May 27, 20223 yr I'm holding off on a new truck until they come out with the new Tacoma design, in 2024 most likely. But I was reading up on the Pro vs OR recently and it didn't sound like there were enough upgrades to justify $10k. It's mostly suspension upgrades on a system that was already very capable. You could likely upgrade an OR version to similar specs with after-market stuff for way less. Plus, I want a long bed and they don't offer that in the Pro. Also, until the supply chain issues are fully resolved, you will be paying a lot more than that $10k.
May 28, 20223 yr Yeah, an OR plus a 2.5” damper setup from KING/Fox/ICON/Radflo/OME/Toytec will be just as good or better.
May 30, 20223 yr I’m keeping my 99 4Runner SR5 Sport V6 4x4. It’s got about 165k on it. AC blows cold. Now a family heirloom. Everything works. I’ve replaced a radiator. Some front suspension parts. Everything else is maintenance. I use Lucas Oil additives in oil and fuel. The only bad thing on it is paint. Old house has 16 huge crepe myrtles that seeped all over it and my Acura and ate the paint.
May 30, 20223 yr There's a fucking nice 2003 V8 4Runner down here they will take $4000 for, I just can't deal with another gas guzzler. Head down to Cholula if you want a deal for your kid.
May 30, 20223 yr Author 1 hour ago, Texzilla58 said: I’m keeping my 99 4Runner SR5 Sport V6 4x4. It’s got about 165k on it. AC blows cold. Now a family heirloom. Everything works. I’ve replaced a radiator. Some front suspension parts. Everything else is maintenance. I use Lucas Oil additives in oil and fuel. The only bad thing on it is paint. Old house has 16 huge crepe myrtles that seeped all over it and my Acura and ate the paint. Is your’s an auto or standard? Does it have rear locking differential? Those a getting super expensive and desirable
May 30, 20223 yr I'm holding off on a new truck until they come out with the new Tacoma design, in 2024 most likely. But I was reading up on the Pro vs OR recently and it didn't sound like there were enough upgrades to justify $10k. It's mostly suspension upgrades on a system that was already very capable. You could likely upgrade an OR version to similar specs with after-market stuff for way less. Plus, I want a long bed and they don't offer that in the Pro. I had the long bed off-road Tacoma prior to my Bronco and the turning radius was horrifically bad. Parking it was comically difficult in tight parking lots. You just have to be that douche bag that backs in to every spot.
May 30, 20223 yr I really liked my 2010 and 2013 Tacos, but damn do I love this 2021 4runner. There are only a few things I wish were different. On the frivolous side of things, wireless CarPlay and wireless charging (like some of the recent Tacos have). And the other is it could use just a bit more power. Nothing ridiculous because I bought a 4runner expecting a 4runner, but it could use a little more kick in the pants.
May 30, 20223 yr Is your’s an auto or standard? Does it have rear locking differential? Those a getting super expensive and desirableIt’s an automatic. It’s been in 4WD maybe twice. I can’t recall on the rear diff. Ashamed to say it served most of its life as a station wagon for my wife, hauling crafts shit and taking dogs to the vet. That V6 drivetrain is so fucking good and reliable; I would love to fix it up in a few years for my 7 year old granddaughter. My biggest concern is simply age. The plastics are getting brittle. I had to replace the center dash fascia when a 2x4 slid forward into it and it just shattered. There is only one thing on the truck I hate: the back window down button on the remote. A slight touch in the pocket and the window rolls down, usually during a downpour.
June 22, 20223 yr I didn’t see this posted. What do y’all think of the 40th anniversary special edition 4runner? I dig it. https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-4runner-celebrates-historic-run-with-40th-anniversary-special-edition/
June 23, 20223 yr 16yr old son wants a Taco. Pricing them out, is.....fun. So I know the 3.5 is bulletproof, but what about the 2.7? I want him to be able to go to the ranch with me or his friends, have a small truck bed to move stuff around, and it's easier to drive/park than my Tundra. Is the 2.7 a dog for a HS driver and probably when he goes off to college? Looking used obviously, maybe around 60k-80k miles? Any more/less reliable than the 6 cylinder?
