoid indictment while Trump is actively spending money trashing him makes him look like the lowest of the lowest boot lickers.

This is worse than what Trump did to Ted Cruz, including trashing Ted's father and making fun of Heidi's looks and mental health issues.

DeSantis should have been saying "I support President Trump's right to pay off porn stars and I support President Trump's right to have his day in court and I will not stand in the way of President Trump trying to clear himself."

The response from Trump would have been the same regardless of whether DeSantis defended him or took a cheap blow at him.

I disagree. He's doing the only thing that he can do. He has to thread the needle. He knows that he probably needs some of MAGA to win the primary, and he needs all of MAGA to win the general. MAGA doesn't respond to rational things like "He deserves his day in court." He has to say stupid shit like "No extradition from my state!"

DeSantis is praying that Trump's crimes are serious enough to allow him to win the primary (good fucking luck) without saying anything negative about Trump. Then, after that, he can use Trump as a martyr and talk about finishing his work, pardoning him, and ending these conservative witch hunts once and for all. (All while Trump is probably continuing to mock him relentlessly.)

Should be fun to watch.

The only path to the WH for Desantis is trump dead or behind bars. If he’s alive and campaigning he wins the nomination. At this point I’d say it’s 50-50 whether Desantis declares

12 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

Are you there, God? What the fuck is up with this guy?

More like "Are you there, God? It's me, the asshole"

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No gestapo in Tallahaso!

If there is not a chant of "Pud-ding cup! Pud-ding cup!" at his next unscripted appearance then where are we at in society?

To be fair, it's not a bad list.  Better array of classics than Texas is gonna end up with when these morons are through gutting libraries.  But the grades are all off by multiple years.  I went to an above average school but nothing to write home about, and their 12th graders are reading shit we read in 9th grade or in junior high.  

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Meatball making all the wrong moves early
 

also Asa Hutchinson coming out of the gate staking the anti Trump ground

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