June 23, 20223 yr On 5/29/2022 at 11:07 PM, Patricio Swayze said: I really liked my 2010 and 2013 Tacos, but damn do I love this 2021 4runner. There are only a few things I wish were different. On the frivolous side of things, wireless CarPlay and wireless charging (like some of the recent Tacos have). And the other is it could use just a bit more power. Nothing ridiculous because I bought a 4runner expecting a 4runner, but it could use a little more kick in the pants. On those 2010-2015 yr Taco's, did they add any tech? They seem to be the same basic design YOY? Small infotainment screen. Rear camera. Anything else?
June 23, 20223 yr On those 2010-2015 yr Taco's, did they add any tech? They seem to be the same basic design YOY? Small infotainment screen. Rear camera. Anything else?Not much. Blue tooth but no apple CarPlay. As for a 4 banger, I wouldn’t do it. I haven’t driven a Taco with one, but my wife’s Equinox is complete dogshit and I won’t let her buy another 4 cylinder.
June 23, 20223 yr Just now, Patricio Swayze said: Not much. Blue tooth but no apple CarPlay. As for a 4 banger, I wouldn’t do it. I haven’t driven a Taco with one, but my wife’s Equinox is complete dogshit and I won’t let her buy another 4 cylinder. Just a weak powerplant or reliability issues? I do worry about his ability to accelerate in and out of problems on highway and steep grades (like Ranger Hill). Our place is past it so it's not an option to avoid.
June 23, 20223 yr Just a weak powerplant or reliability issues? I do worry about his ability to accelerate in and out of problems on highway and steep grades (like Ranger Hill). Our place is past it so it's not an option to avoid. Weak. I hate driving it around Houston. Especially trying to get on the freeway. Complete dog.
June 23, 20223 yr Just a weak powerplant or reliability issues? I do worry about his ability to accelerate in and out of problems on highway and steep grades (like Ranger Hill). Our place is past it so it's not an option to avoid. I mean, it would make it up Ranger Hill fine, but yeah they are pretty weak. I would not buy a Tacoma with a 4 cylinder. Well, not that 4 cylinder. The one in the Ranger is fine, for example, but it’s the main engine choice there.
June 23, 20223 yr Found a 2013 for under $24K with the tried/true 4.0 liter and around 80K miles, so will swing by this afternoon and see what it looks like.
June 23, 20223 yr While I’d love that 40th anniversary 4Runner, I’ll make do with my old buddy here. It’s now a family heirloom I’m hoping can be my granddaughter’s first ride in nine years. 99 SR5 Sport 3.4L V6 4WD. Only 169000 miles. Air blows cold. Paint sucks.
June 24, 20223 yr 11 hours ago, Texzilla58 said: While I’d love that 40th anniversary 4Runner, I’ll make do with my old buddy here. It’s now a family heirloom I’m hoping can be my granddaughter’s first ride in nine years. 99 SR5 Sport 3.4L V6 4WD. Only 169000 miles. Air blows cold. Paint sucks. Yeah - unfortunate that the green paint turned out to be that way. It was a gorgeous color when new. Front bumper puzzles me. Mine is 2001 but I thouhgt the only choices were painted or chrome. Your looks like it has a lower lip of something else
June 24, 20223 yr Yeah - unfortunate that the green paint turned out to be that way. It was a gorgeous color when new. Front bumper puzzles me. Mine is 2001 but I thouhgt the only choices were painted or chrome. Your looks like it has a lower lip of something elseI think that was the Sport trim that also got the silly hood scoop. The green paint was beautiful when I bought it as a certified preowned in 02. It has a pinstripe that has faded away that was a hot orange red that was perfect. You can still see a little touch. The paint was killed by crepe myrtle weep. Nefarious weeds those fucking things. Worse than fire ants, zebra mussels, tegu lizards, and feral cats. I might wrap it or paint it. The only real issue was the sunroof which developed a bad leak. I’ve spent hours and bucks trying to fix, finally I sealed it with FlexSeal rubber tape. It adds a certain hillbilly look to it if you look close.It’s the best vehicle I’ve ever owned in terms of doing what it’s supposed to do. It’s not fancy and my wife loves it so it ain’t going to a stranger.8
June 24, 20223 yr After looking again I think it is just the sun bleach of the lower lip that threw me off. Here's my 01 which has the same lip but slightly different color. It was very odd in 2000 when I bought the 2001. There were something like 3 or 4 different bumpers depending on the model of 4Runner. Full paint on limited, full paint on some sport models, or chrome, and options on fender flares. Bought mine specifically with the chrome bumper Edited June 24, 20223 yr by AUinHsv
June 24, 20223 yr After looking again I think it is just the sun bleach of the lower lip that threw me off. Here's my 01 which has the same lip but slightly different color. It was very odd in 2000 when I bought the 2001. There were something like 3 or 4 different bumpers depending on the model of 4Runner. Full paint on limited, full paint on some sport models, or chrome, and options on fender flares. Bought mine specifically with the chrome bumper Great looking 4Runner! Envious as that gray or the silver was what I wanted and I questioned the green a bit but it was too good a deal on a low mileage truck.
June 24, 20223 yr You can see the genes of the current 4 runner all the way back two decades. Like most of what the do, they slowly perfect them. IMO the current Gen 4 Runner is one of the best looking SUVs of all time.
June 24, 20223 yr On 6/23/2022 at 6:35 AM, Anton Chigurh said: The one in the Ranger is fine, for example, but it’s the main engine choice there. My understanding is it's the only engine choice there.
June 24, 20223 yr Just over 21,000 miles on my 10 month old 4Runner [emoji2359][emoji2371]. Looking forward to getting some new shoes for it. About to start a new gig. Might use some of my signing bonus towards suspension/lift (very modest one, no truck nuts on this ride).
June 24, 20223 yr My understanding is it's the only engine choice there.You right. I could’ve worded that better.
June 25, 20223 yr Author Changing an alternator in the front yard when it’s 104 isn’t the most fun … but can’t complain about getting 225,000 miles and 20 yrs off the original
June 25, 20223 yr 14 hours ago, Texzilla58 said: Great looking 4Runner! Envious as that gray or the silver was what I wanted and I questioned the green a bit but it was too good a deal on a low mileage truck. I really liked the color when I first saw it. Called Thundercloud. Only sold it in 01 and 02. For some reason people didn;t buy it as much as expected
June 25, 20223 yr 11 hours ago, Alex Karev said: Nice build. I'm nobody's thread police, but just FYI, there's a dedicated Jeep thread here:
June 25, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, utee94 said: Nice build. I'm nobody's thread police, but just FYI, there's a dedicated Jeep thread here: ok. sorry. did not
June 25, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, blacklab said: I like that the first pic in the jeep thread is an LJ. Wrong neighborhood motherfucker. Take it to the Jeep thread.
June 26, 20223 yr 14 hours ago, Anton Chigurh said: I’m just surprised the Jeep even made it to this thread without breaking down. Former CJ owner
June 27, 20223 yr I really liked the color when I first saw it. Called Thundercloud. Only sold it in 01 and 02. For some reason people didn;t buy it as much as expectedI was selling Toyotas in 86 and have been a big fan since. As much as I love their drivetrains they have had issues, until recently, with a lot of their color selections. That Thundercloud was a great color that some bean counter thought was too expensive or PPG raised the price. I think they only did that green of mine a few years too. I had a 97 4Runner in bright red that I don’t think they used after that.
July 7, 20223 yr I had just totaled my 4runner and messed up my back when I started looking for FJ's. Because of my back didn't really look too hard under it. I noticed a little rust but it didn't seem too bad. Fast forward to a few weeks ago when I went under it to install a plug for the trailer. It was way worse than I remember it being when I got it. A few trips to the beach probably didn't help. So I took it over to the body shop around the corner. His advice: paint it and sell it. Being that I'm not completely unethical I'm not planning on doing that, what would you do? Kinda leaning towards just driving it till the wheels literally fall off and replacing parts as they go. Looks like anywhere from 20-35k for a nice one, and I'm guessing I'll get 10-15 for this one, so it seems it would be cheaper to just sandblast/paint the bottom and replace the suspension parts as needed than spring for a newer/less rusty one.
July 7, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, blacklab said: I had just totaled my 4runner and messed up my back when I started looking for FJ's. Because of my back didn't really look too hard under it. I noticed a little rust but it didn't seem too bad. Fast forward to a few weeks ago when I went under it to install a plug for the trailer. It was way worse than I remember it being when I got it. A few trips to the beach probably didn't help. So I took it over to the body shop around the corner. His advice: paint it and sell it. Being that I'm not completely unethical I'm not planning on doing that, what would you do? Kinda leaning towards just driving it till the wheels literally fall off and replacing parts as they go. Looks like anywhere from 20-35k for a nice one, and I'm guessing I'll get 10-15 for this one, so it seems it would be cheaper to just sandblast/paint the bottom and replace the suspension parts as needed than spring for a newer/less rusty one. How bad is the rust? That sounds structural almost, which would be really surprising for anything not out of the north. I vote (if not structural) wire wheel up the frame and put the 3M frame coat on it. I’ve had really good luck with that stuff. I use it to treat boat axles before they are ever dunked. I’ve had them look new for a decade. 3M is quality stuff.
July 7, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, blacklab said: I had just totaled my 4runner and messed up my back when I started looking for FJ's. Because of my back didn't really look too hard under it. I noticed a little rust but it didn't seem too bad. Fast forward to a few weeks ago when I went under it to install a plug for the trailer. It was way worse than I remember it being when I got it. A few trips to the beach probably didn't help. So I took it over to the body shop around the corner. His advice: paint it and sell it. Being that I'm not completely unethical I'm not planning on doing that, what would you do? Kinda leaning towards just driving it till the wheels literally fall off and replacing parts as they go. Looks like anywhere from 20-35k for a nice one, and I'm guessing I'll get 10-15 for this one, so it seems it would be cheaper to just sandblast/paint the bottom and replace the suspension parts as needed than spring for a newer/less rusty one. Make sure you don’t have a recall open on it. Toyota was replacing frames at one time for rust issues. I think it was on tacomas though.
July 7, 20223 yr 12 hours ago, fattyflattie said: How bad is the rust? That sounds structural almost, which would be really surprising for anything not out of the north. I vote (if not structural) wire wheel up the frame and put the 3M frame coat on it. I’ve had really good luck with that stuff. I use it to treat boat axles before they are ever dunked. I’ve had them look new for a decade. 3M is quality stuff. It was originally from Canada. Something I found out not to long ago when I found a registration hidden in the sun visor. It was painted not too long before I got it. Big chunks of paint/rust are falling off the frame and other parts. There's a guy in the fj forums that has one in a similar condition. He's sandblasting and painting and it seems like it's working for him. There's also a oil based under spray that's supposed to be good but the closest place that does it is in Arkansas. 12 hours ago, Eugene11 said: Make sure you don’t have a recall open on it. Toyota was replacing frames at one time for rust issues. I think it was on tacomas though. That closed a year or so ago and was tacomas, tundras and sequoias
July 7, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, blacklab said: It was originally from Canada. Something I found out not to long ago when I found a registration hidden in the sun visor. It was painted not too long before I got it. Big chunks of paint/rust are falling off the frame and other parts. There's a guy in the fj forums that has one in a similar condition. He's sandblasting and painting and it seems like it's working for him. There's also a oil based under spray that's supposed to be good but the closest place that does it is in Arkansas. Normally a frame would have to get very thin to worry me on a non-heavy haul daily driver. But FJ’s already had frame issues iirc. I’d just continue to beat up the FJ forums and make your best call. I’d still check out that 3M stuff. It’s a rubbery compound as has been money for me on protection from saltwater on steel.
July 7, 20223 yr 20 hours ago, blacklab said: I had just totaled my 4runner and messed up my back when I started looking for FJ's. Because of my back didn't really look too hard under it. I noticed a little rust but it didn't seem too bad. Fast forward to a few weeks ago when I went under it to install a plug for the trailer. It was way worse than I remember it being when I got it. A few trips to the beach probably didn't help. So I took it over to the body shop around the corner. His advice: paint it and sell it. Being that I'm not completely unethical I'm not planning on doing that, what would you do? Kinda leaning towards just driving it till the wheels literally fall off and replacing parts as they go. Looks like anywhere from 20-35k for a nice one, and I'm guessing I'll get 10-15 for this one, so it seems it would be cheaper to just sandblast/paint the bottom and replace the suspension parts as needed than spring for a newer/less rusty one. don't paint it, but sell it and buy something else. fighting rust is a huge PITA
July 7, 20223 yr Thinking of buying an aftermarket fiberglass hardtop for my Bronco. Am I crazy for liking the white? I kinda dig the retro look. None of my family likes the white. It’s a big nut…$6K vs $900 for the OEM plastic top but it seems much better built.
July 7, 20223 yr I think the white looks good, definitely retro. My buddy with a Bronco, did some retro pinstriping, like this. It looks great:
July 17, 20223 yr Not mine, but saw this last month... Everytime I see one I hear in my head“Randall Floyd!…”
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